Where is the dashlight fuse/dashlight bulb itself?

Salue · 01-11-2003, 12:27 PM

Hey everybody,
my dashlight went out, so did my heater light and my shifter light(P R N D L )..they flickered and then just went out. I don't have the little door panel that covers the fuses on the driver's side kick panel so I'm not sure which fuse it is. Also, all the fuses down there aren't burnt out. I've also checked the fuses in the engine bay and behind the glove box. Is there a relay or fuse that connects all those lights? Also, are those lights wired in sync(if the dash light goes out, the power to the heater and shifter lights get no power)? I'm just wondering cuz I just replaced the heater lights a couple of days ago and just checked it and it looks ok. So, either the fuse or relay is out or somehow the dash or shifter light is out and causing the others to get no power as well(??) Hope somebody can help me.

Thanks,

Salue

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PhxTRDRunner · 01-11-2003, 12:54 PM

Are you getting no dash lights from anything? I.E. windows switches, gauges or heater/ac controls? And, if that is true, are you getting parking lights? How about headlights?

Give me some more info and I'll see if we can hunt down your problem.

Salue · 01-11-2003, 01:06 PM

You are correct in no dash lights from anything. But, I am getting power to the parking and headlights.

Salue

***Corey*** · 01-11-2003, 01:07 PM

Here is the circuit for the 2nd gen dash, and it shows a 10 guage fuse.
http://www.pnw4runners.net/tech/combo_meter.jpg

Underhood fuses.
http://www.pnw4runners.net/tech/underhood_fusebox.jpg

OK, just went out too the rig and scanned in my fusebox door.
http://www.pnw4runners.net/tech/inca...en_fusebox.jpg

Indeed it does have a 10 amp fuse for the guages.
Check that fuse again to make sure it's not blown.

Salue · 01-11-2003, 01:22 PM

Hey Corey,
thanks for scanning that for me, unfortunately my fuse is not blown. I even swapped it out for another 10A fuse and it's still out. Any ideas?

Could it be that if the Dash light is out, the other lights don't come on either?

Salue

***Corey*** · 01-11-2003, 01:38 PM

No problemo scanning it.
I have a dash light out in the far right corner of the cluster, but all of my other dash lights, heater light, and shifter lights all work.

It's gotta be something else.
Maybe a loose wire that comes off of that fuse upto the gauge cluster

Also, I have found out with electronical equipment, smacking it around can do wonders.

My TV set is from '89, and the tube is just now going out.
It will pop and go blank, and I'll hop up and smack the side and all is well

Maybe try smacking the top of your dash and see if it comes on.
Can't hurt anything by doing that.
If it comes on, something is loose somewhere.

Salue · 01-11-2003, 02:47 PM

I'm going crazy trying to figure this thing out. I currently have the whole dash apart including the guage cluster. I don't even know where the bulb(if there is one) would be on the cluster. This is so frustrating..

Salue

Cebby · 01-11-2003, 03:09 PM

Are these working? Do you have an aftermarket alarm?

Cebby · 01-11-2003, 03:21 PM

There is a ground wire for most of this stuff in the left kick panel. White with a black stripe. From my wiring diagram, it looks like it is beside the factory speaker. Check to make sure it is making contact or not cut.

Also, was the guage fuse tight? If it was loose, maybe it isn't making good contact. That would make it more intermittent though.

That circuit does go through an integration relay. Looks like it is on the back of the fuse block in the kick panel. I have no idea how to test it though...

PhxTRDRunner · 01-11-2003, 05:15 PM

OK, what you need to do next is get a multimeter out or even a test light. Turn your parking lights on, and see if there is power to the fuse(s) that you believe and that Corey is telling you that make your gauges/ect. light up. IF that does not have power, you can then backtrack to the relay for the parking lights (which I would highly doubt went bad, but it can happen). If you DO have power on both sides of that fuse, then you need to then move to checking power at one of the bults itself - an easy one to check is the one at the cig. lighter. The "green" wire is the parking lights wire and should read 12v + positive or light up your test light when the parking lights are on.

Once you have checked that stuff, let me know what you find. If you are really stuck maybe we can do some telephone support and find your problem.

Salue · 01-11-2003, 06:23 PM

Ralph,
I'll have to check on it tomorrow as I don't have a garage to work on it and it's too dark outside. I shall post tomorrow.

Salue

DH6twinotter · 01-11-2003, 07:30 PM

I had a similar problem with my clock/sig lighter/ash tray light a while back. It kept on flickering on and off and then finally didn't work anymore. Non of my fuses were blown either. Somebody here suggested bending the contacts on the fuse so it makes better connection in the fuse block. You could give that a try. It worked great for me.

Have fun.

DH6twinotter

Salue · 01-12-2003, 02:15 PM

Alright,
I've checked with my old multi-meter and I am getting power to the fuse on both ends. I then checked for power at the little bulb for the heater controls(since I had that apart). Well, it is getting power there when I check with the volt-meter. When I ground the meter and stick the positive end into the hole where the bulb should be, it shows no power until I turn the the parking light on it shows power. But when I put the actual bulb in, it doesn't light up. So, does this mean that something is not grounded? Last Tuesday I just replaced the heater light bulb with one that's supposed to be brighter but is the same wattage..That couldn't have done anything could it? Also when I installed my new CD player last week, I noticed a sinlge wire that didn't plug into anything(It was like that when I took out the stock cd player). I don't think it goes anywhere but I just checked it too and power only goes to it when I turn the parking lights on. This wire is white with a green stripe and has a blue or green terminal(?).Now, I don't believe this has anything to do with it since that plug has never been plugged in and the lights all worked fine until last Friday.

Cebby, you wouldn't have a diagram of where the ground wire you're talking about is would you?

Ralph, or anyone else....Where do I go from here?

Salue

Cebby · 01-12-2003, 02:32 PM

I looked in my wiring diagram last night and the best I could do was a general area. The drawing isn't very clear. I'll give it another look tonight... With the fuse not bad, and you are getting power, I'm kinda stumped. I don't think you'd see 12V if it wasn't grounded, unless your meter was completing the circuit (did you use a test light or a digital meter). You might have a bad socket shorting the works, but that would blow the fuse. The ground is white with black. Drop the bottom of your dash and pull the speaker to see if there is a ground wire attached to the body behind the speaker... Trace the wire to see if was cut somehow.

PhxTRDRunner · 01-12-2003, 02:41 PM

Ok, I believe I know what is wrong. Make absolute sure that you did not ground your new CD player to the parking light wire behind the radio, or the dimmer wire!!!! They both will test as a ground when the parking lights are not on!! I would even just unplug the cd player until you get your parking lights back

. Ok, once you have done that, and still no lights you need to check your dimmer switch. Sounds like you may have shorted it out (possibly by the cd player install) as it is where the ground for the dash lights comes from. As a test you could unplug the dimmer switch, test again to make sure the "green" wire has 12v with the parking lights at any bulb - then put a ground to the other side of the light (white/black stripe) wire and you will then have dash lights. You just need to figure out what has failed as far as why the dimmer is not giving you a ground signal. My honest guess is the CD player is taking your ground path away - I've seen it done MANY times, and had to correct it for many a client.

Let me know what you find after these tests...

I'm going out to play with my toys in the garage so I'll be back in a little bit to check on your progress.

Salue · 01-12-2003, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cebby
I don't think you'd see 12V if it wasn't grounded, unless your meter was completing the circuit (did you use a test light or a digital meter).

I'm thinking my meter is completing the circuit, but I don't know. All this electrical stuff scares me. I'm not using a test light, but I don't think mine is a digital meter either, I'm not sure. It just has two probes and has a guage thats show the voltage. The thing is it doesn't even have a switch for 12V but it has other Voltage settings(9v). It just has a switch to turn to DC and the little guage moves up to show power. Hope this makes sense.

Salue

Cebby · 01-12-2003, 02:48 PM

I forgot all that stuff was connected. If the dimmer isn't plugged in will that give the same problem?

Cebby · 01-12-2003, 02:50 PM

Meters are supposed to isolate the circuit so they don't complete it, so your meter shouldn't be completing the circuit...:confused:

We'll track it down...

PhxTRDRunner · 01-12-2003, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cebby
I forgot all that stuff was connected. If the dimmer isn't plugged in will that give the same problem?

Very well could.

Cebby · 01-12-2003, 02:55 PM

Come to think of it, I think I forgot to hook mine up on my 87 Celica GTS and racked my brain about it. That was a long time ago (man I feel old)

Salue · 01-12-2003, 02:59 PM

Ralph,
I don't believe I ground the cd player to the parking light wire because I used the wiring harness adapter. So, I didn't have to splice or ground to anything. I just connected the cd player's harness to the Toyota harness adapter so that it would be plug and play. I'm going to go check the dimmer switch now before it gets dark....Dang it!! I just put the whole dash back together, now it's coming off again. I'm getting a little too familiar with this dash

. Will report back in a little bit.

Salue

Also, if I ground the cd to parking lights when I installed it wouldn't it have gone out since then. cuz it just went out this past Friday, and the CD was intalled last weekend....I don't know, just curious.

PhxTRDRunner · 01-12-2003, 03:11 PM

Well, that all depends how much you drive at night

The radio would be unaffected until the first time you had both the radio and parking lights on at the same time!

Salue · 01-12-2003, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PhxTRDRunner
Ok, once you have done that, and still no lights you need to check your dimmer switch. Sounds like you may have shorted it out (possibly by the cd player install) as it is where the ground for the dash lights comes from. As a test you could unplug the dimmer switch, test again to make sure the "green" wire has 12v with the parking lights at any bulb - then put a ground to the other side of the light (white/black stripe) wire and you will then have dash lights. You just need to figure out what has failed as far as why the dimmer is not giving you a ground signal. My honest guess is the CD player is taking your ground path away - I've seen it done MANY times, and had to correct it for many a client.

Okay,
I disconnected the cd player completely and still no dash lights. I'm a little confused on what you want me to do. This is what I have done so far. First of all, I unplugged the dimmer switch and there are three wires back there. There's a green wire, a white wire w/black stripe and a white wire w/green stripe. So I stuck the positive prong from the meter into the green wire section and then stuck the negative into the white w/black wire. Turned the parking light on and it shows power. Then I left the negative prong in the dimmer switch and took the positive prong and just stuck it into the plug of the heater light and it shows power. I also tried leaving the negative prong and taking the positive prong and putting it into the white w/green wire of the dimmer switch and it gets power when I turn the parking light on. I also tried the cig lighter wires...There are 4 wires though, but they seem to split out of the same connector(if that makes sense). I plug my + prong into the green wire section and plug the - into the white w/black wire section. It gets power when I turn the parking lights on, but that little green light that surrounds the cig lighter doesn't come on though. But, the cig lighter works.......

So now what?

Salue

I'm not sure if I did what you said to do, a little confused.

PhxTRDRunner · 01-12-2003, 05:46 PM

Ok, so if I understand you correctly then you are showing both power and ground at the light at the cig. lighter. You can verify this by putting your ground prong into the white/black wire and your power (red) prong into the green wire. IF this shows power, the bulb is burnt out...and it is POSSIBLE that you burnt all the dash lights out (again possibly from the cd player install). Try going to your local autoparts store and getting at least one replacement bulb, so you can replace one and see if it lights up.

Eliminate the dimmer switch from your testing:

You still have not tried giving that circuit. ground signal manually. You can accomplish this by unplugging the dimmer switch - then connect a wire to ground (even just touch it by alligator clip) and the other end to the exposed white/black wire - then see if when you turn on the parking lights they turn on. This will eliminate the dimmer from the circuit and just make it a power/ground connection to make the lights light up.

Salue · 01-12-2003, 07:35 PM

I unplugged the dimmer switch, used one of my prongs that I unplugged from the meter and plugged one end into the white w/black wire and the other end onto a ground. I turned the parking lights on and....No dash lights. Now as far as getting a new bulb for the cig lighter or dash light, I don't even know where the bulbs are located. Does the cig lighter have a bulb, because it just hast that green lens that lights up around the lighter...Don't know, will have to check that in the morning. Also, where would the dash light bulb be? I've taken the whole guage console out but haven't taken the actual guage console apart(understand?). And, I'm also wondering about the heater light bulb that I bought a few days ago. The guy told me the one I got is a brighter bulb, but it's the same wattage as the original. They came in 2 pairs, so I took out the one I put in the other day and stuck in the 2nd new one and there's still no light there. So i'm not sure if there's power there. From my testing, it seems like it's getting power. But then the new bulb not lighting up doesn't make sense. I can't get to the back of this bulbs' harness, so when I checked it, I just grounded my - prong and just stuck the + prong into the actual socket that the bulb would go into. I guess this saga will have to continue tomorrow as it's too dark and I don't have a car hole to work in.

Thanks for everybody's input and patience. All this electrical stuff frightens me so I was thinking of having somebody look at it, but that's the last thing I want to do. I think we're headed in the right direction though.

Salue

01-11-2003, 12:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
PhxTRDRunner Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 695	Are you getting no dash lights from anything? I.E. windows switches, gauges or heater/ac controls? And, if that is true, are you getting parking lights? How about headlights? Give me some more info and I'll see if we can hunt down your problem. __________________ '00 4runner Sold '94 Supra 6spd tt '05 Tacoma Double Cab 4wd TRD Offroad

01-11-2003, 01:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
Salue Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 309	You are correct in no dash lights from anything. But, I am getting power to the parking and headlights. Salue __________________ '99 4runner SC '97 Land Cruiser '87 turbo 4runner...Sold '91 4runner...Sold '94 4runner...Sold

01-11-2003, 01:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,071	Here is the circuit for the 2nd gen dash, and it shows a 10 guage fuse. http://www.pnw4runners.net/tech/combo_meter.jpg Underhood fuses. http://www.pnw4runners.net/tech/underhood_fusebox.jpg OK, just went out too the rig and scanned in my fusebox door. http://www.pnw4runners.net/tech/inca...en_fusebox.jpg Indeed it does have a 10 amp fuse for the guages. Check that fuse again to make sure it's not blown. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser Built for 4wheelin', expedition, camping, and overlanding use PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse Part II ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge Blog About Roof Top Tents ☺ FJC Magazines Online Review Of My Tent ☺ 2009 Specialized Rockhopper Pro

01-11-2003, 01:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
Salue Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 309	Hey Corey, thanks for scanning that for me, unfortunately my fuse is not blown. I even swapped it out for another 10A fuse and it's still out. Any ideas? Could it be that if the Dash light is out, the other lights don't come on either? Salue __________________ '99 4runner SC '97 Land Cruiser '87 turbo 4runner...Sold '91 4runner...Sold '94 4runner...Sold

01-11-2003, 02:47 PM	#7 (permalink)
Salue Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 309	I'm going crazy trying to figure this thing out. I currently have the whole dash apart including the guage cluster. I don't even know where the bulb(if there is one) would be on the cluster. This is so frustrating.. Salue __________________ '99 4runner SC '97 Land Cruiser '87 turbo 4runner...Sold '91 4runner...Sold '94 4runner...Sold

01-11-2003, 01:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,071	No problemo scanning it. I have a dash light out in the far right corner of the cluster, but all of my other dash lights, heater light, and shifter lights all work. It's gotta be something else. Maybe a loose wire that comes off of that fuse upto the gauge cluster Also, I have found out with electronical equipment, smacking it around can do wonders. My TV set is from '89, and the tube is just now going out. It will pop and go blank, and I'll hop up and smack the side and all is well Maybe try smacking the top of your dash and see if it comes on. Can't hurt anything by doing that. If it comes on, something is loose somewhere.

01-11-2003, 03:09 PM	#8 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	Radio/HVAC working? Are these working? Do you have an aftermarket alarm? __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR

01-11-2003, 03:21 PM	#9 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	Ground Wire There is a ground wire for most of this stuff in the left kick panel. White with a black stripe. From my wiring diagram, it looks like it is beside the factory speaker. Check to make sure it is making contact or not cut. Also, was the guage fuse tight? If it was loose, maybe it isn't making good contact. That would make it more intermittent though. That circuit does go through an integration relay. Looks like it is on the back of the fuse block in the kick panel. I have no idea how to test it though... __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR

01-11-2003, 05:15 PM	#10 (permalink)
PhxTRDRunner Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 695	OK, what you need to do next is get a multimeter out or even a test light. Turn your parking lights on, and see if there is power to the fuse(s) that you believe and that Corey is telling you that make your gauges/ect. light up. IF that does not have power, you can then backtrack to the relay for the parking lights (which I would highly doubt went bad, but it can happen). If you DO have power on both sides of that fuse, then you need to then move to checking power at one of the bults itself - an easy one to check is the one at the cig. lighter. The "green" wire is the parking lights wire and should read 12v + positive or light up your test light when the parking lights are on. Once you have checked that stuff, let me know what you find. If you are really stuck maybe we can do some telephone support and find your problem. __________________ '00 4runner Sold '94 Supra 6spd tt '05 Tacoma Double Cab 4wd TRD Offroad

01-11-2003, 06:23 PM	#11 (permalink)
Salue Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 309	Ralph, I'll have to check on it tomorrow as I don't have a garage to work on it and it's too dark outside. I shall post tomorrow. Salue __________________ '99 4runner SC '97 Land Cruiser '87 turbo 4runner...Sold '91 4runner...Sold '94 4runner...Sold

01-11-2003, 07:30 PM	#12 (permalink)
DH6twinotter Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Charlotte, North Carolina Posts: 1,676	I had a similar problem with my clock/sig lighter/ash tray light a while back. It kept on flickering on and off and then finally didn't work anymore. Non of my fuses were blown either. Somebody here suggested bending the contacts on the fuse so it makes better connection in the fuse block. You could give that a try. It worked great for me. Have fun. DH6twinotter __________________ ------------------------------------------------ 1990 4Runner: SR5, 2wd, 3.90 rear, 3VZ-E, auto. 15x8 MT classic II rims, 31x10.50 Bridgestone Desert Duellers ($50!), Cobra CB, 3' firestick Planned stuff: Pre-runner light bar with Hella 500s, small lift Stuff I'd do if I went crazy: SAS, 7mgte or 1UZ swap, and as much offroad goodies as $$ will allow.

01-12-2003, 02:15 PM	#13 (permalink)
Salue Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 309	Alright, I've checked with my old multi-meter and I am getting power to the fuse on both ends. I then checked for power at the little bulb for the heater controls(since I had that apart). Well, it is getting power there when I check with the volt-meter. When I ground the meter and stick the positive end into the hole where the bulb should be, it shows no power until I turn the the parking light on it shows power. But when I put the actual bulb in, it doesn't light up. So, does this mean that something is not grounded? Last Tuesday I just replaced the heater light bulb with one that's supposed to be brighter but is the same wattage..That couldn't have done anything could it? Also when I installed my new CD player last week, I noticed a sinlge wire that didn't plug into anything(It was like that when I took out the stock cd player). I don't think it goes anywhere but I just checked it too and power only goes to it when I turn the parking lights on. This wire is white with a green stripe and has a blue or green terminal(?).Now, I don't believe this has anything to do with it since that plug has never been plugged in and the lights all worked fine until last Friday. Cebby, you wouldn't have a diagram of where the ground wire you're talking about is would you? Ralph, or anyone else....Where do I go from here? Salue __________________ '99 4runner SC '97 Land Cruiser '87 turbo 4runner...Sold '91 4runner...Sold '94 4runner...Sold

01-12-2003, 02:32 PM	#14 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	Ground Point I looked in my wiring diagram last night and the best I could do was a general area. The drawing isn't very clear. I'll give it another look tonight... With the fuse not bad, and you are getting power, I'm kinda stumped. I don't think you'd see 12V if it wasn't grounded, unless your meter was completing the circuit (did you use a test light or a digital meter). You might have a bad socket shorting the works, but that would blow the fuse. The ground is white with black. Drop the bottom of your dash and pull the speaker to see if there is a ground wire attached to the body behind the speaker... Trace the wire to see if was cut somehow. __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR

01-12-2003, 02:41 PM	#15 (permalink)
PhxTRDRunner Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 695	Ok, I believe I know what is wrong. Make absolute sure that you did not ground your new CD player to the parking light wire behind the radio, or the dimmer wire!!!! They both will test as a ground when the parking lights are not on!! I would even just unplug the cd player until you get your parking lights back . Ok, once you have done that, and still no lights you need to check your dimmer switch. Sounds like you may have shorted it out (possibly by the cd player install) as it is where the ground for the dash lights comes from. As a test you could unplug the dimmer switch, test again to make sure the "green" wire has 12v with the parking lights at any bulb - then put a ground to the other side of the light (white/black stripe) wire and you will then have dash lights. You just need to figure out what has failed as far as why the dimmer is not giving you a ground signal. My honest guess is the CD player is taking your ground path away - I've seen it done MANY times, and had to correct it for many a client. Let me know what you find after these tests... I'm going out to play with my toys in the garage so I'll be back in a little bit to check on your progress. __________________ '00 4runner Sold '94 Supra 6spd tt '05 Tacoma Double Cab 4wd TRD Offroad

01-12-2003, 02:48 PM	#17 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	Good call I forgot all that stuff was connected. If the dimmer isn't plugged in will that give the same problem? __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR

01-12-2003, 02:50 PM	#18 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	Meters are supposed to isolate the circuit so they don't complete it, so your meter shouldn't be completing the circuit...:confused: We'll track it down... __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR

01-12-2003, 02:55 PM	#20 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	Hmmmm Come to think of it, I think I forgot to hook mine up on my 87 Celica GTS and racked my brain about it. That was a long time ago (man I feel old) __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR

01-12-2003, 02:59 PM	#21 (permalink)
Salue Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 309	Ralph, I don't believe I ground the cd player to the parking light wire because I used the wiring harness adapter. So, I didn't have to splice or ground to anything. I just connected the cd player's harness to the Toyota harness adapter so that it would be plug and play. I'm going to go check the dimmer switch now before it gets dark....Dang it!! I just put the whole dash back together, now it's coming off again. I'm getting a little too familiar with this dash . Will report back in a little bit. Salue Also, if I ground the cd to parking lights when I installed it wouldn't it have gone out since then. cuz it just went out this past Friday, and the CD was intalled last weekend....I don't know, just curious. __________________ '99 4runner SC '97 Land Cruiser '87 turbo 4runner...Sold '91 4runner...Sold '94 4runner...Sold

01-12-2003, 03:11 PM	#22 (permalink)
PhxTRDRunner Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 695	Well, that all depends how much you drive at night The radio would be unaffected until the first time you had both the radio and parking lights on at the same time! __________________ '00 4runner Sold '94 Supra 6spd tt '05 Tacoma Double Cab 4wd TRD Offroad

01-12-2003, 05:46 PM	#24 (permalink)
PhxTRDRunner Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 695	Ok, so if I understand you correctly then you are showing both power and ground at the light at the cig. lighter. You can verify this by putting your ground prong into the white/black wire and your power (red) prong into the green wire. IF this shows power, the bulb is burnt out...and it is POSSIBLE that you burnt all the dash lights out (again possibly from the cd player install). Try going to your local autoparts store and getting at least one replacement bulb, so you can replace one and see if it lights up. Eliminate the dimmer switch from your testing: You still have not tried giving that circuit. ground signal manually. You can accomplish this by unplugging the dimmer switch - then connect a wire to ground (even just touch it by alligator clip) and the other end to the exposed white/black wire - then see if when you turn on the parking lights they turn on. This will eliminate the dimmer from the circuit and just make it a power/ground connection to make the lights light up. __________________ '00 4runner Sold '94 Supra 6spd tt '05 Tacoma Double Cab 4wd TRD Offroad

01-12-2003, 07:35 PM	#25 (permalink)
Salue Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 309	I unplugged the dimmer switch, used one of my prongs that I unplugged from the meter and plugged one end into the white w/black wire and the other end onto a ground. I turned the parking lights on and....No dash lights. Now as far as getting a new bulb for the cig lighter or dash light, I don't even know where the bulbs are located. Does the cig lighter have a bulb, because it just hast that green lens that lights up around the lighter...Don't know, will have to check that in the morning. Also, where would the dash light bulb be? I've taken the whole guage console out but haven't taken the actual guage console apart(understand?). And, I'm also wondering about the heater light bulb that I bought a few days ago. The guy told me the one I got is a brighter bulb, but it's the same wattage as the original. They came in 2 pairs, so I took out the one I put in the other day and stuck in the 2nd new one and there's still no light there. So i'm not sure if there's power there. From my testing, it seems like it's getting power. But then the new bulb not lighting up doesn't make sense. I can't get to the back of this bulbs' harness, so when I checked it, I just grounded my - prong and just stuck the + prong into the actual socket that the bulb would go into. I guess this saga will have to continue tomorrow as it's too dark and I don't have a car hole to work in. Thanks for everybody's input and patience. All this electrical stuff frightens me so I was thinking of having somebody look at it, but that's the last thing I want to do. I think we're headed in the right direction though. Salue __________________ '99 4runner SC '97 Land Cruiser '87 turbo 4runner...Sold '91 4runner...Sold '94 4runner...Sold

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