Performance Products 1" lift kit

tony_4runner · 06-22-2007, 02:56 PM

So here I am calling Performance Products today and them telling me that they don't have the progressive springs, 1" lift, for a 1999 4-Runner. I am talking about the H&R ones. Their latest catalog on Pg. 26 says they have springs for 4Runners 1990-2002, and the website shows part #109922 for 1999. The guy on the phone swears they don't have them, and does not seem to care that the catalog and website shows otherwise. Are they idiots? or they really do not have them? if any of you have purchased this kit can you tell me the part number, if any? Frustrating to say the least.

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SOAZtim · 06-22-2007, 03:47 PM

they were bought out by 4wheelparts which is widely known as the worst company in the world. They have them though, maybe not in stock, but they do.

Skrillah · 06-22-2007, 04:09 PM

Why is 4wheelparts so bad?

X-AWDriver · 06-22-2007, 05:23 PM

Try shox.com ,they have 'em for $300.

ooja3k · 06-24-2007, 09:32 AM

shox gets theirs from PP...

i had this issue last week.

i called shox.com to make sure they had them and he told me that he would call PP because they go through them... the guy from shox.com said the guy from pp said that they didn't have them in stock and it would be 4-6 weeks before they did...

so i called PP and talked to a guy their who said they DID have them...

so i place the order...

the next day i wanted to make sure they had shipped but they haddn't....

i called the same guy up and he said that my order is all ready to go, ups just hadn't picked it up yet... so he said he would place it on their table and get it out for me withing the next hour...

well... 10 minutes pass and he calls me back saying that there was a reason they hadn't gone out yet... they ran out of the rear coils... they had the front ones, but not the rears....

he said it would be a couple weeks before they had them again so i just cancelled my order...

i still got the tokico trekmasters though from shox.com.....

my car has been at the beach for 10 years.... so when i went to install them, the front struts were soo much of a pain that i took it to a shop to have them do all 4 for 150 with alignment...

well he calls be up saying that in order to do it, they were going to have to break the 3 bolts on both sides that hold the top of the strut in... and replace the cap that holds the spring down onto the strut...

so those parts are special order and he can't get them for a couple days...

this is turning into a much bigger project then i had anticipated....
but with 135000 miles on my stock shocks... it should be worth it...

wow that was long..

Skrillah · 06-24-2007, 12:02 PM

What a mess...I haven't always been impressed with performance products...they've sent me some things broken before and it took 2 months before I got the part I had originally ordered.

I may just go with OME 906's and 881's....tired of waiting for PP and I think OME is a more trustworthy coil anyhow. That is, they've always been highly regarded around here on YT.

tony_4runner · 06-24-2007, 09:35 PM

but OME's is a 2" lift, right? I felt that I did not wanted more than 1". Maybe I should change my mind and go with OME.

gpcollen1 · 06-25-2007, 06:20 AM

It seems as the PP Springs are out of stock often enough. I waited for a few months for mine to come in. No big deal. If you are in a ruch, try a different spring...

Skrillah · 06-25-2007, 07:50 AM

The PP's will probably give you more than just an 1" of lift, searching on here has shown me that people are getting closer to 2". It depends on your current setup and what year you have. For example, your 99 will probably only get an 1" or a little more whereas my 97 4x4 would probably get a good 2" of lift. Again, it depends on how worn your current setup is, etc.

Check out 4x4connection.com, look at the medium duty OME 906 coils for the rear and the medium duty OME 881 for the front. Most people on here have said they recieved about 2" in the rear and 1.25-1.50" up front, but again it will vary and I'm not sure since the 99's sit higher from factory anyhow.

X-AWDriver · 06-25-2007, 07:55 AM

You still should get close to another inch over the '99 coils easily.

SOAZtim · 06-26-2007, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skrillah

Why is 4wheelparts so bad?

Sorry, didn't see this one. I've had to deal with them on the ordering side, billing etc working for an offroad shop. I've see the trucks come to the shop I worked at that were installed at one of their shops. I've also dealt with them as a normal customer.
They have the worst customer service, employees, and do lousy work in all of my personal and professional experiences.
Definately a company always looking for a quick buck, not a company of enthusiests or educated people.

frodin1 · 06-26-2007, 04:05 PM

I ordered those springs and had them delivered in 4 days. I guess I shouldn't have sent them back. Also, have never had had issues with 4WP. I bought 4 Procomp 1079's+ lugs, 4 - 285- BFG A/T's, Daystar 2.5 inch spacer lift, aligned & installed for $1200 out the door. Not bad in my opinoin.

wormhole · 06-26-2007, 09:17 PM

Sorry, I'm going to thread jack for second but all of these stuff just confuses that crap out of me. Reading back and forth about ome and other such things my head hurts (I been reading for the past few days)

. I'm getting ready to replace my shocks (160,xx) on the orignals and I fiqured to replace my springs/coils at the same time.
Would I go wrong with just getting the 99 4runner coils. I'm not looking for much of a lift at the moment just better than what I have until the $$ flow is a little better.
Thinking of the tokico trekmaster shocks or the bilstein 5100 w/the 99 springs/coils.
Sorry, for the thread jack again but I need help (yes I've searched).

96 4runner 4x4

frodin1 · 06-26-2007, 10:09 PM

Check out http://www.sonoransteel.com/ This will tell you everything about 99 coils. And other options that could be a possibility to go with.

frodin1 · 06-26-2007, 10:16 PM

BEtter yet : The 3rd Gen 4Runner was introduced in 1996 and apparently Toyota was not pleased with the original front coils as they were changed for the 1997 model year even though no significant changes were made to the 4Runner. These coils ran from 1997 to 1998. In 1999 Toyota added the extra crush zone up front and the fat lip front bumper to facilitate it. Things were good and the 1999 4Runner sat higher than any 3rd Gen 4Runner to date. At the same time the Ford Explorer/Firestone Tire blowout/rollover media blitz hit. Toyota reacted by yanking the 2000 model year down lower mid production very early in the 2000 model years run. The 2001 and the 2002 are without a doubt the "Low Rider" 4Runners. This kit takes the best the factory had to offer in 1999 and applies it to every 4Runner from 1996 to 2002, 2WD and 4WD. The 2WD trucks will go up 2" from where they sat new and 4WD trucks will go up 1" from where they sat new. Does every 1999 have these magic coils? No way, only a few did and the chances of finding them in a junk yard is possible but, it is very slim that you find a 1999 and only a 1999 with the specific options factory installed, not dealer installed.

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Spanky · 06-26-2007, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skrillah

Why is 4wheelparts so bad?

dont get me started

tony_4runner · 06-28-2007, 08:10 AM

Yesterday I checked PP's website again and did not find the 1" lift kit for the 99 Runner, p/n 109922. They had it last Friday. Maybe they are discontinuing the product....

4x4Runner09 · 06-28-2007, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony_4runner

Yesterday I checked PP's website again and did not find the 1" lift kit for the 99 Runner, p/n 109922. They had it last Friday. Maybe they are discontinuing the product....

I would be surprised if they discontinued the coils. I just ordered a set of 4 last month. These coils are simply awesome!!

Gt4r97 · 06-28-2007, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony_4runner

Yesterday I checked PP's website again and did not find the 1" lift kit for the 99 Runner, p/n 109922. They had it last Friday. Maybe they are discontinuing the product....

This is what I did - when you select your Vehicle, just put Toyota,1997/1998, 4Runner. Don't Select 1999 for year, or the Limited trim. Just choose 4Runner. I don't really understand why?!? Anyway, here's the Link: http://www.performanceproducts4truck...es.aspx?cid=19.

tony_4runner · 06-28-2007, 12:04 PM

yeap! thanks! If I chose 1999 4-Runner I get the 109922 coils, but if I chose the SR5 it does not show. Another proof of bad management!

Now, as for the Bilstein shocks, are the shocks I need heavy-duty stock height? the 103628 and 103627?

06-22-2007, 03:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
SOAZtim Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Snobsdale, SOuthern AriZona. Posts: 807	they were bought out by 4wheelparts which is widely known as the worst company in the world. They have them though, maybe not in stock, but they do. __________________ 2001 4runner. 255/85/16 BFG KM, A-trac/VSC disable switch. DR coilovers. OME rear springs with bilsteins, 4.88 gears with ARB lockers. Waeco CF-50 fridge. Home made sleeping platform with drawers. Home made rear bumper. Home made sliders. Blue sea fuse box. ICV8000 Icom 2meter. Uniden CB in ashtray. Donaldson Top Spin pre-filter with home made snorkel. TJM front bumper with m8000 and syn line. Baja Rack Mega Mule roof rack. Lowrance. 7" hid's. Lots of scratches. www.soaztim.com

06-22-2007, 04:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
Skrillah Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bloomington,Indiana Posts: 859	Why is 4wheelparts so bad? __________________ 1997 Toyota 4runner 4x4, 2.7L, Auto, 146k miles, KC Slimlites, Bilsteins, OME 881/890s, Custom Westin Push Bar, Brembo/Hawk Pads, Yakima Gear, Midland CB, 265/75/16 Bridgestone Revos, Limited 5-spoke rims (Custom),Herculined Rocker Panels, Diff. Breather mod,Deckplate mod,4.56 gearing, Pioneer head unit w/Ipod connection and Sirius Sat. Radio.

06-22-2007, 05:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
X-AWDriver Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton,CO Posts: 10,177	Try shox.com ,they have 'em for $300. __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander 4wd E-locker,rear diff and deckplate mod * 265/75/16 Nitto TerraGrapplers * Yakima Load Warrior rack * clear corners/signals * Tacoma skidplate * Silverstar lamps/fogs Alpine CDA-9831,Bazooka EL Series 250w amp,MTX 10" sub

06-24-2007, 12:02 PM	#6 (permalink)
Skrillah Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bloomington,Indiana Posts: 859	What a mess...I haven't always been impressed with performance products...they've sent me some things broken before and it took 2 months before I got the part I had originally ordered. I may just go with OME 906's and 881's....tired of waiting for PP and I think OME is a more trustworthy coil anyhow. That is, they've always been highly regarded around here on YT. __________________ 1997 Toyota 4runner 4x4, 2.7L, Auto, 146k miles, KC Slimlites, Bilsteins, OME 881/890s, Custom Westin Push Bar, Brembo/Hawk Pads, Yakima Gear, Midland CB, 265/75/16 Bridgestone Revos, Limited 5-spoke rims (Custom),Herculined Rocker Panels, Diff. Breather mod,Deckplate mod,4.56 gearing, Pioneer head unit w/Ipod connection and Sirius Sat. Radio.

06-24-2007, 09:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
tony_4runner Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 63	but OME's is a 2" lift, right? I felt that I did not wanted more than 1". Maybe I should change my mind and go with OME. __________________ Now: 1999 5-Speed SR5 4Runner Before: 1994 5-Speed SR5 4Runner Then (in Venezuela): 1987 Land Cruiser FJ70 1979 Land Cruiser FJ40 Dad: 1983 Land Cruiser FJ60

06-24-2007, 09:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
ooja3k Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Orange County Posts: 10	shox gets theirs from PP... i had this issue last week. i called shox.com to make sure they had them and he told me that he would call PP because they go through them... the guy from shox.com said the guy from pp said that they didn't have them in stock and it would be 4-6 weeks before they did... so i called PP and talked to a guy their who said they DID have them... so i place the order... the next day i wanted to make sure they had shipped but they haddn't.... i called the same guy up and he said that my order is all ready to go, ups just hadn't picked it up yet... so he said he would place it on their table and get it out for me withing the next hour... well... 10 minutes pass and he calls me back saying that there was a reason they hadn't gone out yet... they ran out of the rear coils... they had the front ones, but not the rears.... he said it would be a couple weeks before they had them again so i just cancelled my order... i still got the tokico trekmasters though from shox.com..... my car has been at the beach for 10 years.... so when i went to install them, the front struts were soo much of a pain that i took it to a shop to have them do all 4 for 150 with alignment... well he calls be up saying that in order to do it, they were going to have to break the 3 bolts on both sides that hold the top of the strut in... and replace the cap that holds the spring down onto the strut... so those parts are special order and he can't get them for a couple days... this is turning into a much bigger project then i had anticipated.... but with 135000 miles on my stock shocks... it should be worth it... wow that was long..

06-25-2007, 06:20 AM	#8 (permalink)
gpcollen1 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Connecticut (NY State of Mind) Posts: 402	It seems as the PP Springs are out of stock often enough. I waited for a few months for mine to come in. No big deal. If you are in a ruch, try a different spring... __________________ '99 SR5 Sport - Desert Dune: AirRaid MIT, OEM Air Filter, Toyo 265/75/16 ATs, Deckplate, PP Springs and Bilsteins, Cheapo nerf bars, Injector replacement impending

06-25-2007, 07:50 AM	#9 (permalink)
Skrillah Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bloomington,Indiana Posts: 859	The PP's will probably give you more than just an 1" of lift, searching on here has shown me that people are getting closer to 2". It depends on your current setup and what year you have. For example, your 99 will probably only get an 1" or a little more whereas my 97 4x4 would probably get a good 2" of lift. Again, it depends on how worn your current setup is, etc. Check out 4x4connection.com, look at the medium duty OME 906 coils for the rear and the medium duty OME 881 for the front. Most people on here have said they recieved about 2" in the rear and 1.25-1.50" up front, but again it will vary and I'm not sure since the 99's sit higher from factory anyhow. __________________ 1997 Toyota 4runner 4x4, 2.7L, Auto, 146k miles, KC Slimlites, Bilsteins, OME 881/890s, Custom Westin Push Bar, Brembo/Hawk Pads, Yakima Gear, Midland CB, 265/75/16 Bridgestone Revos, Limited 5-spoke rims (Custom),Herculined Rocker Panels, Diff. Breather mod,Deckplate mod,4.56 gearing, Pioneer head unit w/Ipod connection and Sirius Sat. Radio.

06-25-2007, 07:55 AM	#10 (permalink)
X-AWDriver Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton,CO Posts: 10,177	You still should get close to another inch over the '99 coils easily. __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander 4wd E-locker,rear diff and deckplate mod * 265/75/16 Nitto TerraGrapplers * Yakima Load Warrior rack * clear corners/signals * Tacoma skidplate * Silverstar lamps/fogs Alpine CDA-9831,Bazooka EL Series 250w amp,MTX 10" sub

06-26-2007, 04:05 PM	#12 (permalink)
frodin1 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NOW, Havasu! Posts: 1,066	I ordered those springs and had them delivered in 4 days. I guess I shouldn't have sent them back. Also, have never had had issues with 4WP. I bought 4 Procomp 1079's+ lugs, 4 - 285- BFG A/T's, Daystar 2.5 inch spacer lift, aligned & installed for $1200 out the door. Not bad in my opinoin.

06-26-2007, 09:17 PM	#13 (permalink)
wormhole Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bountiful, Utah Posts: 1,526	Sorry, I'm going to thread jack for second but all of these stuff just confuses that crap out of me. Reading back and forth about ome and other such things my head hurts (I been reading for the past few days) . I'm getting ready to replace my shocks (160,xx) on the orignals and I fiqured to replace my springs/coils at the same time. Would I go wrong with just getting the 99 4runner coils. I'm not looking for much of a lift at the moment just better than what I have until the $$ flow is a little better. Thinking of the tokico trekmaster shocks or the bilstein 5100 w/the 99 springs/coils. Sorry, for the thread jack again but I need help (yes I've searched). 96 4runner 4x4 __________________ 2000 Toyota 4runner auto, 4x4, elocker, budbuilt skid, Sonoran Steel 7.2, 265/75/16 Yokohoma Geolanders AT-S Just call me "T"

06-26-2007, 10:09 PM	#14 (permalink)
frodin1 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NOW, Havasu! Posts: 1,066	Check out http://www.sonoransteel.com/ This will tell you everything about 99 coils. And other options that could be a possibility to go with.

06-26-2007, 10:16 PM	#15 (permalink)
frodin1 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NOW, Havasu! Posts: 1,066	BEtter yet : The 3rd Gen 4Runner was introduced in 1996 and apparently Toyota was not pleased with the original front coils as they were changed for the 1997 model year even though no significant changes were made to the 4Runner. These coils ran from 1997 to 1998. In 1999 Toyota added the extra crush zone up front and the fat lip front bumper to facilitate it. Things were good and the 1999 4Runner sat higher than any 3rd Gen 4Runner to date. At the same time the Ford Explorer/Firestone Tire blowout/rollover media blitz hit. Toyota reacted by yanking the 2000 model year down lower mid production very early in the 2000 model years run. The 2001 and the 2002 are without a doubt the "Low Rider" 4Runners. This kit takes the best the factory had to offer in 1999 and applies it to every 4Runner from 1996 to 2002, 2WD and 4WD. The 2WD trucks will go up 2" from where they sat new and 4WD trucks will go up 1" from where they sat new. Does every 1999 have these magic coils? No way, only a few did and the chances of finding them in a junk yard is possible but, it is very slim that you find a 1999 and only a 1999 with the specific options factory installed, not dealer installed. ************************************************ ********************************************** ***********************

06-28-2007, 08:10 AM	#17 (permalink)
tony_4runner Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 63	Yesterday I checked PP's website again and did not find the 1" lift kit for the 99 Runner, p/n 109922. They had it last Friday. Maybe they are discontinuing the product.... __________________ Now: 1999 5-Speed SR5 4Runner Before: 1994 5-Speed SR5 4Runner Then (in Venezuela): 1987 Land Cruiser FJ70 1979 Land Cruiser FJ40 Dad: 1983 Land Cruiser FJ60

06-28-2007, 12:04 PM	#20 (permalink)
tony_4runner Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 63	yeap! thanks! If I chose 1999 4-Runner I get the 109922 coils, but if I chose the SR5 it does not show. Another proof of bad management! Now, as for the Bilstein shocks, are the shocks I need heavy-duty stock height? the 103628 and 103627? __________________ Now: 1999 5-Speed SR5 4Runner Before: 1994 5-Speed SR5 4Runner Then (in Venezuela): 1987 Land Cruiser FJ70 1979 Land Cruiser FJ40 Dad: 1983 Land Cruiser FJ60

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