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Old 07-29-2003, 07:07 AM
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perma-cool vs. TRD tranny cooler

I'm about due for the 60,000 mile tune and thought it would be a good idea to have a transmission cooler installed. Every S/C guru on this board recommends it at least.

My question is should I pony up for a TRD? I don't race, hardly ever tow or go off-road (:chicken.

Seems like the medium duty perma-cool from Performance Products might be the way to go. For $40 bucks, seems like a deal compared to over $200 for the TRD.

Any suggestions or advice is much appreciated.
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With the TRD tranny cooler, you're paying $150+ for a fancy mounting bracket.

The Perma-cool style I believe is the tube and fin type, OK but not the best.

They way to go is to order a Hayden Transaver Plus stacked plate style cooler. Its rumored that Hayden manufactures the TRD coolers anyway, just not sure if that's confirmed.

I ordered one from Makco Distributing and just installed it this past saturday. I went with model 1678, heavy duty.
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Hayden, stack plate, I have the 30k cooler installed http://www.dcflags.com/MM001.ASP?pageno=84 After talking to Hayden, Level 10 and Amsoil, I found that it's pretty hard to over-cool ATF, particularly Synthetic ATF. You want the coolest possible AFT returning to the A/T. Easy install. One tip, go find some 3/8 ATF hose, and make sure it's ATF rated. The 11/32 that ships with the Hayden is REAL tough to get on the Toyota 3/8 fittings...save yourself a busted knuckle or two!

Measure the available areas on your truck to see which size will work for you. I ended up mounting mine upside down to clear the hood latch! Made for a long hose run!
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The cheeper one should be fine, i you really think you need one. The temp in the high country is usually under 80 but I guess the traffic on King Street can make any tranny hot.
Do you live in Banner Elk and Teach at Lees McRea?
Old 07-29-2003, 07:24 AM
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Keep the advice coming on the cooler. I'll definitely look into the Hayden. Any idea on costs?

Hyperlite - yes to both of your questions

We should get ssbogger, you and me together sometime (and any other wnc folks).
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Mine was $51 shipped.
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Originally posted by mgspann

Hyperlite - yes to both of your questions
We should get ssbogger, you and me together sometime (and any other wnc folks).
I graduated last December in business and have talked to you about your S/C. I knew by looking at those fog lights. When
Iwas there drove a black 97 4Runner
I live on Lake Norman Now, not bad for a LMC grad. Some WNC trails to go to are Tellico, the Globe and Westbowl (4ROC hopefully will orginize a trail run there soon)
This week I will probible order the cheep tranny cooler and a temp guage at the same time, kill 2 birds w/ same stone.
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I agree with mertztr & tomstin. I also bought mine at http://www.dcflags.com/MM001.ASP?pageno=84

I also have the 30,000 lb. cooler model #DC1679...$51.91

They shipped very fast and install was pretty easy. I followed the write-up from the tech section. You can't beat the price and quality.

I have a ton of TRD items on my Runner, but the trans cooler is waaay over priced. They charge upwards of $200 for what is actually a Hayden cooler that still isn't as big as my $51 Hayden cooler from the site above. It was a tough decision for me. Spend $200 and get a cool looking TRD box or save $150 and get an even better one....Hmmmmm. The stacked plate coolers are the way to go. The one from PP isn't as good. I went with the biggest I could get with living in Phoenix and having a s/c. I figure it doesn't hurt.

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I'm convinced, Hayden it is.

Hey PFDAXE - your runner is one, if not, my favorite on the board. FWIW - cool truck!

Hyperlite - I remember. Congrats on the cool lake living. Do you know Jeff Gordon or Dale Jarret??

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Thanks mgspann:

I don't think you can go wrong with the Hayden and can't overkill with purchasing a cooler. Your tranny will love you for it. Be sure to read the install write up as this helped alot.

https://www.yotatech.com/~corey/tech...ler/cooler.htm

http://www.hboss.net/4runner/tranny-cooler-install.htm


Let us know how the install goes. Remember to add more fluid as you'll need some extra.

Paul
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