Re-lamped my 3rd gen. Runner w/ Plug-n-Play LED bulbs

Hilux Surf · 03-05-2005, 10:40 PM

It depends on your lens & reflectors, pnp LED bulbs can work great if you know how to choose them. Besides, more powerful models are coming out regularly, they will eventually catch up to 'high-performance' (bluish) incandescent bulbs.

My Runner's front is 2002 while its tail light harness is still 1998. Tail lights are TYC.

Below: Parking Light (white lens) = 194 (5x white wLED). Front Turn Signal (white lens) = 7440 (15x amber LED).

Below: Tail Light (red lens) = 7443 (15x red LED). Rear Turn Signal (red lens) = 7440 (15x red LED).

Below: Backup Light (white lens) = 7440 (15x white LED).

I will do the same for all the interior bulbs soon.

4-RUNNIN' FREAK · 03-05-2005, 10:42 PM

Looks nice and bright. What bulbs will you use for the interior? The xenon from the other thread or LED's?
EDIT: http://yotatech.com/showthread.php?t...ighlight=xenon

Hilux Surf · 03-06-2005, 08:16 AM

I will try to use LED for the interior too wherever I can. But I can imagine that for certain applications like those delayed-dimming interior lights, I'll need to stick w/ high-performance incandescents. So in the end I may get mixed for the interior & 100% LED & HID for the exterior.

Hilux Surf · 03-06-2005, 08:19 AM

BTW, this is what my 7440/7443 bulb looks like. Whether its red or amber or white, the housing is still clear so that's cool. Each has 9x LEDs shooting forward + 6x LEDs shooting sideways. As technology advances, they will manage to jam in even more diodes which translates into higher output.

Stegall984R · 03-06-2005, 08:34 AM

looks nice man !

Randomness · 03-06-2005, 09:32 AM

So where'd you get them?

Hilux Surf · 03-06-2005, 09:05 PM

I sell 'em via my automotive site: http://www.sigmaauto.com/lighting/main.php .

I plan to shoot a daytime video to show how they perform *during the day*. If there's enough interest here, I can organize a group-buy and offer everyone discounts. Let me know please.

ATP4984 · 03-06-2005, 09:50 PM

I'm such a nerd, LEDs are like my only mod. I guess its because they're really easy. Right now, I'm looking into the parking light/turn signal mod. I'm looking to get 1157 LED lamps that have 18 superwhite forward facing diodes, and 6 amber side facing diodes. Ever heard of something like that?

98_YOTA · 03-06-2005, 10:37 PM

Looks good!!

96LtdYota · 03-06-2005, 10:47 PM

yeah, looks really cool

Hilux Surf · 03-06-2005, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATP4984

I'm such a nerd, LEDs are like my only mod. I guess its because they're really easy. Right now, I'm looking into the parking light/turn signal mod. I'm looking to get 1157 LED lamps that have 18 superwhite forward facing diodes, and 6 amber side facing diodes. Ever heard of something like that?

I know exactly what you are looking for:

But wait, I answered a lil' too quick, you want a mixed of 2 different LED colors? Nope, I have never encountered anything like that and may I ask why you want to mix colors? What color of lens is this 1157 going into? Clear lens?

ATP4984 · 03-06-2005, 11:17 PM

Just the standard 2nd gen parking light lenses. I'm going to cut out the stock socket and wire it to be a signal as well. I just thought the two colors would look sweet from straight on, white light with amber reflector. Probably not going to happen.

Edited for horrible English.

MTL_4runner · 03-07-2005, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATP4984

Just the standard 2nd gen parking light lenses. I'm going to cut out the stock socket and wire it to be a signal as well. I just thought the two colors would look sweet from straight on, white light with amber reflector. Probably not going to happen.

Edited for horrible English.

I doubt something like that will come out....most are only looking for solid colors.
The superwhite LEDs are quite new (I think within 4-5 years) so the intensity should increase over time with engineering design.
Best part is they are super bright, use less power and last practically forever if you don't run at too high a voltage.
Only thing I doubt they will replace will be the headlights, but you never know.

Hilux Surf · 03-07-2005, 09:06 PM

LEDs light the way for new car headlamp designs

Randomness · 03-07-2005, 09:49 PM

I was just gonna post that about the Audi headlamps

MTL_4runner · 03-08-2005, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hilux Surf

LEDs light the way for new car headlamp designs

Are there any direct replacements for headlight bulbs that put out more light than a HID system or even a standard high output bulb?

If you re-enigneer the whole thing, sure you could do almost anything.
I doubt it has current mainstream potential like the other LED replacements you are selling.
This doesn't mean it can't come later.

Look at the footprint of this thing (and it put out about as much as a standard 30W bulb):
http://www.luxeonstar.com/item.php?i...rtno=LXHL-MWJA

I think they may eventually get it if they go integrated LEDs, but manufacturing costs will go up dramatically as a direct result of it (look how expensive plasma and LCD TVs were when they came out)....then more you integrate, the more rejects you get because of it (until you have improved the manufacturing to begin reducing this number).

It is really the power efficiency of the LED which makes the technology so promising.

Hilux Surf · 03-08-2005, 10:20 AM

Hey Ryan, sorry that I beat you to it.

To Jamie, at this time, nothing beats the intensive output of HID headlights, but like you said, it is just a matter of time when LED headlights will replace HID ones. Actually high-intensity LED diodes (eg: Luxeon) also create heat problem. This and the fact that HID + the proper projector enables a super sharp cut-off line which is so attractive to many, HID will sure remain as the optimal choice for headlamps for many years to come.

X-AWDriver · 03-08-2005, 10:36 AM

So,how much would it run to do the tails,corners unluding the doo-hickies that fool your Runner into not thinking the lights aren't burned out?

Hilux Surf · 03-08-2005, 10:50 AM

These videos were filmed during day time, they give you a better idea of how these plug-n-play LED bulbs perform. Still photos can be decieving esp. when I snapped those pics. at night time. You may view these w/ QuickTime or WindowsMediaPlayer.

~ 1st video shows the front turn signal blinking from a clear lens. Each bulb uses 15x amber LED diodes. Bulb body is clear so nothing shows when it is off.

Front Turn Signal LED bulb - 4.69MB AVI format

~ 2nd video shows the TYC tail lights with all 3 LED bulbs (signal, back-up, parking) on.

Rear Tail Light LED bulbs - 2.79MB AVI format

Please note that LED bulbs don't always work well, if you have diffused (ie: translucent) lens covers or non-glossy reflector surfaces, they won't work too well. You should probably stick w/ high-performance incandescents like POLARG / RAYBRIG.

03-05-2005, 10:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
Hilux Surf Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 95	Re-lamped my 3rd gen. Runner w/ Plug-n-Play LED bulbs It depends on your lens & reflectors, pnp LED bulbs can work great if you know how to choose them. Besides, more powerful models are coming out regularly, they will eventually catch up to 'high-performance' (bluish) incandescent bulbs. My Runner's front is 2002 while its tail light harness is still 1998. Tail lights are TYC. Below: Parking Light (white lens) = 194 (5x white wLED). Front Turn Signal (white lens) = 7440 (15x amber LED). Below: Tail Light (red lens) = 7443 (15x red LED). Rear Turn Signal (red lens) = 7440 (15x red LED). Below: Backup Light (white lens) = 7440 (15x white LED). I will do the same for all the interior bulbs soon. __________________ → Re-lamp your 4Runner w/ H4 Fatboy \| 9005 HIR \| 9006 HIR \| LED earthority.com - earth-conscious news + earth-friendly gear

03-05-2005, 10:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
4-RUNNIN' FREAK Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NNJ Posts: 3,941	Looks nice and bright. What bulbs will you use for the interior? The xenon from the other thread or LED's? EDIT: http://yotatech.com/showthread.php?t...ighlight=xenon __________________ '02 4Runner - '06 XRunner Breakdancing www.BadgeYourRide.com Check this out Multi-Touch Interaction Research http://mrl.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirtouch/ Highest Xmax 6.5" subwoofer made Total Posts: 32,218 (75.35 posts per day) [/center] [/color] Still A Neon Last edited by 4-RUNNIN' FREAK : 03-05-2005 at 10:43 PM.

03-06-2005, 08:16 AM	#3 (permalink)
Hilux Surf Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 95	I will try to use LED for the interior too wherever I can. But I can imagine that for certain applications like those delayed-dimming interior lights, I'll need to stick w/ high-performance incandescents. So in the end I may get mixed for the interior & 100% LED & HID for the exterior. __________________ → Re-lamp your 4Runner w/ H4 Fatboy \| 9005 HIR \| 9006 HIR \| LED earthority.com - earth-conscious news + earth-friendly gear

03-06-2005, 08:19 AM	#4 (permalink)
Hilux Surf Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 95	BTW, this is what my 7440/7443 bulb looks like. Whether its red or amber or white, the housing is still clear so that's cool. Each has 9x LEDs shooting forward + 6x LEDs shooting sideways. As technology advances, they will manage to jam in even more diodes which translates into higher output. __________________ → Re-lamp your 4Runner w/ H4 Fatboy \| 9005 HIR \| 9006 HIR \| LED earthority.com - earth-conscious news + earth-friendly gear

03-06-2005, 09:32 AM	#6 (permalink)
Randomness Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sammamish, WA Posts: 1,385	So where'd you get them? __________________ 95 3.slow SR5 4runner 160K miles \| 32's \| OME \| Optima \| Husky \| dechromed \| ryan \| My Photography Blog

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03-06-2005, 09:05 PM	#7 (permalink)
Hilux Surf Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 95	I sell 'em via my automotive site: http://www.sigmaauto.com/lighting/main.php . I plan to shoot a daytime video to show how they perform during the day. If there's enough interest here, I can organize a group-buy and offer everyone discounts. Let me know please. __________________ → Re-lamp your 4Runner w/ H4 Fatboy \| 9005 HIR \| 9006 HIR \| LED earthority.com - earth-conscious news + earth-friendly gear

03-06-2005, 09:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
ATP4984 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 69	I'm such a nerd, LEDs are like my only mod. I guess its because they're really easy. Right now, I'm looking into the parking light/turn signal mod. I'm looking to get 1157 LED lamps that have 18 superwhite forward facing diodes, and 6 amber side facing diodes. Ever heard of something like that?

03-06-2005, 10:37 PM	#9 (permalink)
98_YOTA Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: WA Posts: 68	Looks good!!

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03-06-2005, 11:17 PM	#12 (permalink)
ATP4984 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 69	Just the standard 2nd gen parking light lenses. I'm going to cut out the stock socket and wire it to be a signal as well. I just thought the two colors would look sweet from straight on, white light with amber reflector. Probably not going to happen. Edited for horrible English. Last edited by ATP4984 : 03-06-2005 at 11:29 PM.

03-07-2005, 09:06 PM	#14 (permalink)
Hilux Surf Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 95	Audi LED headlamp LEDs light the way for new car headlamp designs __________________ → Re-lamp your 4Runner w/ H4 Fatboy \| 9005 HIR \| 9006 HIR \| LED earthority.com - earth-conscious news + earth-friendly gear Last edited by Hilux Surf : 03-07-2005 at 09:12 PM.

03-07-2005, 09:49 PM	#15 (permalink)
Randomness Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sammamish, WA Posts: 1,385	I was just gonna post that about the Audi headlamps __________________ 95 3.slow SR5 4runner 160K miles \| 32's \| OME \| Optima \| Husky \| dechromed \| ryan \| My Photography Blog

03-08-2005, 10:20 AM	#17 (permalink)
Hilux Surf Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 95	Hey Ryan, sorry that I beat you to it. To Jamie, at this time, nothing beats the intensive output of HID headlights, but like you said, it is just a matter of time when LED headlights will replace HID ones. Actually high-intensity LED diodes (eg: Luxeon) also create heat problem. This and the fact that HID + the proper projector enables a super sharp cut-off line which is so attractive to many, HID will sure remain as the optimal choice for headlamps for many years to come. __________________ → Re-lamp your 4Runner w/ H4 Fatboy \| 9005 HIR \| 9006 HIR \| LED earthority.com - earth-conscious news + earth-friendly gear Last edited by Hilux Surf : 03-08-2005 at 11:09 AM.

03-08-2005, 10:36 AM	#18 (permalink)
X-AWDriver Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton,CO Posts: 9,501	So,how much would it run to do the tails,corners unluding the doo-hickies that fool your Runner into not thinking the lights aren't burned out? __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander 4wd E-locker,rear diff and deckplate mod * 265/75/16 Nitto TerraGrapplers * Yakima Load Warrior rack * clear corners/signals * Tacoma skidplate * Silverstar lamps/fogs Alpine CDA-9831,Bazooka EL Series 250w amp,MTX 10" sub

03-08-2005, 10:50 AM	#19 (permalink)
Hilux Surf Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 95	Daytime video of plug-n-play LED bulbs for 3rd gen. 4R These videos were filmed during day time, they give you a better idea of how these plug-n-play LED bulbs perform. Still photos can be decieving esp. when I snapped those pics. at night time. You may view these w/ QuickTime or WindowsMediaPlayer. ~ 1st video shows the front turn signal blinking from a clear lens. Each bulb uses 15x amber LED diodes. Bulb body is clear so nothing shows when it is off. Front Turn Signal LED bulb - 4.69MB AVI format ~ 2nd video shows the TYC tail lights with all 3 LED bulbs (signal, back-up, parking) on. Rear Tail Light LED bulbs - 2.79MB AVI format Please note that LED bulbs don't always work well, if you have diffused (ie: translucent) lens covers or non-glossy reflector surfaces, they won't work too well. You should probably stick w/ high-performance incandescents like POLARG / RAYBRIG. __________________ → Re-lamp your 4Runner w/ H4 Fatboy \| 9005 HIR \| 9006 HIR \| LED earthority.com - earth-conscious news + earth-friendly gear