Tornado Fuel Saver

Brett605 · 05-04-2004, 02:17 PM

has anybody used so called "Tornado Fuel Saver?" Does it really works as it said? or is it just another scam...

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bike4miles · 05-04-2004, 02:33 PM

They don't tell you how it works on that site so it's hard to know. Looks like it is suposed to increase air intake which you can do by installing a $30 cone air filter and $10 adapter rather than $70. Looks like a waste to me but I can't say for sure.

Tacoma Dude · 05-04-2004, 02:34 PM

Save your money.

OR you could send me the money and I'll send you valuable information on a dangerous chemical called dihydrogen monoxide or DHMO for short

http://www.dhmo.org/

EDIT:
pssst.. by the way
http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.p...ado+fuel+saver
http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.p...ado+fuel+saver

WATRD · 05-04-2004, 02:37 PM

Send me the $80 that you would spend on it, $69.97 + $10.95 shipping and handling. I will then kick you in the shins and you will have received more for your money than you will get from sending them the money

Worthless.

Tacoma Dude · 05-04-2004, 02:38 PM

ooh ooh, do you take paypal?

mxracer0486 · 05-04-2004, 02:40 PM

I watched an infomercial on it...

...the fins are supposed to make the air that comes in spin and create a "tornado" affect and thats supposed to increase hp and mpg.....

Tacoma Dude · 05-04-2004, 02:46 PM

Not scientific by any means but try looking at these reviews:
http://www.urateit.com/writtenreviews.asp?id=173

bike4miles · 05-04-2004, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mxracer0486

I watched an infomercial on it...

...the fins are supposed to make the air that comes in spin and create a "tornado" affect and thats supposed to increase hp and mpg.....

That is the same theory behind a thotle body spacer isn't it? Thoes are suposed to cause the air to roate and increas hp and from what I have heard, those catually work. There might be something to this devce but I'm pritty sure you could do a lot better with an air box mod or something which is free of cost.

wiseguymmiv · 05-04-2004, 02:53 PM

I researched the Tornado fuel saver this week. It looks like it is a scam. Check out these sites:

http://www.wcpo.com/external/dwym/c3b519.html

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/...03/detail.html

http://www.wzzm13.com/news/yoursided...articleid=9478

http://www.urateit.com/writtenreviews.asp?id=173

http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.as...0&nav=LXhhITFa

"More bolt-on magic", at http://www.dansdata.com/danletters071.htm

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cains1/...turbulence.htm

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Originally Posted by Brett605

has anybody used so called "Tornado Fuel Saver?" Does it really works as it said? or is it just another scam...

toy283 · 05-04-2004, 03:09 PM

This quote kinda says it all:

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AUTO SHOP OWNER PEG JESSE SAYS IF THESE DEVICES WORKED AS PROMISED, GM, FORD AND CHRYSLER WOULD BUY MILLIONS OF THEM!

"The companies are trying to meet mileage standards set by the government, if they could fix something with a very inexpensive part, it would come out of with it on."

rimpainter.com · 05-04-2004, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bike4miles

That is the same theory behind a thotle body spacer isn't it? Thoes are suposed to cause the air to roate and increas hp and from what I have heard, those catually work.

The spacer doesn't do crap - on Toyota's anyway. Can someone explain to me how one vortex of air can get itself into six different runners?

I have owned the Tornado. Didn't do squat.

I have owned the TB spacer. Didn't do squat either.

Don't make the same mistakes I did.

(The Tornado was on my 79 Supra)

I did have a friend that managed to suck his tornado into the Throttle Body of his VR6 Jetta, causing it to stick open at WOT. That was interesting.

My99 · 05-04-2004, 04:32 PM

I had the tornado in my 4runner when I got it. First mod was to remove it. If anyone is still foolish enough, i'll be happy to sell it to you for 15 bucks shipped, but I promise they're worthless.

SoCal4Running · 05-04-2004, 08:02 PM

If any designs like the tornado or the fuel magnet ect worked period the auto-manufactures could and would add them to increase economy for mear pennies.

ChickenLover · 05-04-2004, 08:06 PM

If I recieved one for free, it would be tossed into my pile-o-things for the 12 guage.

PirateFins · 05-05-2004, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tacoma Dude

Save your money.

OR you could send me the money and I'll send you valuable information on a dangerous chemical called dihydrogen monoxide or DHMO for short

http://www.dhmo.org/

Always have a thirst for knowledge, I must check out that chemical. Anyone have the MSD on it, you know, in case I swallow some?

foxtrapper · 05-05-2004, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Brett605

has anybody used so called "Tornado Fuel Saver?" Does it really works as it said? or is it just another scam...

Yes its a scam, and yes it does work. Lots of folks here have one and don't even know it.

It works in lawnmower engines. Briggs&Stratton has had a coil in some of their intakes for years now, decades in fact. A long intake runner coming from a sloppy carburetor has problems with fuel dropout. In this specific case, having a tumbling intake keeps the gasoline droplets suspended so the engine can run.

In a car, particularly a fuel injected one, it's a total waste and a scam.

Their gimic display of the two soda bottles joined by a little tornado device is a trick. The reason it "works" there is because by swirling the water onto the sides, an opening is made in the center for the air to rush up from the bottom as the water flows down into it. No special "flow" increase for the water at all, just a faster escape for the air. Vent the bottle and it does just the same. Don't swirl the water in the vented bottle, and it will flow down even faster. You can do the swirl thing without the tornadeo by just swishing two bottles joined with a piece of duct tape.

X-AWDriver · 05-05-2004, 09:14 AM

People on this board have $70 TRD shift knobs in their trucks and they add about the same horsepower as a Tornado.

96TRDsc · 05-05-2004, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bike4miles

That is the same theory behind a thotle body spacer isn't it? Thoes are suposed to cause the air to roate and increas hp and from what I have heard, those catually work. There might be something to this devce but I'm pritty sure you could do a lot better with an air box mod or something which is free of cost.

The Tornado may cause a swirl in the air stream but as soon as it hits anything (curve in the pipe, throttlebody inlet...) that stream is interrupted/broken up and no long effective....its a waste of money and you are just adding another restriction in your airflow.

just my .02

HaveBlue · 05-05-2004, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCal4Running

If any designs like the tornado or the fuel magnet ect worked period the auto-manufactures could and would add them to increase economy for mear pennies.

Headers increase fuel economy and power. Larger exhuasts increase power and fuel economy. A supercharger marginally increased my fuel economy and dramatically increased power. DOHC engines are far more efficient than SOHC engines. A K&N or Amsoil air filter increases air flow and filters better. Ceramic piston rings create less friction than conventional rings. Why don't auto manufacturers install all of these on every car?

rimpainter.com · 05-05-2004, 03:22 PM

I will give these a shot…

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Originally Posted by HaveBlue

Headers increase fuel economy and power.

I think this comes down to cost and reliability. It also has to do with where they make more power (a higher RPM). Most people need low-end torque for daily driving. Cast Iron is cheaper to produce and it dissipates heat and reduces under-hood temperatures better than a standard header without a coating.

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Larger exhuasts increase power and fuel economy.

Generally speaking larger exhaust is louder and the cost is higher. Again, people want low-end torque for daily driving.

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DOHC engines are far more efficient than SOHC engines.

True if you mean power, but for gas mileage the SOHC Honda Civic HX takes the cake.

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A K&N or Amsoil air filter increases air flow and filters better. Ceramic piston rings create less friction than conventional rings. Why don't auto manufacturers install all of these on every car?

I think it all comes down to one word: Cost. Not only are the tool set ups more expensive for these parts, but labor is more intensive and general procurement would cost much more. If you start adding these things up, the cost would be notably higher in a lean production operation.

Besides, we wouldn’t get to mod anything if they all came this way.

HaveBlue · 05-05-2004, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by <96 Runner>

I will give these a shot…

I think this comes down to cost and reliability. It also has to do with where they make more power (a higher RPM). Most people need low-end torque for daily driving. Cast Iron is cheaper to produce and it dissipates heat and reduces under-hood temperatures better than a standard header without a coating.

Generally speaking larger exhaust is louder and the cost is higher. Again, people want low-end torque for daily driving.

True if you mean power, but for gas mileage the SOHC Honda Civic HX takes the cake.

I think it all comes down to one word: Cost. Not only are the tool set ups more expensive for these parts, but labor is more intensive and general procurement would cost much more. If you start adding these things up, the cost would be notably higher in a lean production operation.

Besides, we wouldn’t get to mod anything if they all came this way.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

WATRD · 05-05-2004, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaveBlue

Headers increase fuel economy and power. Larger exhuasts increase power and fuel economy. A supercharger marginally increased my fuel economy and dramatically increased power. DOHC engines are far more efficient than SOHC engines. A K&N or Amsoil air filter increases air flow and filters better. Ceramic piston rings create less friction than conventional rings. Why don't auto manufacturers install all of these on every car?

And if they stripped down the seats and interior they would save weight and thus increase economy and performance. Same thing if they went with fiberglass bodies. If they removed all the non-essential electrical loads like power windwows, locks radio, that would save as well... If vehicles were shaped like cigars, they would have less drag and that would increase economy and performance.

So your argument is that the Tornado works because there are other things manufacturers don't install that might increase power and economy? Or is it that the those other things don't really work? I am confused as to what you are really trying to illustrate. Either one seems a bit off base...

HaveBlue · 05-06-2004, 07:22 AM

I was merely addressing the question as to why manufacturers don't install these on all engines. I've received countless e-mails and PMs with that same question regarding the Fuel Atomizer. When I answer, "because of cost," I always get the same answer - "they could just pass the cost on to the consumer." That may be so, but why limit it to just a Tornado fuel saver or other fuel saving devices? Why not incorporate headers and pass the cost onto the consumer? Why not make the whole vehicle out of fiberglass and pass the cost on to the consumer?
At that point, I usually get a response that says, "the government is making lower emissions vehicles with better gas mileage mandatory. If [insert fuel saving device] works so well, why don't they install them onto vehicles." By this time, I realize I'm just running around in circles and I stop responding.

sportJr · 05-06-2004, 01:17 PM

worked great in a friends Miata, for real. 1 more mile per gallon, and a bit peppier

X-AWDriver · 05-07-2004, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by sportJr

worked great in a friends Miata, for real. 1 more mile per gallon, and a bit peppier

You could probably get the same results from an air freshener plus 1mpg + or - can be a result of anything and the Tornado has been proven many times on a dyno to do nothing but if you want to make some guy who has fooled alot of people already more wealthier then I guess it's a person's perogative.

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bike4miles Contributing Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 3,402	They don't tell you how it works on that site so it's hard to know. Looks like it is suposed to increase air intake which you can do by installing a $30 cone air filter and $10 adapter rather than $70. Looks like a waste to me but I can't say for sure. __________________ --Miles Sold '91 4runner, 22re, 5 spd manual, 180,000 miles, cone filter, Downey 1.5"HD coils, SkyJacker Nitrogens, Magnaflow Exhaust, Stull grill, Clears all around. Check out my sound proofing project and other mods: My 4runner page My 2006 Camry page I'm a Myspace Addict!

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Tacoma Dude Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 8,360	Save your money. OR you could send me the money and I'll send you valuable information on a dangerous chemical called dihydrogen monoxide or DHMO for short http://www.dhmo.org/ EDIT: pssst.. by the way http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.p...ado+fuel+saver http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.p...ado+fuel+saver __________________ Peter! 2002 Tacoma 1986 4Runner Last edited by Tacoma Dude; 05-04-2004 at 02:38 PM.

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mxracer0486 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Nor Cal, CA Posts: 113	I watched an infomercial on it... ...the fins are supposed to make the air that comes in spin and create a "tornado" affect and thats supposed to increase hp and mpg.....

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My99 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Fayetteville, AR Posts: 1,111	I had the tornado in my 4runner when I got it. First mod was to remove it. If anyone is still foolish enough, i'll be happy to sell it to you for 15 bucks shipped, but I promise they're worthless. __________________ Kyle H Current Yota: 86 4Runner - Daily Beater

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HaveBlue Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,667	I was merely addressing the question as to why manufacturers don't install these on all engines. I've received countless e-mails and PMs with that same question regarding the Fuel Atomizer. When I answer, "because of cost," I always get the same answer - "they could just pass the cost on to the consumer." That may be so, but why limit it to just a Tornado fuel saver or other fuel saving devices? Why not incorporate headers and pass the cost onto the consumer? Why not make the whole vehicle out of fiberglass and pass the cost on to the consumer? At that point, I usually get a response that says, "the government is making lower emissions vehicles with better gas mileage mandatory. If [insert fuel saving device] works so well, why don't they install them onto vehicles." By this time, I realize I'm just running around in circles and I stop responding. __________________ Alan *1996 Supercharged 4Runner Limited* Hi Altitude 4Lo A 4WD club for Colorado and surrounding states

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