RECALL - 01-04 Tacomas, 01-02 4Runners, 02-04 Sequoia/Tundra. Updated 7-27-05

Sparman · 05-17-2005, 01:00 PM

I just found this press release and thought you guys may be interested.

Link to article

I was hoping it was t-case related.....

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X-AWDriver · 05-17-2005, 01:30 PM

Nobody's perfect.

lee · 05-17-2005, 01:32 PM

"Ming-Jou Chen, a Toyota spokeswoman, said the company had confirmed six cases in which the condition existed in the suspension. There have been no injuries associated with the problems."

hey at least when toyota messes up, its in small numbers & no one dies. hahah.

thanks for posting this, as it effects me...

obscurotron · 05-17-2005, 01:36 PM

Hmm. My truck is lifted. I wonder if they're going to give me crap about that...

Grumpy_98 · 05-17-2005, 02:23 PM

Toyota Recalls Over 750,000 Trucks, SUVs;Suspension Flaws

DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
May 17, 2005 3:28 p.m.

WASHINGTON (AP)--Toyota Motor Corp. (TM), in one of its largest safety recalls ever, said Tuesday it is recalling more than 750,000 pickup trucks and sport utility vehicles because of problems with the front suspension that could hinder steering.

The company said the recall covers 774,856 vehicles in the U.S., including the 2001-2004 model years of the Tacoma, the 2001-2002 versions of the 4Runner and the 2002-2004 model years of the Tundra and Sequoia.

Toyota said the surface of a ball joint which connects to the front suspension may have been scratched when it was manufactured, which could lead to wear and tear over time.

Any excessive wear or looseness in the joint could force drivers to exert more effort when steering, allow the vehicle to drift and increase the amount of noise from the suspension.

Ming-Jou Chen, a Toyota spokeswoman, said the company had confirmed six cases in which the condition existed in the suspension. There have been no injuries associated with the problems.

Toyota said it planned to conduct a similar recall of the affected vehicles in Canada, Japan, Australia and other countries, but did not immediately have the number of vehicles that would be covered outside the U.S.

Chen said it was one of the largest recalls in company history.

In 1992, Toyota recalled about 550,000 Camrys from the 1987-1990 model years because of the potential for power door locks to malfunction and lock passengers out of or inside the vehicles.

In 2002, the company recalled nearly 400,000 subcompact and minicar vehicles exported to the U.S., Europe and Canada because of improperly designed brake fluid pipes.

In Tuesday's recall of trucks and SUVs, owners will be notified beginning in July and will be able to have the problem fixed at no cost, Chen said.

Paul H. · 05-17-2005, 04:36 PM

I heard the news say that the front tire may actaully buckle and collaspe(sp). Did they embelish abit?

4-RUNNIN' FREAK · 05-18-2005, 11:25 AM

Ugh. At least it's no like the fact that the rear doors could fall off of my friends Ford Focus, and the other 3 recalls she had in the last 2 years.

2001Millrunner · 05-18-2005, 01:09 PM

so do we receive this in mail or just goto a dealer and have them check/fix?

callmej75 · 05-18-2005, 01:24 PM

just saw it on the news...i'd say contact the dealer and see what they say. some of them are stupid tho...

4-RUNNIN' FREAK · 05-18-2005, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2001Millrunner

so do we receive this in mail or just goto a dealer and have them check/fix?

It said in one of the links, either this sticky link of the other one that is not a sticky that they will send out letters in July.

jc1kz · 05-18-2005, 01:30 PM

I went to the stealership this morning about this recall....(toyota of dallas) and was told that they don't have the vin numbers yet of the affected trucks that they won't get these vin numbers till mid july....and that toyota will mail the owners of the recall a letter and to bring that letter in for the fix........He went on to say that the newa media is just making it a big deal? does that sound right?

trd90toyota · 05-18-2005, 06:39 PM

Ok here is the deal...

I work at a Toyota dealership. We didn't find out about this until today (May 18th 2005). We do not know what cars it will effect. Toyota will contact you with a "SSB." When you get this notice in the mail, call you dealership and make an appoiment. From what I picked up from my regional leader, it affects people that do major wheeling.

The dealerships will not have any information on this until Toyota tells us. So please for the sake of the people at the dealership, please don't call us asking if your rig is one of them. We are overwhelmed with phone calls about this already.

Thank you! As soon as I get more information about this I'll post it.

trd90toyota · 05-18-2005, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul H.

I heard the news say that the front tire may actaully buckle and collaspe(sp). Did they embelish abit?

I don't know about that. I head that it might have to do with the upper ball joint. I'll post more soon.

jx94148 · 05-18-2005, 10:19 PM

Dave Letterman turned it into a top 10 list tonight. Not a very funny top 10 but still... OUCH.

It'll be interesting to see what reasons they come up with to deny recall benefits for anyone with any kind of lift or big tires... I'll stay tuned.

Post up your experiences when you go in for the free work.

Rivalred · 05-18-2005, 10:35 PM

"Were Gonna Die"

I bet all the GM/Chrylser/Ford Forums are having a field day with this recall... :cry:

Eh.... Recalls happen and I still think Toyota has had fewer than other manufacturers.... But this does bring up a solid point, is Toyota worrying about Quantity now instead of Quality?

Tacoclimber · 05-19-2005, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rivalred

"Were Gonna Die"

I bet all the GM/Chrylser/Ford Forums are having a field day with this recall... :cry:

Eh.... Recalls happen and I still think Toyota has had fewer than other manufacturers.... But this does bring up a solid point, is Toyota worrying about Quantity now instead of Quality?

I don't know, but think about HOW MANY vehicles Toyota produces...sooner or later, there's going to be something. Compare this with other manufacturers, and Toyota still comes out smelling pretty sweet, IMO. Maybe I'm being a bit "Pollyanna" about it, but I'm not too worried...

Tacotex · 05-19-2005, 07:32 AM

Does'nt sound like anything to be in a hurry about, though I do hope they don't grumble about my little 1" coil spacers. In any case, I think I'll put some more miles on it before I take it in. Maybe by then it will need realignment anyway

rugerm44 · 05-19-2005, 08:00 AM

Ford has a recal on the cruise control catching fire.Dodge has one on the ball joints failing.Im sure gm has one or two.When they made toyotas over seas they didnt have any recalls period!Im 43 and my first one was an 82 4x4.250,000 miles and It never saw a dealership after it left the lot.

Unhappy99 · 05-19-2005, 08:32 AM

Toyota no longer manufactures such quality as your 82 or my 87. They've learned they can manufacture crap and still sell it, because is says 'Toyota' on it.

And yes, expect to have this recall denied if you've over loaded the suspension by adding an extra cupholder.

mtnbkr · 05-19-2005, 08:47 AM

Puhlease, no recalls when made in Japan? Did you actually look or were you waiting for someone to take you by the hand? My last Toyota was made in Japan and it had several recalls (all minor and pointless since they were wear items). Recalls happen all the time, only the big ones get noticed.

Chris

KGnagey · 05-19-2005, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tacotex

Maybe by then it will need realignment anyway

I was wondering if the dealership will try and charge for the alignment, or just not do it at all. Hopefully the recall mentions an alignment after the work is complete. I will make it a point to make sure they do the alignment after messing with the suspension.

ScottyBean · 05-19-2005, 02:57 PM

Funny thought here.. do you guys ever think that they are recalling those truck not for what they say they are going to do, but in fact a bigger problem that they dont want to get into the papers...? the thing that they say there fixing is in fact not even getting touched. Which makes us think that toyota is very specific and picky about their vehicles... hmmm...

4-RUNNIN' FREAK · 05-19-2005, 03:15 PM

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/

Damn Conspiracies.

Unhappy99 · 05-19-2005, 03:22 PM

I was thinking this myself. Six found problems out of 700,000 vehicles certainly would not justify a recall, particularly with Toyota. I expect there is something else going on here that Toyota doesn't want to have leak out.

Case in point, they made several thousand 4Runners with defective fuel gauges and haven't recalled them yet, while Audi recalled all their defective fuel gauges citing its a safety issue. And if you don't think a lying fuel gauge is a safety issue, try running out of fuel doing 70 in rush hour traffic with no warning while the gauge reads 1/2 tank.

4-RUNNIN' FREAK · 05-19-2005, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unhappy99

1999 SR5....Another 'Certified' POS from Karl Malone Toyota

I looked around http://www.karlmalonetoyota.com/ and it didn't mention if it was "thee" Karl Malone. Is it?

Or is "thee" Karl Malone really Carl Malone with a "C"? I never watched any mainstream sports so I do not know. I just know he played basketball.

05-17-2005, 01:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
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05-17-2005, 02:23 PM	#5 (permalink)
Grumpy_98 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Pollock Pines, CA Posts: 31	Just in case the link goes stale Toyota Recalls Over 750,000 Trucks, SUVs;Suspension Flaws DOW JONES NEWSWIRES May 17, 2005 3:28 p.m. WASHINGTON (AP)--Toyota Motor Corp. (TM), in one of its largest safety recalls ever, said Tuesday it is recalling more than 750,000 pickup trucks and sport utility vehicles because of problems with the front suspension that could hinder steering. The company said the recall covers 774,856 vehicles in the U.S., including the 2001-2004 model years of the Tacoma, the 2001-2002 versions of the 4Runner and the 2002-2004 model years of the Tundra and Sequoia. Toyota said the surface of a ball joint which connects to the front suspension may have been scratched when it was manufactured, which could lead to wear and tear over time. Any excessive wear or looseness in the joint could force drivers to exert more effort when steering, allow the vehicle to drift and increase the amount of noise from the suspension. Ming-Jou Chen, a Toyota spokeswoman, said the company had confirmed six cases in which the condition existed in the suspension. There have been no injuries associated with the problems. Toyota said it planned to conduct a similar recall of the affected vehicles in Canada, Japan, Australia and other countries, but did not immediately have the number of vehicles that would be covered outside the U.S. Chen said it was one of the largest recalls in company history. In 1992, Toyota recalled about 550,000 Camrys from the 1987-1990 model years because of the potential for power door locks to malfunction and lock passengers out of or inside the vehicles. In 2002, the company recalled nearly 400,000 subcompact and minicar vehicles exported to the U.S., Europe and Canada because of improperly designed brake fluid pipes. In Tuesday's recall of trucks and SUVs, owners will be notified beginning in July and will be able to have the problem fixed at no cost, Chen said. __________________ '98 4Runner / SR-5 / 3.6 & 5-spd -- 290,000+ miles

05-18-2005, 11:25 AM	#7 (permalink)
4-RUNNIN' FREAK Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NNJ Posts: 3,951	Ugh. At least it's no like the fact that the rear doors could fall off of my friends Ford Focus, and the other 3 recalls she had in the last 2 years. __________________ '02 4Runner - '06 XRunner Breakdancing www.BadgeYourRide.com Check this out Multi-Touch Interaction Research http://mrl.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirtouch/ Highest Xmax 6.5" subwoofer made Total Posts: 32,218 (75.35 posts per day) [/center] [/color] Still A Neon

05-18-2005, 01:09 PM	#8 (permalink)
2001Millrunner Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lynnwood, WA Posts: 1,185	so do we receive this in mail or just goto a dealer and have them check/fix? __________________ 01 4runner 4x4 SE (stupid Cntr lock diff,VSC,TRAC) Stuff I've wasted my money on front/rear chicken fence clear corners Hella 500s Lexus HID PIAA LED bulbs ISR, Breather,DP Mod Amsoil filter husky cargo liner Cobra STX II SE badge Griot's stuff Alpine CDA-9815+Infinity Reference+12"Fosgate Punch/amp BFG A/T 32s Bilstein HD *Perforated Leather Seats...Buncha other stupid things "Uh....I dont know what I'm doing" -Ray http://community.webshots.com/user/ray0227

05-18-2005, 06:39 PM	#12 (permalink)
trd90toyota Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 435	Stop Calling!!!! Ok here is the deal... I work at a Toyota dealership. We didn't find out about this until today (May 18th 2005). We do not know what cars it will effect. Toyota will contact you with a "SSB." When you get this notice in the mail, call you dealership and make an appoiment. From what I picked up from my regional leader, it affects people that do major wheeling. The dealerships will not have any information on this until Toyota tells us. So please for the sake of the people at the dealership, please don't call us asking if your rig is one of them. We are overwhelmed with phone calls about this already. Thank you! As soon as I get more information about this I'll post it. __________________ 1985 TURBO 4Runner 22-RTE, 33x12.5R15 MT/R's, 1 Inch Shackles, Pro-Comp ES3000's, Trail Gear Sliders, 1 inch Wheel Spacers, FJ 62 Rotors, 87 Calipers, Cobra 18WX ST II, Custom K&N FIPK, Extended Diff Breathers, Custom Rear Swing-A-Way Bumper, Load Warrior with Hi-Lift, spare tire, 4 Hella 500's, 2 Pro Comp 55's for the rear, Addicted Off Road front bumper, Smittybuilt XC8, '00 Taco Rear End w/ E-Locker.

05-17-2005, 01:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
lee Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: boston, ma Posts: 6,756	"Ming-Jou Chen, a Toyota spokeswoman, said the company had confirmed six cases in which the condition existed in the suspension. There have been no injuries associated with the problems." hey at least when toyota messes up, its in small numbers & no one dies. hahah. thanks for posting this, as it effects me...

05-17-2005, 01:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
obscurotron Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 83	Hmm. My truck is lifted. I wonder if they're going to give me crap about that...

05-18-2005, 01:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
callmej75 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,932	just saw it on the news...i'd say contact the dealer and see what they say. some of them are stupid tho...

05-18-2005, 01:30 PM	#11 (permalink)
jc1kz Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: TX Posts: 310	I went to the stealership this morning about this recall....(toyota of dallas) and was told that they don't have the vin numbers yet of the affected trucks that they won't get these vin numbers till mid july....and that toyota will mail the owners of the recall a letter and to bring that letter in for the fix........He went on to say that the newa media is just making it a big deal? does that sound right?

05-18-2005, 10:19 PM	#14 (permalink)
jx94148 Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 2,617	Dave Letterman turned it into a top 10 list tonight. Not a very funny top 10 but still... OUCH. It'll be interesting to see what reasons they come up with to deny recall benefits for anyone with any kind of lift or big tires... I'll stay tuned. Post up your experiences when you go in for the free work.

05-18-2005, 10:35 PM	#15 (permalink)
Rivalred Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,390	"Were Gonna Die" I bet all the GM/Chrylser/Ford Forums are having a field day with this recall... :cry: Eh.... Recalls happen and I still think Toyota has had fewer than other manufacturers.... But this does bring up a solid point, is Toyota worrying about Quantity now instead of Quality? __________________ Traded in: 2005 Tacoma DC PreRunner SJ Package Silver Streak Mica Traded in: 2007 Camry LE Silver

05-19-2005, 07:32 AM	#17 (permalink)
Tacotex Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 193	Does'nt sound like anything to be in a hurry about, though I do hope they don't grumble about my little 1" coil spacers. In any case, I think I'll put some more miles on it before I take it in. Maybe by then it will need realignment anyway __________________ Pete '04 Taco TRD SR5 4x4 3.4L 5spd, Donahoe coilovers, custom Alcan springs & Bilstein 5100s, 16x8 steelies, deckplate mod, free alarm mod., 265/75/16 Nitto A/Ts. '07 4Runner SR5 4WD '08 Honda S2000 CR '98 4Runner SR5 3.4L auto, Bilstein HDs, 31x10.50 BFG ATs, airbox elbow mod. 250K+ & going strong. Totaled 3/20/09 (separated ball joint=crash)

05-19-2005, 08:00 AM	#18 (permalink)
rugerm44 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 233	Ford has a recal on the cruise control catching fire.Dodge has one on the ball joints failing.Im sure gm has one or two.When they made toyotas over seas they didnt have any recalls period!Im 43 and my first one was an 82 4x4.250,000 miles and It never saw a dealership after it left the lot.

05-19-2005, 08:32 AM	#19 (permalink)
Unhappy99 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 381	Toyota no longer manufactures such quality as your 82 or my 87. They've learned they can manufacture crap and still sell it, because is says 'Toyota' on it. And yes, expect to have this recall denied if you've over loaded the suspension by adding an extra cupholder. __________________ 03 Dodge Ram 2500 CTD...its amazing Ex: 1999 4Runner JT3HN86R1X0199261...Now somebody elses Karl Malone Toyota 'Certified' POS Legendary Toyota quality is exactly that: A thing of legend. Defective fuel gauge - 'Certified' Defective brake rotors - 'Certified' Defective axle seals - 'Certified' Defective heater diverter - 'Certified' etc. etc. etc.

05-19-2005, 08:47 AM	#20 (permalink)
mtnbkr Contributing Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 459	Puhlease, no recalls when made in Japan? Did you actually look or were you waiting for someone to take you by the hand? My last Toyota was made in Japan and it had several recalls (all minor and pointless since they were wear items). Recalls happen all the time, only the big ones get noticed. Chris

05-19-2005, 02:57 PM	#22 (permalink)
ScottyBean Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 58	Funny thought here.. do you guys ever think that they are recalling those truck not for what they say they are going to do, but in fact a bigger problem that they dont want to get into the papers...? the thing that they say there fixing is in fact not even getting touched. Which makes us think that toyota is very specific and picky about their vehicles... hmmm... __________________ 96 4 Runner Limited -- 3" Adj coilovers // OME 891's w/ 1.5" spacer // 2" RB BL // 285/75/r16 Kumho Venture MT's // Stock e-locker // Flowmaster SUV 50 series(THE best) // 2 12's // Gearing still unknown // K&N Air filter // Fat tip // No dumb stickers

05-19-2005, 03:15 PM	#23 (permalink)
4-RUNNIN' FREAK Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NNJ Posts: 3,951	http://www.abovetopsecret.com/ Damn Conspiracies. __________________ '02 4Runner - '06 XRunner Breakdancing www.BadgeYourRide.com Check this out Multi-Touch Interaction Research http://mrl.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirtouch/ Highest Xmax 6.5" subwoofer made Total Posts: 32,218 (75.35 posts per day) [/center] [/color] Still A Neon Last edited by 4-RUNNIN' FREAK; 05-19-2005 at 03:18 PM.

05-19-2005, 03:22 PM	#24 (permalink)
Unhappy99 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 381	I was thinking this myself. Six found problems out of 700,000 vehicles certainly would not justify a recall, particularly with Toyota. I expect there is something else going on here that Toyota doesn't want to have leak out. Case in point, they made several thousand 4Runners with defective fuel gauges and haven't recalled them yet, while Audi recalled all their defective fuel gauges citing its a safety issue. And if you don't think a lying fuel gauge is a safety issue, try running out of fuel doing 70 in rush hour traffic with no warning while the gauge reads 1/2 tank. __________________ 03 Dodge Ram 2500 CTD...its amazing Ex: 1999 4Runner JT3HN86R1X0199261...Now somebody elses Karl Malone Toyota 'Certified' POS Legendary Toyota quality is exactly that: A thing of legend. Defective fuel gauge - 'Certified' Defective brake rotors - 'Certified' Defective axle seals - 'Certified' Defective heater diverter - 'Certified' etc. etc. etc.

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