needayota

hey all i just got a 86 runner, but havent driven it due to no insurance. its been raining alot here lately and i finally got sometime to clean it up nice. i pull the rubber floormats out and see rust colored WET carpets on the driver side and just wet on the pass. side. the wierd thing is that the rubber mats were dry as a bone. the drivers side floor has a little rust in spots. the seats werent soaked at all just under the mats. i was wondering where the water is coming from?

are yotas notorious for leaking in maysterious places like that???


thanks all

Tacoma Dude

There are some guys who have that kind of a problem with their MODIFIED trucks because they have to poke through the rubber grommet to get electronics through the firewall. Could it be your grommets are not sealing as well as they should?

Only thing I can think of....

Try looking around and seeing if you can find a loose fitting or old deteriorating rubber - maybe your rig is modified too? In either case, once you find it - if it's not replaceable or too pricey/difficult, I think a liberal amount of silicone sealant would help you out

Krash

The only thing I can think of that wasn't mentioned by tacoma dood is a heater core leak. But the rust color throws that off unless the coolant is that toyota red coolant. Just figured I would add another thing to check. I would pull up the carpet and try to get a better guess on the color of the liquid. I know I could pull up my carpet and it would be green coolant underneath.

foxtrapper

Leaks around the windshield are not rare. All that trim holds gunk, which holds water, which promotes rust. Once it's holed, you get nice wet carpeting. So that's where I'd be looking.

needayota

beeeee aaaaaaaa eutiful!

not only do i find out this doushbag sold me a bhg junker that was in "great shape, drives great" but now i have a small rusted hole in the driverside and possibly in the window seal. i sat in the car while it was raining and it was leaking through the window seal. o well i guess i can restore it.

flecker

Aw, thats nothin.... I have seen way worse. And yes you can re-build him... better - faster- stronger! (bionic man theme playing)

Plays_with_Toys

What else is wrong with it that you think it a junker?

Tacoma Dude

Regardless of whether or not it's an easy fix - you don't go telling people that a vehicle is in "great shape" if you're getting wet everytime it rains!

That sucks man! FORTUNATELY, it sounds like an easy fix so you won't have to sweat it much

needayota

well....... the way i really look at it is like this......

i believe you build a bond (cheesy i know) when "saving a vehicles life" so to speak

the 2 major things it could use right now are a new head gasket (possibly rebuild, but bhg is very miniscule) and a paint job


if i use rust converter on most of the rust spots then paint over it with herculiner (a roll on bed liner) will it be fine???

flecker

Hey, it's not s junker it just needs attention! Fix the rust and the leak, then diagnose the engine and enjoy it The rust if it's not too bad could use some sanding petrol jelly and a good paint or roll on cover... the leak is weather sealant... the engine, well If its a head gasket you could do it in a day, just use new head studs when you get to it

needayota

do in a day???????


really? dont you need to mill the head and block and stuff like that???

plus i have no idea what im doing

flecker

You know what.... nevermind, just take it to have it done for you And yes, if you are mechanicaly inclined it could easily be done in a day. If you are going to have the head re-worked, maybe 2 days.

cabbage

Hey needayota, are the back seat carpets wet too? I had a leak from the top, it dripped whenever it rained. Took the top off(easier to take off with another person), cleaned the rubber that keeps the water out, wiped it with a little oil, put the top back up and no more leaks!

needayota

no just the fronts but im seriously thinking it is the windshield seals. so no biggie just get all new stuff and its all good.

see i really want to learn alot about the engine but im not the most mechanically inclined person and time is a big issue.

the place im checkin out estimated me at 1400 for a new headgasket, machined head and valve job, and a new timing chain


is that about the right price??? or no

flecker

Sounds a little high to me... a timing chain is about 3-350, head work and valves about 3-500 pending on whats done and maybe another 250-300 for the gasket materials ie; new head bolts, head gasket, timing chain cover gasket, timing chain set and guides etc.. etc... If you were confident in, and willing to perform the work yourself you could save about 6-700 bills. Hey, it's no biggie... I sometimes farm work out too, especially when time and not knowing WTF I'm doing is a concern! Good luck w/ the leak and other stuff... let us know how it all works out!


Oh and the work mentioned above includes a high hourly rate and a generous time factor!