Toytec vs. ss lifts

michalik_piotr · 04-08-2008, 11:41 PM

Besides the price, opinions? Which is better and why? Trying to decide and maybe budget for one. Thanks

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emptypockets · 04-09-2008, 05:18 AM

Either is a good option, but the SS systems are specifically designed for trail performance. Avoid the Toytec coil spring spacer kits. Spacers just aren't a good long term solution. Their coil lift kits will be fine though.

hross14 · 04-09-2008, 07:54 AM

SS-It is a strainght forward kit and built very well. you will have no surprises when you put it in

j-man · 04-09-2008, 08:10 AM

i just put in the SS #1 kit with the cruiser coils and everything else he has for the rear in my 2000 4runner, and put some sway a way's 2.5" in the front along with some 285's and ill tell you what - its the nicest darn riding 4runner i have. Im going to switch the other 3's rear suspension to his - the ride is sooo smooth, yet tight - hard to explain but its hands down the best rear lift for any 4runner.

psraff · 04-09-2008, 11:58 AM

I'm thinking my shocks and springs may be getting weak so I was researching the SS lifts... For the 1.2 it states: "At a bare minimum, if you have a stock rear bumper, you need to have at least a Class III trailer hitch installed with the complete stock rear bumper along with a set of functional rock sliders. "

Why do we "have" to have that? It's not a big deal, I have the hitch, and the bumper and the sliders are fairly cheap. But what's with the lift that need the hitch and the sliders? Or am I just misreading it?

montana nate · 04-09-2008, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psraff

I'm thinking my shocks and springs may be getting weak so I was researching the SS lifts... For the 1.2 it states: "At a bare minimum, if you have a stock rear bumper, you need to have at least a Class III trailer hitch installed with the complete stock rear bumper along with a set of functional rock sliders. "

Why do we "have" to have that? It's not a big deal, I have the hitch, and the bumper and the sliders are fairly cheap. But what's with the lift that need the hitch and the sliders? Or am I just misreading it?

I think they could be talking about the weight, stiff springs without any weight on them are going to ride rough ...... they are designed to carry a certain loading

psraff · 04-09-2008, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by montana nate

I think they could be talking about the weight, stiff springs without any weight on them are going to ride rough ...... they are designed to carry a certain loading

Ahhh Good point. Makes sense. Thanks!

emptypockets · 04-09-2008, 06:09 PM

The LC's are not stiff springs. The reason they call for the additional weight in the rear is to "tame" the amount of lift you'll get from them. Without the hitch and some extra weight in the rear, expect ~4.5" from the LC's. Mine have settled from 4.25" to about 3.75 now...and that's after a year of use and abuse.

You'll find that the LC's are one of the softest riding and best articulating springs you can put on your Runner. The OME's on the other hand are very stiff!

d0ubledown · 04-09-2008, 08:24 PM

ome's are stiff. never ridden in an SS lift, but my friend had an '00 with the downey coilover kit with billies. it was quite plush...very nice ride....id say about as plush as stock with a touch firmer dampening to it..

Albuquerque Jim · 04-09-2008, 08:52 PM

The SS kits are tried and true. Steve is always upgrading components to refine his products to a superior level. You won't be disappointed.

thmpr · 04-09-2008, 09:33 PM

My SS 7.2 just arrived and so stinking excited. Will do it this weekend!

montana nate · 04-09-2008, 09:37 PM

Hmmmmm, I still have the original OEM springs from my FZJ80, I was thinking they would give me more lift and stiffer then I wanted, but since they are already broken in, I may have to give them a shot ...... so if those are out back, whats a good pairing to them up front?

Albuquerque Jim · 04-09-2008, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by montana nate

Hmmmmm, I still have the original OEM springs from my FZJ80, I was thinking they would give me more lift and stiffer then I wanted, but since they are already broken in, I may have to give them a shot ...... so if those are out back, whats a good pairing to them up front?

Careful, you have to use a certain coil, some years are way off.

www.sonoransteel.com

montana nate · 04-09-2008, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Albuquerque Jim

Careful, you have to use a certain coil, some years are way off.

www.sonoransteel.com

Do you know what year? Mine are off my 97' FZJ80, I have both the front and rear coils

Sloan · 04-09-2008, 09:56 PM

does anybody know the difference between toytecs coils vs. the ome ones?

rdang · 04-09-2008, 10:07 PM

I'll have to agree with j-man, I installed the SS 1.1 recently and the ride is much, much better than stock - that's with no extra weight from bumpers... and the flex is outrageous!

hross14 · 04-10-2008, 08:54 AM

Took at look at the Toy Tec lift--i wouldnt go that direction. Do it right the first time and be pleased instead of seeing me out there wheeling and asking you WHATS WRONG?

No just kidding--but do it right and it wont regret it. I cant tell you how many times i purchased a cheaper this or that and ended going back for the more expensive this or that.

04-09-2008, 05:18 AM	#2 (permalink)
emptypockets Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Spencer, Iowa Posts: 842	Either is a good option, but the SS systems are specifically designed for trail performance. Avoid the Toytec coil spring spacer kits. Spacers just aren't a good long term solution. Their coil lift kits will be fine though. __________________ Model: '02 4Runner SR5 - White On Natural Oak, Tan Interior Engine/Performance: 3.4L V6, Auto, AndyMod, Jardine Catback Exhaust, S&B Intake Rear Suspension: 3.75" lift with LC coils and Rancho RS5000 shocks Front Suspension: 3" lift with OME 882 springs and OME N91sc shocks, Diff Drop Tires: 285/75 R16 Fierce Attitude M/T's, Pacer 164P Alloy Wheels Misc: Full Time Power Outlet Mod, Extra Power Outlet Mod, GE Nighthawks My Profile: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2915959

04-09-2008, 07:54 AM	#3 (permalink)
hross14 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 1,169	SS-It is a strainght forward kit and built very well. you will have no surprises when you put it in __________________ Yes, I said "country." America really is a nation, but you couldn't convince those who lead the Democratic and Republican Parties of that. Both parties now see America as nothing more than an economy, a marketplace, and not a sovereign nation. They don't see you and me as citizens of this great nation; they see us as units of labor, consumers and taxpayers. Yes, I am here to collect my 238$ worth of stock from AIG. "What do you mean a free market economy doesnt apply to the rich?"

04-09-2008, 08:10 AM	#4 (permalink)
j-man Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Santa Monica, Ca Posts: 207	i just put in the SS #1 kit with the cruiser coils and everything else he has for the rear in my 2000 4runner, and put some sway a way's 2.5" in the front along with some 285's and ill tell you what - its the nicest darn riding 4runner i have. Im going to switch the other 3's rear suspension to his - the ride is sooo smooth, yet tight - hard to explain but its hands down the best rear lift for any 4runner. __________________ 2000 4Runner v6 sr5 4x4 5spd: Turbo'ed 99 4Runner v6 Sr5 4x4 5spd: Saw's / OME combo TrueTrac rear 98 4Runner V6 Sr5 4x4 5spd E-locker: Saws / OME combo... EEZI AWN Roof Tent 1.4m 97 4Runner V6 Sr5 4x4 Auto: Saws / OME combo TrueTrac rear 2003 Landcruiser 285 BFG At's and outback roofrack My Baja Trailer Build: http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=179520 http://community.webshots.com/user/bajaroadtrain

04-09-2008, 11:58 AM	#5 (permalink)
psraff Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kenai, Alaska Posts: 346	I'm thinking my shocks and springs may be getting weak so I was researching the SS lifts... For the 1.2 it states: "At a bare minimum, if you have a stock rear bumper, you need to have at least a Class III trailer hitch installed with the complete stock rear bumper along with a set of functional rock sliders. " Why do we "have" to have that? It's not a big deal, I have the hitch, and the bumper and the sliders are fairly cheap. But what's with the lift that need the hitch and the sliders? Or am I just misreading it? __________________ *Shannon Rafferty* '99 Runner SR5 Kenai, Alaska Done: E-Locker mod \| Scion Stereo \| K&N FIPK \| Nitto Terra Grappler 265/75R16 \| Pro Comp Xtreme Alloy Series 7089 \| Huculined bumpers \| Tint \| Flex-a-lite Fans \| ScanGaugeII \| LightForce 170s \| Smoked LED Tail Lights \| VHT Nightshade \| Tranny Cooler To Be Done: Lift kit \| Front and Rear Bumpers \| Sliders Profile & Pics of my '99 4Runner CarDomain Profile: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3304961

04-09-2008, 06:09 PM	#8 (permalink)
emptypockets Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Spencer, Iowa Posts: 842	The LC's are not stiff springs. The reason they call for the additional weight in the rear is to "tame" the amount of lift you'll get from them. Without the hitch and some extra weight in the rear, expect ~4.5" from the LC's. Mine have settled from 4.25" to about 3.75 now...and that's after a year of use and abuse. You'll find that the LC's are one of the softest riding and best articulating springs you can put on your Runner. The OME's on the other hand are very stiff! __________________ Model: '02 4Runner SR5 - White On Natural Oak, Tan Interior Engine/Performance: 3.4L V6, Auto, AndyMod, Jardine Catback Exhaust, S&B Intake Rear Suspension: 3.75" lift with LC coils and Rancho RS5000 shocks Front Suspension: 3" lift with OME 882 springs and OME N91sc shocks, Diff Drop Tires: 285/75 R16 Fierce Attitude M/T's, Pacer 164P Alloy Wheels Misc: Full Time Power Outlet Mod, Extra Power Outlet Mod, GE Nighthawks My Profile: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2915959

04-09-2008, 08:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
d0ubledown Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: vansterdam BC. Posts: 1,432	ome's are stiff. never ridden in an SS lift, but my friend had an '00 with the downey coilover kit with billies. it was quite plush...very nice ride....id say about as plush as stock with a touch firmer dampening to it.. __________________ sonny ------- 1998 4Runner LTD. Fabtech CO fronts, OME/Pro Comp rears, SS rear links, Revtek diff drop, oem elocker, ARB RD90, 4.88's, 315/75/16 MT/R's on FZJ-80's, Trail Gear sliders, ARB Prado Bar, 1.5" 4Crawler BL, Tundra Brakes, wabfab disco's, IPF's...satoshi'd deckplated & ISR'd. SOLD!!! new ride: 1997 FZJ80. ome/arb/bfg/etc. when clinton lied..nobody died

04-09-2008, 08:52 PM	#10 (permalink)
Albuquerque Jim Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 2,570	The SS kits are tried and true. Steve is always upgrading components to refine his products to a superior level. You won't be disappointed. __________________ '00 SR5, "Highlander" Dual Cases, Aisin Hubs, E-Lock'd, Cryo'd, Chromo'd, ARB'd, 315's, Sonoran Steel Bumper, Lift & UCA's, 4 Crawl 1" BL, Armored...etc. F-Toy #081 in progress Dual Cases, 30 Splines, 5.71's, E-lockers, Hydro-Assist, 37's, DOM Hendrix Chassis, 80Proof, ORS, Sonoran Steel...etc.

04-09-2008, 09:33 PM	#11 (permalink)
thmpr Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 23	My SS 7.2 just arrived and so stinking excited. Will do it this weekend!

04-09-2008, 09:37 PM	#12 (permalink)
montana nate Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 43	Hmmmmm, I still have the original OEM springs from my FZJ80, I was thinking they would give me more lift and stiffer then I wanted, but since they are already broken in, I may have to give them a shot ...... so if those are out back, whats a good pairing to them up front?

04-09-2008, 10:07 PM	#16 (permalink)
rdang Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Posts: 95	I'll have to agree with j-man, I installed the SS 1.1 recently and the ride is much, much better than stock - that's with no extra weight from bumpers... and the flex is outrageous! __________________ 97 4Runner LTD :: Sonoran Steel 1.1 Lift Kit \| 33x12.5x16 Swamper SSR's on 16x10 Eagle 058 \| 4Crawler 2" BL \| Trail Gear Rock Sliders \| OEM Rear E-Locker 98 Land Cruiser :: UZJ100 on 18" Tundra wheels \| OEM Rear E-Locker

04-10-2008, 08:54 AM	#17 (permalink)
hross14 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 1,169	Took at look at the Toy Tec lift--i wouldnt go that direction. Do it right the first time and be pleased instead of seeing me out there wheeling and asking you WHATS WRONG? No just kidding--but do it right and it wont regret it. I cant tell you how many times i purchased a cheaper this or that and ended going back for the more expensive this or that. __________________ Yes, I said "country." America really is a nation, but you couldn't convince those who lead the Democratic and Republican Parties of that. Both parties now see America as nothing more than an economy, a marketplace, and not a sovereign nation. They don't see you and me as citizens of this great nation; they see us as units of labor, consumers and taxpayers. Yes, I am here to collect my 238$ worth of stock from AIG. "What do you mean a free market economy doesnt apply to the rich?"

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