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Old 11-05-2007, 10:48 AM
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Think it's time for new springs?

Hey all, long time since I last posted.

I'm getting tired of the rough ride I've been experiencing in my rig. Just took a look at the rear suspension, and look what I found



I'm guessing that bump stop is way closer than it should be?

Well, I'm not interested in a big lift, so I think I'm gonna just purchase some 99 4wd coils that I can get for like $270 or less. You guys have any other possible solutions to make my runner ride better?

Edit: forgot to mention, I have a 1997 2wd Limited

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Wow!!!

Do both sides look like that?
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Originally Posted by MTL_4runner
Wow!!!

Do both sides look like that?
Yeah no kidding! What do you haul around!!??
Old 11-05-2007, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by MTL_4runner
Wow!!!

Do both sides look like that?
yeah, it's about an inch higher on the passenger side, I'm guessing b/c the gas tank isn't on that side...I've been wondering why it's been riding like a tank...I think I found the culprit

All I have in the back is a subwoofer cabinet, but I doubt that's the only cause
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http://www.allprooffroad.com/index.p...sk=view&id=122

a lot better and cheaper
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Originally Posted by jjrgr21
Those are 2nd gen springs, won't fit.
The 99 4WD springs should work fine.

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Old 11-05-2007, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by MTL_4runner
Those are 2nd gen springs, won't fit.
The 99 4WD springs should work fine.
You think I should spend an extra 80 bucks and get the airlift helper springs in the back? Cause I've done some reading and it seems those rear springs have a tendency to sag. I have a sub cabinet in the back that mabe weighs 75 lbs...and a lot of times have the back loaded up and the back seat full of people...you think that would be a worthwhile investment?
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Also, consider PP rear springs. They'll stand up to additional weight and give ~1" of lift over stock IIRC.
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Originally Posted by TX2RUNNER1997
You think I should spend an extra 80 bucks and get the airlift helper springs in the back? Cause I've done some reading and it seems those rear springs have a tendency to sag. I have a sub cabinet in the back that mabe weighs 75 lbs...and a lot of times have the back loaded up and the back seat full of people...you think that would be a worthwhile investment?
I am thinking of doing the same. I hate how it sits when loaded with the cargo area full of camping gear etc. I actually thought of throwing in the airlift bags first before I got for new springs (mine don't sag anywhere near what yours does).
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99 4Runner Coils will sag eventually too. Everyone seems to like the Performance Products springs. I have had the Downey 2" spring and they gave the back of my car about a 1/4" rake with stock fronts, looked pretty good and they never saged. I would recomend those but that's all I know besides the taller OME's which are great. Just my opinion, but I would try to stay away from Air bags unless you like a soft ride unloaded but tow heavy loads as well, just because of the extra maintenance with them.
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Originally Posted by TX2RUNNER1997
You think I should spend an extra 80 bucks and get the airlift helper springs in the back? Cause I've done some reading and it seems those rear springs have a tendency to sag. I have a sub cabinet in the back that mabe weighs 75 lbs...and a lot of times have the back loaded up and the back seat full of people...you think that would be a worthwhile investment?
If you're worried about sagging (which you should be with any OEM Toyota springs), then go with some OME 906 coils like I have or the PP springs for the rear. You can go the airbag route but it's a bit of a pain to inflate and deflate all the time unless you have the in-cab adjustment setup. Airbags should be thought of a supplemental (ie towing or really heavy loads) rather than the primary means of support.

What is your current measurement in the front from fender to ground?
What size tires are you running?

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Originally Posted by MTL_4runner
If you're worried about sagging (which you should be with any OEM Toyota springs), then go with some OME 906 coils like I have or the PP springs for the rear. You can go the airbag route but it's a bit of a pain to inflate and deflate all the time unless you have the in-cab adjustment setup. Airbags should be thought of a supplemental (ie towing or really heavy loads) rather than the primary means of support.

What is your current measurement in the front from fender to ground?
What size tires are you running?
the ground wasn't completely level, but all 4 corners from ground to fender were around 33.25" and I'm running stock size 265/70/16 tires. I'm looking for a minimum amount of lift from aftermarket springs because I'm convincing my parents (I'm 20 years old you wouldn't think I'd have to) that this is an improvement to the stock ride and not a lift (I told him there would be some lift becuause my stock springs have sagged so much). Either way, I'm just looking for a minimal amount of lift that won't end up sagging in 2 years.
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'99 coils will take about 100k miles or more before they sag which is quite a long time. I had 100k on my original coils and really very minimal sag at all and here it is next to my '97 which had new '99 coils on it before I sold it.


New '99 coils and shocks

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I have a full set of 02 springs with 85,000 miles if any body can use them for $10 and the ups.
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Originally Posted by X-AWDriver
'99 coils will take about 100k miles or more before they sag which is quite a long time. I had 100k on my original coils and really very minimal sag at all and here it is next to my '97 which had new '99 coils on it before I sold it.
Yeah I'd say I do about 90-95% of my driving on road with the occasional very mild off road if i'm going camping (maybe 4 times a year). The only thing is, I have a subwoofer cabinet that i think weighs no more 75 lbs (probably closer to 50) and a lot of the times when we go places, me and the guys will load up and roll 5 deep in my vehicle. Maybe I should just make other people drive more
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Yeah,I rarely haul too much of anything and the only stuff in the back of mine is a small 10" sub and emergency supplies/off road stuff. I'm an intermediate trail off-roader and the coils are fine but another inch or so would be nice.
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My 99 coils I got 100K on them and they look to sit the same height as a co-worker who just got new ones installed in his 97. However when I installed bilsteins the front seemed to sit just a bit higher and this gets aggrevated by loaded the cargo area (why mentioned the airbags for the occassional trip). (The Bils are installed correctly but seems to let the front coild extend more making the front higher. It was easier to put together the front strut with bils compare to the compression on the OEM I took off. Maybe this is for its own thread).

Edit: btw, I noticed my bump stop is a lot smaller than then one in you image

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Originally Posted by Roadtripr
My 99 coils I got 100K on them and they look to sit the same height as a co-worker who just got new ones installed in his 97. However when I installed bilsteins the front seemed to sit just a bit higher and this gets aggrevated by loaded the cargo area (why mentioned the airbags for the occassional trip). (The Bils are installed correctly but seems to let the front coild extend more making the front higher. It was easier to put together the front strut with bils compare to the compression on the OEM I took off. Maybe this is for its own thread).

Edit: btw, I noticed my bump stop is a lot smaller than then one in you image
the 96-98 4runners had a different style one and they are currently under recall. The recall involves installing the same type of bumpstops that you have (shorter)
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aha I thought it was the cone bumpstops was what got replaced. Thanks for clarifying that.
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Originally Posted by TX2RUNNER1997
You think I should spend an extra 80 bucks and get the airlift helper springs in the back? Cause I've done some reading and it seems those rear springs have a tendency to sag. I have a sub cabinet in the back that mabe weighs 75 lbs...and a lot of times have the back loaded up and the back seat full of people...you think that would be a worthwhile investment?

Another solution you may consider is an Air adjust shocks like Gabriel Hi Jackers.
You can get a pair of them from an AutoZone for $62.00

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