Tire\Wheel Info for 4th Gens

Lefty · 06-28-2003, 08:48 AM

Things are finally starting to come together ! Yesterday, after months of dealing with the OEM equipment, I finally got new wheels and tires on my 2003 Runner. In a nutshell, I'm a very happy camper... But it didn't come without a bit of pain in the process. Here are some things I learned:

1. First, the factory wheels do NOT have a 0 offset. It's something closer to a +30 mill. offset. This is important info if you will be putting larger/wider tires on your Runner since the factory rims will most likely not work due to their close proximity to the front suspension. I have a 0 offset wheel and now have plenty of room.

2. Second, you will NOT be able to go larger than a 265\70R17 tire (32", or a 265\75R16 if you go with 16" rims) without a LOT of rubbing. I have a 2" prototype lift and am still experiencing rubbing against my front mudflaps. Of course, taking those mudflaps off would correct the problem, but leave me with a funny-looking truck.

3. Simply finding a wheel with a 6x5.5 or 6x139.5 lug pattern will NOT work, either. You will need to go the extra step and find a non-hub centric wheel (this may not be a big surprise to you dedicated Toyota owners). Personally, this added a significant amount of frustration since I was trying to stick with a 17" wheel, and the non-hub centric selections are VERY limited.

OK, enough of the lessons. here are some pix !

I've got 17x8 AR Diamondbacks wearing 265\70R17 BFG All-Terrain T/As. These netted me another 1/2" of ground clearance, too ! (now 10.25" at the skidplate).

Hope this helps someone avoid the steep learning curve I went through this week.

Steve

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Vato Loco · 06-28-2003, 09:42 AM

Now thats what 4th suppose to look like!

Canine · 06-28-2003, 10:46 AM

How about sharing some info on that lift. I hear Revtek has one in the works.

EDGE · 06-28-2003, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vato Loco
Now thats what 4th suppose to look like!

Lefty · 06-28-2003, 11:41 AM

Quote:

How about sharing some info on that lift. I hear Revtek has one in the works.

Well there's really nothing new that hasn't been said in other posts. I am still running Daystar's prototype lift for the 4th Gens. I got exactly 2" front, 1 3/4" rear lift. It's run great over the last 4 months, so I have nothing but good things to say about it. The latest info from Daystar is that the production version of the lift will be available just after the July 4th, but I'm not holding my breath on that one. Rest asured, I'll post some info and pix once the production lift is done and on the truck !

Steve

Sac State · 06-28-2003, 01:48 PM

So you ended up with 265/70x17. Was there any rubbing with the stock set-up before the lift? Looks great! Did you upsize your spare? I notice you have the V8 and fulltime 4x4.

Lefty · 06-28-2003, 02:34 PM

Sac,

The only thing rubbing before or after the lift was installed was my skidplate against the rocks I was driving over.

Good question on the spare. I did not upsize my spare. It is still the factory rim with the OEM tire (265\65R17). I'm not sure how this set up will work if I get a flat, but figure it should be good enough to get me back to civilization if I do. Theoretically, it should work since all of the differentials are open. So I shouldn't damage anything. However, the VSC may throw fits since one tire is rotating at a different velocity than all the others. Maybe if the temps get below 110 one of these days, I'll go swap things around and see how she does...

Steve

02Runner · 06-28-2003, 07:11 PM

Lefty, I have to commend you, that 4th looks Sweet!!!

I have just ordered Allied Wheels 17x9 sim beadlocks and am going to run GY Wrangler 265-70-17's.Do you think that'll be a problem?? I hope not, but if so, I should be able to get by with the stock wheels until the 2" daystar lift comes out, ya think??

Anywho, your runner is friggin' awesome. Are you happy with the offroad capability of it so far? I know I am, Toyota has pretty much solidified me as a lifetime customer with this rig, not that I wasn't before, but they've done themselves a good thing with the new Runner, IMHO.
Pics comin' tomm.

Later,

Doug

Lefty · 06-28-2003, 07:40 PM

'02,

Thanks for the compliments !

The intention of this thread was to help members, just like you, get through the decision\planning process. As stated above, the 265\70R17's will fit but you will most likely have some rubbing. The amount of rubbing will depend upon your wheel's offset. Anything close to a 0 offset, will cause rubbing on your mudflap during turns (especially with those MT\R's !). Now you could probably get around that problem by simply taking the front mudflaps off, and gain yourself the necessary clearance to stop the rubbing.

Offroad ? You bet ! Easily the best vehicle I have driven off-road. Watch that ground clearance tho ! (probably it's worst short-coming).

Good luck with your tires\wheels ! Be sure to post some pix when you get them !

Steve

EDGE · 06-28-2003, 07:42 PM

02Runner

You said you traded a 2002 for a 2003, did you loose anything or did you make out and brake even

bitchaaz · 06-28-2003, 08:09 PM

Hey lefty..That definetly looks badass..Just wondering...
From what i understand, you have 2" lift, 17x8, with 0 offset, and your NOT rubbing anywhere on the BFG's?, did i get that straight?

AR Diamondbacks

Sac State · 06-28-2003, 10:15 PM

Lefty:

Those AR Diamondbacks, are they series 617? Did you buy local or web? I notice you de-badged the side monikers. Did you use a blow dryer, dental floss and denatured alcohol? Thanks

Sac State · 06-28-2003, 10:20 PM

Edge:

With the rebates, % rate, aggressive negotiating, and a willingness to sell, I came out ahead from trading my '02 Sport for an '03 Sport. I paid about $200 less for the '03 than I did for the '02!??! And I now have a V8, etc. Two years and 36K miles on the '02 for what I paid was an added bonus.

FUGGRWE · 06-28-2003, 10:59 PM

That looks so pimp.

02Runner · 06-29-2003, 06:49 AM

Thanks Lefty! I think I may have an offset of +12mm on the ones I ordered, infact they may only be 17x8 instaed of x9. I was uncertain and let the Allied distributor near me figure out the offset and width.

Edge, I did lose a little on the trade because I had over 31,000 miles after only 12 mos of having it. I saved myself somewhat because I had bought a 1998 BMW 740il with 60k on it (which I was making payments on) from a friend and also ditched that at the same time. All of the trading and owing and owning it turned out that I made out about a couple of $grand$ ahead on the enitire swap and only have one vehicle payment now and a new Runner with low miles, V-8 and a sunroof. I'm still waiting on the rubberized PVC flooring though.

Also like Sac State said, aggressive marketing let me buy my 03 for 31,080. The sticker that suggested MSRP was like 36,800. Interest rate was also an added bonus. I used Edmunds for a good True Market Value on a new Runner.

JGage · 06-29-2003, 07:18 AM

That is one bad ass looking '03... I need some of those wheels too.

Love that color.

Lefty · 06-29-2003, 10:16 AM

Jim,

With the 2" lift and 0 offset, I AM rubbing on my mudflaps. In fact, I did about 20 miles of driving yesterday and checking my mudflaps this morning, I found quite a bit of rubbing. I took the front mudflaps off to check for clearance and don't have ANY rubbing without them.

So to summarize. A 2" lift, 0 offset wheel, 265/70R17s, and NO front mudflaps, and I have NO rubbing.

Sac,

Got the tires and wheels through my local Discount Tire store. They deal with a lot of AR wheels, so it wasn't a big deal with them. And since I was getting tires also, they gave me a pretty good deal.

Just be sure to look for those non-hub centric wheels. while I'm happy with the results, these weren't the first wheels on my list !

The tires on the other hand, were a no-brainer...

Steve

Good Times · 06-29-2003, 02:05 PM

If you guys have gone offroading in your new 03 4runner, you will rub w/ stock tires...

If you air down enough, it'll rub on the mudflaps!

Also another thing that I noticed is that when you full lock turn either right or left, if you turn onto a slight incline, the stock tires will rub the mudflaps as well.

But this only applies to the 16" wheel owners because I have the 16" wheels.

If you guys are planning to buy some wheels, make sure you have enough backspacing for your wheels. You have to make sure that the brake calipers clear or else it won't fit. I would recomment purchasing 1 first to test ffit it. All tire companies will do with for ya. This ensures no messups and also better for both parties.

After that you can buy the other 3/4 at the proper prices as discussed!

Lance

AznSky · 06-29-2003, 02:56 PM

Where exaclty is avondale located?? Never heard of the place. Do you go to phoenix a lot? Because there are a lot of yotatech members in phoenix.

Btw, sweet lookin 4th gen. Very beefy!

JGage · 06-29-2003, 03:05 PM

I haven't taken mine off roading, unless you count really crumy country dirt roads... But, I often turn the wheel to the stops and hop good size speed bumps... No rubbing, I have the 17's FWIW.

EDGE · 06-29-2003, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JGage
I haven't taken mine off roading, unless you count really crumy country dirt roads... But, I often turn the wheel to the stops and hop good size speed bumps... No rubbing, I have the 17's FWIW.

Was it you who said you swaped tire for 265/70 17 and had no rubbing issues and you reset the Nav/tire computer.

Cause I know I asked a while back about tire size and what will rub and somebody said they went from the 65 to 70 with no problem, thats all I want is 265/70 17, Yokohama Geolandar AT+II

JGage · 06-29-2003, 06:33 PM

No, not me... Aside from floormats, syth oil, and window tint, my 03 is stock. Heck, I don't ever have griots on it yet.

edited to say: I have jacked my wheels to the stops and I have a good amount of clearance between the front flaps... Well more than the 1/2" gain from the 70's would bring. You guys must be really aggressive !

What Toyota SHOULD HAVE done was make the "Sport" models the off-road model and lifted it 2-3" and upgraded the tires and rims. Kinda like Chevy does with the Z-71 mark. I got a Limited because I wanted leather, quiet, a place the throw a bunch of stuff, but keep it clean and safe, and be able to go down unimproved roads. But, I feel for you really/off-road guys.

keisur · 06-29-2003, 06:35 PM

yes, those look really good. gives it an "earlier 4runner" appeal.

Lefty · 06-29-2003, 06:58 PM

Goodtimes,

I never had any rubbing from the stock 17" wheels, regardless of what I was doing.

But you do hit on a good point - be sure of backspacing\offset when working with new wheels ! When fitting the new wheels to my truck, I ordered all 4 wheels\tires, had them air up only one, put it on the truck, and checked out all of the clearances. The local shop was OK with the possibility of the wheels not fitting since they had no idea what would fit on the truck. With all of the changes, unknowns, and potential risks, I'm surprised they didn't ask me to leave !

Toyo,

I live on the "West side". Avondale is out by Goodyear, Glendale, and Tolleson. And yes, I do drive into the Phoenix area, every day in fact. It's about 15 minutes to downtown, 25 minutes to Tempe.

Steve

Good Times · 06-30-2003, 08:45 AM

Lefty:

you're lucky that you don't experience any rubbing

Even in my stock form, I can rub the flaps even in it's stock aired 36psi (ish). The technique is making a 90 degree turn onto a ramp w/ just enough speed to compress it enough to hear it rub!

Also rubbing is somewhat noticeable when you air down alot and make some extreme turns with just enough speed too...

But I know as soon as my Downey's are in place, that will end!

Anyone want to make me a set of body lifts now?!?!?!?!

Yeah backspacing is critical. But I'm already set on a specific rim/tire combination that I know should work as it's worked on all other toyotas. My goal to make sure the 285's muds will fit w/o any issues. I'm sure I'll have to take the mud flaps out as well as the wheel well casing too. Probably have to flatten out the sheet metal parts too but that'll be upon installation.

Lance

06-28-2003, 09:42 AM	#2 (permalink)
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Sac State Contributing Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Piedmont, North Carolina Posts: 828	So you ended up with 265/70x17. Was there any rubbing with the stock set-up before the lift? Looks great! Did you upsize your spare? I notice you have the V8 and fulltime 4x4. __________________ 2003 Sport V8 4x4 Black/GC Borla Dual exhaust, Black Pearl Emblems, aFe intake, Full Husky's, WeatherTech vent visors, OBX pedals, Revo's.

06-28-2003, 07:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
02Runner Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: SW Fla Posts: 758	Lefty, I have to commend you, that 4th looks Sweet!!! I have just ordered Allied Wheels 17x9 sim beadlocks and am going to run GY Wrangler 265-70-17's.Do you think that'll be a problem?? I hope not, but if so, I should be able to get by with the stock wheels until the 2" daystar lift comes out, ya think?? Anywho, your runner is friggin' awesome. Are you happy with the offroad capability of it so far? I know I am, Toyota has pretty much solidified me as a lifetime customer with this rig, not that I wasn't before, but they've done themselves a good thing with the new Runner, IMHO. Pics comin' tomm. Later, Doug __________________ 2003 Runner SE / Cruisers 1971,1980,1997(40th) & 2005 Last edited by 02Runner; 06-28-2003 at 07:13 PM.

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06-28-2003, 02:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
Lefty Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Avondale, AZ Posts: 236	Sac, The only thing rubbing before or after the lift was installed was my skidplate against the rocks I was driving over. Good question on the spare. I did not upsize my spare. It is still the factory rim with the OEM tire (265\65R17). I'm not sure how this set up will work if I get a flat, but figure it should be good enough to get me back to civilization if I do. Theoretically, it should work since all of the differentials are open. So I shouldn't damage anything. However, the VSC may throw fits since one tire is rotating at a different velocity than all the others. Maybe if the temps get below 110 one of these days, I'll go swap things around and see how she does... Steve

06-28-2003, 07:40 PM	#9 (permalink)
Lefty Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Avondale, AZ Posts: 236	'02, Thanks for the compliments ! The intention of this thread was to help members, just like you, get through the decision\planning process. As stated above, the 265\70R17's will fit but you will most likely have some rubbing. The amount of rubbing will depend upon your wheel's offset. Anything close to a 0 offset, will cause rubbing on your mudflap during turns (especially with those MT\R's !). Now you could probably get around that problem by simply taking the front mudflaps off, and gain yourself the necessary clearance to stop the rubbing. Offroad ? You bet ! Easily the best vehicle I have driven off-road. Watch that ground clearance tho ! (probably it's worst short-coming). Good luck with your tires\wheels ! Be sure to post some pix when you get them ! Steve

06-28-2003, 08:09 PM	#11 (permalink)
bitchaaz Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: frederick,Md. Posts: 140	Hey lefty..That definetly looks badass..Just wondering... From what i understand, you have 2" lift, 17x8, with 0 offset, and your NOT rubbing anywhere on the BFG's?, did i get that straight? AR Diamondbacks __________________ '02 Taco stepside 3" cornfed 285 Dueller's 16x8 ASA TRS by BBS Gibson exhaust 3" Deckplate w/ K&N filter '97 Runner just begging to be worked on. http://community.webshots.com/user/jimig104 Jim YEA..I SAID IT!

06-28-2003, 10:15 PM	#12 (permalink)
Sac State Contributing Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Piedmont, North Carolina Posts: 828	Lefty: Those AR Diamondbacks, are they series 617? Did you buy local or web? I notice you de-badged the side monikers. Did you use a blow dryer, dental floss and denatured alcohol? Thanks __________________ 2003 Sport V8 4x4 Black/GC Borla Dual exhaust, Black Pearl Emblems, aFe intake, Full Husky's, WeatherTech vent visors, OBX pedals, Revo's.

06-28-2003, 10:20 PM	#13 (permalink)
Sac State Contributing Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Piedmont, North Carolina Posts: 828	Edge: With the rebates, % rate, aggressive negotiating, and a willingness to sell, I came out ahead from trading my '02 Sport for an '03 Sport. I paid about $200 less for the '03 than I did for the '02!??! And I now have a V8, etc. Two years and 36K miles on the '02 for what I paid was an added bonus. __________________ 2003 Sport V8 4x4 Black/GC Borla Dual exhaust, Black Pearl Emblems, aFe intake, Full Husky's, WeatherTech vent visors, OBX pedals, Revo's.

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FUGGRWE Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: South Florida Posts: 1,252	That looks so pimp. __________________ 2006 Tacoma Double Cab 4x4 I do not like green eggs and ham. I do not like them, Sam I am.

06-29-2003, 06:49 AM	#15 (permalink)
02Runner Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: SW Fla Posts: 758	Thanks Lefty! I think I may have an offset of +12mm on the ones I ordered, infact they may only be 17x8 instaed of x9. I was uncertain and let the Allied distributor near me figure out the offset and width. Edge, I did lose a little on the trade because I had over 31,000 miles after only 12 mos of having it. I saved myself somewhat because I had bought a 1998 BMW 740il with 60k on it (which I was making payments on) from a friend and also ditched that at the same time. All of the trading and owing and owning it turned out that I made out about a couple of $grand$ ahead on the enitire swap and only have one vehicle payment now and a new Runner with low miles, V-8 and a sunroof. I'm still waiting on the rubberized PVC flooring though. Also like Sac State said, aggressive marketing let me buy my 03 for 31,080. The sticker that suggested MSRP was like 36,800. Interest rate was also an added bonus. I used Edmunds for a good True Market Value on a new Runner. __________________ 2003 Runner SE / Cruisers 1971,1980,1997(40th) & 2005 Last edited by 02Runner; 06-29-2003 at 06:54 AM.

06-29-2003, 07:18 AM	#16 (permalink)
JGage Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NW Florida Posts: 585	That is one bad ass looking '03... I need some of those wheels too. Love that color. __________________ 2003 Galactic Gray Limited 4WD V8 w/ X-reas. Passenger and Driver window tint mod. <G> Royal Purple ! Amsoil in the Diffs and TC. "…..there’s always a way of balancing things. Someday it’ll come. Don’t hunt for it, don’t pledge revenge – revenge is for children. It’s a lot more satisfying to f#ck with their mind. Just keep your eyes open and wait for the chance. The take it for everything its worth. "

06-29-2003, 10:16 AM	#17 (permalink)
Lefty Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Avondale, AZ Posts: 236	Jim, With the 2" lift and 0 offset, I AM rubbing on my mudflaps. In fact, I did about 20 miles of driving yesterday and checking my mudflaps this morning, I found quite a bit of rubbing. I took the front mudflaps off to check for clearance and don't have ANY rubbing without them. So to summarize. A 2" lift, 0 offset wheel, 265/70R17s, and NO front mudflaps, and I have NO rubbing. Sac, Got the tires and wheels through my local Discount Tire store. They deal with a lot of AR wheels, so it wasn't a big deal with them. And since I was getting tires also, they gave me a pretty good deal. Just be sure to look for those non-hub centric wheels. while I'm happy with the results, these weren't the first wheels on my list ! The tires on the other hand, were a no-brainer... Steve

06-29-2003, 02:05 PM	#18 (permalink)
Good Times Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,693	If you guys have gone offroading in your new 03 4runner, you will rub w/ stock tires... If you air down enough, it'll rub on the mudflaps! Also another thing that I noticed is that when you full lock turn either right or left, if you turn onto a slight incline, the stock tires will rub the mudflaps as well. But this only applies to the 16" wheel owners because I have the 16" wheels. If you guys are planning to buy some wheels, make sure you have enough backspacing for your wheels. You have to make sure that the brake calipers clear or else it won't fit. I would recomment purchasing 1 first to test ffit it. All tire companies will do with for ya. This ensures no messups and also better for both parties. After that you can buy the other 3/4 at the proper prices as discussed! Lance __________________ 2003 4runner SR5 4x4 Chaos Edition Chaos Edition! Operation Rebuild Chaos Edition Need to reach me or ask questions? You can find me here!

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AznSky Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 2,796	Where exaclty is avondale located?? Never heard of the place. Do you go to phoenix a lot? Because there are a lot of yotatech members in phoenix. Btw, sweet lookin 4th gen. Very beefy! __________________ Rob

06-29-2003, 03:05 PM	#20 (permalink)
JGage Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NW Florida Posts: 585	I haven't taken mine off roading, unless you count really crumy country dirt roads... But, I often turn the wheel to the stops and hop good size speed bumps... No rubbing, I have the 17's FWIW. __________________ 2003 Galactic Gray Limited 4WD V8 w/ X-reas. Passenger and Driver window tint mod. <G> Royal Purple ! Amsoil in the Diffs and TC. "…..there’s always a way of balancing things. Someday it’ll come. Don’t hunt for it, don’t pledge revenge – revenge is for children. It’s a lot more satisfying to f#ck with their mind. Just keep your eyes open and wait for the chance. The take it for everything its worth. "

06-29-2003, 06:33 PM	#22 (permalink)
JGage Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NW Florida Posts: 585	No, not me... Aside from floormats, syth oil, and window tint, my 03 is stock. Heck, I don't ever have griots on it yet. edited to say: I have jacked my wheels to the stops and I have a good amount of clearance between the front flaps... Well more than the 1/2" gain from the 70's would bring. You guys must be really aggressive ! What Toyota SHOULD HAVE done was make the "Sport" models the off-road model and lifted it 2-3" and upgraded the tires and rims. Kinda like Chevy does with the Z-71 mark. I got a Limited because I wanted leather, quiet, a place the throw a bunch of stuff, but keep it clean and safe, and be able to go down unimproved roads. But, I feel for you really/off-road guys. __________________ 2003 Galactic Gray Limited 4WD V8 w/ X-reas. Passenger and Driver window tint mod. <G> Royal Purple ! Amsoil in the Diffs and TC. "…..there’s always a way of balancing things. Someday it’ll come. Don’t hunt for it, don’t pledge revenge – revenge is for children. It’s a lot more satisfying to f#ck with their mind. Just keep your eyes open and wait for the chance. The take it for everything its worth. " Last edited by JGage; 06-29-2003 at 06:44 PM.

06-29-2003, 06:58 PM	#24 (permalink)
Lefty Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Avondale, AZ Posts: 236	Goodtimes, I never had any rubbing from the stock 17" wheels, regardless of what I was doing. But you do hit on a good point - be sure of backspacing\offset when working with new wheels ! When fitting the new wheels to my truck, I ordered all 4 wheels\tires, had them air up only one, put it on the truck, and checked out all of the clearances. The local shop was OK with the possibility of the wheels not fitting since they had no idea what would fit on the truck. With all of the changes, unknowns, and potential risks, I'm surprised they didn't ask me to leave ! Toyo, I live on the "West side". Avondale is out by Goodyear, Glendale, and Tolleson. And yes, I do drive into the Phoenix area, every day in fact. It's about 15 minutes to downtown, 25 minutes to Tempe. Steve

06-30-2003, 08:45 AM	#25 (permalink)
Good Times Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,693	Lefty: you're lucky that you don't experience any rubbing Even in my stock form, I can rub the flaps even in it's stock aired 36psi (ish). The technique is making a 90 degree turn onto a ramp w/ just enough speed to compress it enough to hear it rub! Also rubbing is somewhat noticeable when you air down alot and make some extreme turns with just enough speed too... But I know as soon as my Downey's are in place, that will end! Anyone want to make me a set of body lifts now?!?!?!?! Yeah backspacing is critical. But I'm already set on a specific rim/tire combination that I know should work as it's worked on all other toyotas. My goal to make sure the 285's muds will fit w/o any issues. I'm sure I'll have to take the mud flaps out as well as the wheel well casing too. Probably have to flatten out the sheet metal parts too but that'll be upon installation. Lance __________________ 2003 4runner SR5 4x4 Chaos Edition Chaos Edition! Operation Rebuild Chaos Edition Need to reach me or ask questions? You can find me here!

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