STRANDED IN MOAB: 4th gen rear diff ring/pinion gear replacement

ahriman · 10-11-2004, 12:47 PM

hello all- i am needing to replace the ring and pinion gears in my rear diff (toyota 8") and need a couple favors done: 1) the shop is quoting me $275 parts and $300 labor, labor seems high to me...opinions? 2) since i am stranded in moab, can somebody locate these parts so I do not have to depend on these guys? '03 4runner sr5 4wd 8 cyl. i do not have the VIN # as the truck is in the shop now.

thanx much in advance

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bamachem · 10-11-2004, 12:50 PM

It's not covered by the warranty?

toyturbo · 10-11-2004, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahriman

hello all- i am needing to replace the ring and pinion gears in my rear diff (toyota 8") and need a couple favors done: 1) the shop is quoting me $275 parts and $300 labor, labor seems high to me...opinions? 2) since i am stranded in moab, can somebody locate these parts so I do not have to depend on these guys? '03 4runner sr5 4wd 8 cyl. i do not have the VIN # as the truck is in the shop now.

thanx much in advance

Hey,
Call me on my cell. Maybe I can help you from here.
I can run to toyota and possibly get parts shipped.
-Kyle

Good Times · 10-11-2004, 01:00 PM

Andy, he broke his gears on the trailhead in moab. Unfortunately the 3rd is already out sitting in the shop at Moab Offroad so hopefully it'll get fixed ASAP.

Mike, I'll give my toy dealer a call and see what I can do as well.

Robinhood150 · 10-11-2004, 01:03 PM

Gears are normally about $200 so considering where you are 275 might be ok.

bamachem · 10-11-2004, 01:04 PM

I realize that, but if he has AAA, then get a tow to the nearest road, call them and have a flatbed take it to a Toyota dealer and get it fixed for free. However, since the third is already pulled, then it's a moot point.

$300 is a touch high considering the third is already pulled, but you're also in a bit of a pinch. $200 would be more like it for a pulled third to pull the R/P and pull the bearings, then replace the ring and re-press the bearings.

Robinhood150 · 10-11-2004, 01:07 PM

Hey, since you're in there, you might as well have them throw in an ARB too!

ahriman · 10-11-2004, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robinhood150

Hey, since you're in there, you might as well have them throw in an ARB too!

got the ARB in -- the (bad) install is probably what broke the ring gear...

ahriman · 10-11-2004, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toyturbo

Hey,
Call me on my cell. Maybe I can help you from here.
I can run to toyota and possibly get parts shipped.
-Kyle

dead battery bro...that is why i am here! toyota of sc is 462.2400 i believe...

ahriman · 10-11-2004, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bamachem

I realize that, but if he has AAA, then get a tow to the nearest road, call them and have a flatbed take it to a Toyota dealer and get it fixed for free. However, since the third is already pulled, then it's a moot point.

$300 is a touch high considering the third is already pulled, but you're also in a bit of a pinch. $200 would be more like it for a pulled third to pull the R/P and pull the bearings, then replace the ring and re-press the bearings.

closest dealer is provo, ~200 miles away :pat:

ahriman · 10-11-2004, 01:13 PM

hey! whomever sticky-ed this thread, much thanx!!!

Robinhood150 · 10-11-2004, 01:20 PM

Who installed it?

ahriman · 10-11-2004, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robinhood150

Who installed it?

at this point i would rather not say until i talk directly w/them. i hope they do the right thing...

Good Times · 10-11-2004, 01:30 PM

One dealer quoted me 374.71 for just the gears (#41039.34080). They'll call me back on available on this part.

Keep ya posted.

ahriman · 10-11-2004, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Good Times

One dealer quoted me 374.71 for just the gears (#41039.34080). They'll call me back on available on this part.

Keep ya posted.

thanx lance, appreciate the effort!

toyturbo · 10-11-2004, 01:45 PM

Talk to toyota here. $750 and some change.
Talk about a mark-up.
-Kyle

Good Times · 10-11-2004, 01:50 PM

The socal warehouse has 2 gears in stock (only the gears).

Not sure exactly what you need so the prices might flux.

I have two different part numbers who prices for both:
41039.34080 $374.71
41201.80189 $746.89

I think Kyle is quoting the other part number.

I'd say go w/ whatever the shop is offering. Hopefully you'll be home wednesday.

ahriman · 10-11-2004, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toyturbo

Talk to toyota here. $750 and some change.
Talk about a mark-up.
-Kyle

yep, that is the quote i am getting. i think there is a difference between just the gears and the whole ring/pinion "kit." i am seeing quotes from $575-$750, and then from $275-$375 so the discrepency/difference is large enough for me to think there are two types of quotes happening -- lower range for just gears and higher range for full "kit."

ahriman · 10-11-2004, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Good Times

The socal warehouse has 2 gears in stock (only the gears).

Not sure exactly what you need so the prices might flux.

I have two different part numbers who prices for both:
41039.34080 $374.71
41201.80189 $746.89

I think Kyle is quoting the other part number.

I'd say go w/ whatever the shop is offering. Hopefully you'll be home wednesday.

hey lance- can you PM me w/the socal contact info?

toyturbo · 10-11-2004, 01:57 PM

After what I was Quoted, and what Lance found, I would make sure the shop is getting the right part. It sounds low now. I gave toyota the correct info for 03'/V8/8"
rear ring and pinion.
-Kyle

Biff · 10-11-2004, 03:14 PM

michael,

Dan, at American Toyota quoted me

Part# 41201.80189 for $560.17 price shipped. If you want overnight you'll have to pay more.

Flygtenstein · 10-11-2004, 03:39 PM

Mike, holy cow!

I was completely unaware that our suspicions were correct.

Even if you can get gears, you will have a long and slow trip home. The shop has you by the sack and there is not much of a way to get around that.

SEAN_at_TLT · 10-11-2004, 08:56 PM

This sucks!

any news???

bulldog-yota · 10-11-2004, 08:57 PM

Sorry to hear about this one. I'll see what my dealer has on offer tomorrow. Have you already got the new gear and pinion??
Can you rent a truck at uhaul or something and doilies to tow it back??

ahriman · 10-12-2004, 08:21 AM

ok, here is the poop: after 6 hours of pay phone time, i was able to locate the gears in georgia. they are overnighting them to moab and i will take them over to grand junction, co to get them installed (hopefully) under warranty. if not under warranty at least i will have the leverage of the dealership to go after the (alleged) bonehead that installed my locker (allegedly) incorrectly. lance found the part # 41201.80189, $634.89 was the price quoted to me (thanx victor, but dan at american did not have any in stock -- wish i could have gotten his pricing). with the ~$100.00 shipping and around $3-400 labor this has turned out to be one h3ll of an expen$ive trip! assuming, of course, warranty does not kick in and i somehow lose the court case with the locker installer...

thanx all for the love!

10-11-2004, 01:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
Good Times Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,693	Andy, he broke his gears on the trailhead in moab. Unfortunately the 3rd is already out sitting in the shop at Moab Offroad so hopefully it'll get fixed ASAP. Mike, I'll give my toy dealer a call and see what I can do as well. __________________ 2003 4runner SR5 4x4 Chaos Edition Chaos Edition! Operation Rebuild Chaos Edition Need to reach me or ask questions? You can find me here!

10-11-2004, 01:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
Robinhood150 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wandering around Phoenix Posts: 6,043	Gears are normally about $200 so considering where you are 275 might be ok. __________________ Steve. '93 4Runner V6 Auto 4x4 Robinhood's Lair. \|\| Gettin' Off 4wd Club member Lots for sale:5.29 ARB IFS third member... Click Sierra Club policy: [A reason to close trails] ...Physical soil damage, often readily visible, resulting in: a. Erosion, causing soil loss and damage to stream banks, streams, and fish habitat... Lesson...Stay on the TRAIL!

10-11-2004, 01:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
Robinhood150 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wandering around Phoenix Posts: 6,043	Hey, since you're in there, you might as well have them throw in an ARB too! __________________ Steve. '93 4Runner V6 Auto 4x4 Robinhood's Lair. \|\| Gettin' Off 4wd Club member Lots for sale:5.29 ARB IFS third member... Click Sierra Club policy: [A reason to close trails] ...Physical soil damage, often readily visible, resulting in: a. Erosion, causing soil loss and damage to stream banks, streams, and fish habitat... Lesson...Stay on the TRAIL!

10-11-2004, 01:13 PM	#11 (permalink)
ahriman Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: santa cruz, ca Posts: 519	hey! whomever sticky-ed this thread, much thanx!!! __________________ :\| michael \|::: black 03 4wd 4runner sr5 4.7L v8 [elevation]: 3" rev-tek lift w/nitrous enterprise custom spacer [] 1.5" roger brown body lift [motivation]: 285/75/16 firestone destination mts [] wheeler's offroad 16" steelies [] ARB rear locker [] AIM industries air compressor [protection]: stubbs deluxe sliders [] custom front bumper [] diff breather mod [blingaration]: really cool skull license plate frame w/red glowing eyes!

10-11-2004, 01:20 PM	#12 (permalink)
Robinhood150 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wandering around Phoenix Posts: 6,043	Who installed it? __________________ Steve. '93 4Runner V6 Auto 4x4 Robinhood's Lair. \|\| Gettin' Off 4wd Club member Lots for sale:5.29 ARB IFS third member... Click Sierra Club policy: [A reason to close trails] ...Physical soil damage, often readily visible, resulting in: a. Erosion, causing soil loss and damage to stream banks, streams, and fish habitat... Lesson...Stay on the TRAIL!

10-11-2004, 12:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
bamachem Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 0	It's not covered by the warranty?

10-11-2004, 01:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
bamachem Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 0	I realize that, but if he has AAA, then get a tow to the nearest road, call them and have a flatbed take it to a Toyota dealer and get it fixed for free. However, since the third is already pulled, then it's a moot point. $300 is a touch high considering the third is already pulled, but you're also in a bit of a pinch. $200 would be more like it for a pulled third to pull the R/P and pull the bearings, then replace the ring and re-press the bearings.

10-11-2004, 01:30 PM	#14 (permalink)
Good Times Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,693	One dealer quoted me 374.71 for just the gears (#41039.34080). They'll call me back on available on this part. Keep ya posted. __________________ 2003 4runner SR5 4x4 Chaos Edition Chaos Edition! Operation Rebuild Chaos Edition Need to reach me or ask questions? You can find me here!

10-11-2004, 01:45 PM	#16 (permalink)
toyturbo Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Insanity Cruz, CA Posts: 50	Talk to toyota here. $750 and some change. Talk about a mark-up. -Kyle

10-11-2004, 01:50 PM	#17 (permalink)
Good Times Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,693	The socal warehouse has 2 gears in stock (only the gears). Not sure exactly what you need so the prices might flux. I have two different part numbers who prices for both: 41039.34080 $374.71 41201.80189 $746.89 I think Kyle is quoting the other part number. I'd say go w/ whatever the shop is offering. Hopefully you'll be home wednesday. __________________ 2003 4runner SR5 4x4 Chaos Edition Chaos Edition! Operation Rebuild Chaos Edition Need to reach me or ask questions? You can find me here!

10-11-2004, 01:57 PM	#20 (permalink)
toyturbo Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Insanity Cruz, CA Posts: 50	After what I was Quoted, and what Lance found, I would make sure the shop is getting the right part. It sounds low now. I gave toyota the correct info for 03'/V8/8" rear ring and pinion. -Kyle

10-11-2004, 03:14 PM	#21 (permalink)
Biff Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 853	michael, Dan, at American Toyota quoted me Part# 41201.80189 for $560.17 price shipped. If you want overnight you'll have to pay more. __________________ Victor 03 4runner 94 Landcruiser

10-11-2004, 03:39 PM	#22 (permalink)
Flygtenstein Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 4,246	Mike, holy cow! I was completely unaware that our suspicions were correct. Even if you can get gears, you will have a long and slow trip home. The shop has you by the sack and there is not much of a way to get around that.

10-11-2004, 08:56 PM	#23 (permalink)
SEAN_at_TLT Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: USA Posts: 752	This sucks! any news??? __________________ -Sean Trails Less Traveled

10-11-2004, 08:57 PM	#24 (permalink)
bulldog-yota Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Morgan Hill, CA Posts: 1,876	Sorry to hear about this one. I'll see what my dealer has on offer tomorrow. Have you already got the new gear and pinion?? Can you rent a truck at uhaul or something and doilies to tow it back?? __________________ ___________________ ***andries*** 03 Pavement Princess 05 Mall Queen

10-12-2004, 08:21 AM	#25 (permalink)
ahriman Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: santa cruz, ca Posts: 519	ok, here is the poop: after 6 hours of pay phone time, i was able to locate the gears in georgia. they are overnighting them to moab and i will take them over to grand junction, co to get them installed (hopefully) under warranty. if not under warranty at least i will have the leverage of the dealership to go after the (alleged) bonehead that installed my locker (allegedly) incorrectly. lance found the part # 41201.80189, $634.89 was the price quoted to me (thanx victor, but dan at american did not have any in stock -- wish i could have gotten his pricing). with the ~$100.00 shipping and around $3-400 labor this has turned out to be one h3ll of an expen$ive trip! assuming, of course, warranty does not kick in and i somehow lose the court case with the locker installer... thanx all for the love! __________________ :\| michael \|::: black 03 4wd 4runner sr5 4.7L v8 [elevation]: 3" rev-tek lift w/nitrous enterprise custom spacer [] 1.5" roger brown body lift [motivation]: 285/75/16 firestone destination mts [] wheeler's offroad 16" steelies [] ARB rear locker [] AIM industries air compressor [protection]: stubbs deluxe sliders [] custom front bumper [] diff breather mod [blingaration]: really cool skull license plate frame w/red glowing eyes!

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