Roof Rack/basket with Sunroof?

Mad Chemist · 03-19-2003, 11:40 AM

On my '98 4-runner, I have a sunroof, and do not have the factory roof-rack. I want to install a rack and gear basket up top, but it seems like alot of the racks that grab onto the edge of the door frame would end up placing the basket right over the sun roof, sort of defeats the purpose of having the sunroof. Any suggestions/alternatives? Does anyone manufacture baskets that would attach directly to the roof (not to an existing roof rack)?

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jacksonpt · 03-19-2003, 12:49 PM

Once upon a time I was in the exact same boat as you with my 96. Check out my website for all the stuff I did. I bought the factory roof rack rails from a toyota dealer, Thule feet and bars to give me a basic rack. Then I bought a basket and adapters to mount it to the thule bars. Then came the lights, lol.

Here's where I am now...

everyday setup

sports and recreation

wheeling (though I usually also have a tool box and my spare up top when wheeling)

Bob_98SR5 · 03-19-2003, 01:04 PM

Mad Chemist,

I've set up my Thule roof rack both ways: on the front above the moonroof and on the factory rails.

There are pros and cons to both. On the front, as you mentioned, it will limit your ability to use the moonroof. Not to mention, you and your passengers might hit your head on the end of the bars when entering the vehicle. After seeing my friend's wife do this to herself on my 4runner (despite my warnings to everyone to watch out), it was time to take them off and move them on the back. Another disavantage is that if you have a long ski/rocket box-type cargo box, it will stick over the windshield. The lift generated by this is not good for the box.

The advantage to this setup is that you will spend less to get this set up. The main additional cost of going this route is that you won't have to buy the factory rails. Also, the load bearing capacity is much higher. Finally, if theft is big in your area, it is much more difficult (notice i didnt say impossible) to remove them from your 4runner b/c the arms of the feet pad grab under the upper door sill.

REAR
If you decide to mount on the rear, you'll have to buy the factory rails or some similar system. Then youll have to buy the mounting feet that fit on the rails. The pros of this set up is that you wont have the overhang problem as I mentioned above. Also, it looks factory and it is much easier to move the rack system on the rails, should you need to reposition them.

Cons: it is absurd how easy it is to steal a system mounted this way. My friend who owns his own body shop demonstrated by taking a rubber mallet, whacking the ends of my bars and lifting them off. Sometimes he has to do this when people don't remove these systems and he has to work on their cars.

I'm sure I'm missing a few points, but for me, the best way to go is to buy the factory rails, buy a complete system that mounts on these rails, and then go from there. These things last forever so consider it an investment. I've had my Thule system for over 10 years now. 13 to be exact. I don't really have a problem w/ theft in my neighborhood and if someone steals it, so be it. What can you do?

You can buy all of this stuff on the cheap on eBay. Trust me, scour ebay b/f you go to REI or a specialty rack store.

Oh, and it was momentarily funny watching my friend's wife bonk her head on the endcap but watching her fall was not!

Bob

Mad Chemist · 03-19-2003, 01:28 PM

Thanks for the info guys!

Its funny seeing someone slip, fall, whack their head, etc., until you realize they are actually hurt! I got a great laugh watching my friend walk straight into a glass door just recently.

03-19-2003, 12:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
jacksonpt Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 2,753	Once upon a time I was in the exact same boat as you with my 96. Check out my website for all the stuff I did. I bought the factory roof rack rails from a toyota dealer, Thule feet and bars to give me a basic rack. Then I bought a basket and adapters to mount it to the thule bars. Then came the lights, lol. Here's where I am now... everyday setup sports and recreation wheeling (though I usually also have a tool box and my spare up top when wheeling) __________________ Jackson - My Site 96 SR5 4x4 - 33" MTs, open diffs, and 3.90s - LET'S ROCK! My runner has bee traded in sniff on an 06 SR5 long bed d-cab Tacoma. The tacoma is nice, but... sniff ... I'll update my site when I'm done grieving.

03-19-2003, 01:28 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mad Chemist Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 2,878	Thanks for the info guys! Its funny seeing someone slip, fall, whack their head, etc., until you realize they are actually hurt! I got a great laugh watching my friend walk straight into a glass door just recently. __________________ -David '98 4Runner: SAW/OME lift, TJM bumper, Warn M8000 winch, Hayden tranny cooler, Trail Carnage front and belly skid plates, PIAA fogs, Rock lights, 33" MT's on Tech1 Rockcrawler rims, Lars sway bar discos, Sonoran bumpstops and rear bumper, RB 1" body lift, Daystar front bumpstops '73 FJ40: 327 SBC, York, Dual Batteries, custom tire carrier, Corbeau Baja SS bucket seats, Bestop top. TLCA#14428

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Bob_98SR5 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,092	Mad Chemist, I've set up my Thule roof rack both ways: on the front above the moonroof and on the factory rails. There are pros and cons to both. On the front, as you mentioned, it will limit your ability to use the moonroof. Not to mention, you and your passengers might hit your head on the end of the bars when entering the vehicle. After seeing my friend's wife do this to herself on my 4runner (despite my warnings to everyone to watch out), it was time to take them off and move them on the back. Another disavantage is that if you have a long ski/rocket box-type cargo box, it will stick over the windshield. The lift generated by this is not good for the box. The advantage to this setup is that you will spend less to get this set up. The main additional cost of going this route is that you won't have to buy the factory rails. Also, the load bearing capacity is much higher. Finally, if theft is big in your area, it is much more difficult (notice i didnt say impossible) to remove them from your 4runner b/c the arms of the feet pad grab under the upper door sill. REAR If you decide to mount on the rear, you'll have to buy the factory rails or some similar system. Then youll have to buy the mounting feet that fit on the rails. The pros of this set up is that you wont have the overhang problem as I mentioned above. Also, it looks factory and it is much easier to move the rack system on the rails, should you need to reposition them. Cons: it is absurd how easy it is to steal a system mounted this way. My friend who owns his own body shop demonstrated by taking a rubber mallet, whacking the ends of my bars and lifting them off. Sometimes he has to do this when people don't remove these systems and he has to work on their cars. I'm sure I'm missing a few points, but for me, the best way to go is to buy the factory rails, buy a complete system that mounts on these rails, and then go from there. These things last forever so consider it an investment. I've had my Thule system for over 10 years now. 13 to be exact. I don't really have a problem w/ theft in my neighborhood and if someone steals it, so be it. What can you do? You can buy all of this stuff on the cheap on eBay. Trust me, scour ebay b/f you go to REI or a specialty rack store. Oh, and it was momentarily funny watching my friend's wife bonk her head on the endcap but watching her fall was not! Bob