4x4Runner09

I just had the Performance Products 1inch lift springs put on my 2000 4Runner. It seems the rear tends to still sag a little. Or are the front springs really tall?? What is going here???

QSVeilside

They might have installed your front bilstein shock seats backwards.

Correct:
Curved side up / Flat side down

Incrorrect:
Curved side down / Flat side up

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...light=bilstein

4x4Runner09

Thanks for the response. BTW, I've the Bilsteins on my truck for 1 year now. The PP springs were put on about 2 weeks ago. I reasons I put the the PP springs were to get ride of the sag in the back but it still seems to sag a little bit.

If I were to post pictures could someone clarify if everything in installed correctly?

frodin1

This seems to be a common problem with the Bilsteins. Problem is that if you've had the Bils. on for a year, more than likely the seat for the spring has been damaged. Do you have any pics? You shouldn't be sagging with the PP springs they are designed to ride an inch higher than stock.

mjwalfredo

How in the heck do the shops let all these trucks out of the garage like this??? I mean is it really that much work to take the strut assemblies off and apart again?

4x4Runner09

Heres pics taken from today June 14.

Driver Front:






Passenger Front:












The Stance (cant really tell sag here)





BTW. Has anyone ever had a problem with one side being higher than the other (not front back, but driver passenger side)

Roadtripr

if for some reason you don't know what to look for then see these two pictures of silver/alu seat installed wrong and right (from the link above).

wrong way:
(not sure image shows) Coil seat will sit flat top up against spring and narrower rounded side down.
http://picasaweb.google.com/dilaar/S...21103501947746

right way:


The reason the get it wrong? Some shocks come with this seat fixed to the shock so the shope can't screw it up, two they don't read the manual and install it a way that looks fine.

4x4Runner09

Heres some pics of mine.

DUPLICATE!

4x4Runner09

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Roadtripr

So the coil/sping seats looks right to me. I have to say that when I added Bilsteins to my runner I felt the same way. That is the front might sit a bit higher than the rear. Seems to be normal or perhaps because the old shock was shut leading to a lower front.

The driver side might sit a little higher or lower as it has to compensate for gas tank etc located on that side of the vehicle. Not sure PP springs have color coding to designate which side they belong on (stock coils do)

frodin1

I have a different setup so I don't know for sure "spacers", but is the top of the coil sitting correctly? It just looks off compared to mine. Also, double check the bump stops in the back, people have been known to forgett to put them back in. It won't make a difference in height I don't think but it's just a thought?

QSVeilside

According to the pictures, as Roadtripr already mentioned, the springs are installed correctly.

Thoughts:

1. Are you only viewing the truck on your driveway - sitting on an incline? Any shots of the truck on level ground?

2. You can remove the tow hitch and that will lift the rear end some. Removing the spare will bring the rear up an inch. Don't know how often you use them or go offroading. Insurance companies usually offer free roadside assistance/towing. Removed mine a long time ago.

3. Another member's 2wd rig sat slightly higher in the front with the PP springs/bilstein setup as well, (but he also carries a TON of stuff in the rear - roofrack, tow hitch, ladder, spare, spoiler). Might just be the way it is with these.

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...oducts+springs

Skrillah

Theres quite a bit of stress on that CV axle...does that much lift require a diff drop? I didn't think that one inch or so would make that much of a difference!

frodin1

1" doesn't require a Diff drop. I've got a 2.5" spacer and I don't have a DD.

Skrillah

Oh ok, thats what I thought....must be that his wheel is cocked just a little.