Panhard drop ideas?
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Panhard drop ideas?
Hey all,
I put in new coils in rear of my 97 4runner and need some ideas of where to get a panhard drop bracket? I know Steve S. was making them, but no longer I guess.
I don't have a good trustworthy fab shop to use, or I'd have one made. Anyone have any ideas of where to look for one or does anyone make them for 3rd gens?
Thanks.
I put in new coils in rear of my 97 4runner and need some ideas of where to get a panhard drop bracket? I know Steve S. was making them, but no longer I guess.
I don't have a good trustworthy fab shop to use, or I'd have one made. Anyone have any ideas of where to look for one or does anyone make them for 3rd gens?
Thanks.
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Or you can make a bracket to raise the end on the axle which seems to potentially be more straightforward.
Why aren't you using that one Darren, different solution in mind?
Why aren't you using that one Darren, different solution in mind?
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Originally posted by Flygtenstein
Or you can make a bracket to raise the end on the axle which seems to potentially be more straightforward.
Or you can make a bracket to raise the end on the axle which seems to potentially be more straightforward.
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Adrian or Darren, could one of you explain this to me in a bit more detail. Sorry, I must be a little slow today.
Adrian or Darren, could one of you explain this to me in a bit more detail. Sorry, I must be a little slow today.
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Originally posted by Flygtenstein
Or you can make a bracket to raise the end on the axle which seems to potentially be more straightforward.
Or you can make a bracket to raise the end on the axle which seems to potentially be more straightforward.
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I would be interested in one of them for sure. Raise, lower, does not matter to me exactly as long as I get the rod closer to horizontal. Darren or Beachrunner, let me know how much you want for them.
Thanks a bunch,
Chris
Thanks a bunch,
Chris
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Originally posted by Toyo_Runner96
Ok in all reality, do you really need it? Cuz if so I might be interested in buying either one from you Darren or Beachrunner
Ok in all reality, do you really need it? Cuz if so I might be interested in buying either one from you Darren or Beachrunner
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Originally posted by keisur
YES!!!! read about it on Steve's site HERE hehe, that's my runner in the before after pics of the wheels, hehe.
YES!!!! read about it on Steve's site HERE hehe, that's my runner in the before after pics of the wheels, hehe.
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Yeah you need it. I rub frame on one side and not the other because of the way my rod is.
Dave, I mean to say that a drop requires measurements and fitment of the piece that goes in the stock bracket, etc. The raiser involves welding tube stock to the axle. I would think that any welder could/should be able to handle that exclusive of any wheeling knowledge while asking someone to implement the other could result in a lot of song and dance.
People I regard as having a clue say that raising the axle end impacts the roll axis less than dropping the frame end. If you know what that means, then you know what to do.
Dave, I mean to say that a drop requires measurements and fitment of the piece that goes in the stock bracket, etc. The raiser involves welding tube stock to the axle. I would think that any welder could/should be able to handle that exclusive of any wheeling knowledge while asking someone to implement the other could result in a lot of song and dance.
People I regard as having a clue say that raising the axle end impacts the roll axis less than dropping the frame end. If you know what that means, then you know what to do.
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Originally posted by Toyo_Runner96
Ok but since I rarely go full flex cuz I don't go off-roading that often, would this still be necessary for street driving? Not that I'm a street queen! Just that I don't go wheelin as much or as hardcore as you guys
Ok but since I rarely go full flex cuz I don't go off-roading that often, would this still be necessary for street driving? Not that I'm a street queen! Just that I don't go wheelin as much or as hardcore as you guys
EDIT: I just replaced a grease fitting on the slip yoke last weekend that I sheared off when the driveshaft spun up against my gas tank skid before I got my panhard drop on. I plugged it with an M6x1 screw until I got up enough energy to go to pepboys and grab a few metric zerks. all is better now but now I think I need to replace the ujoints, not because of that since it was the slipyoke fitting but just because last time I checked the ujoints were a bit tough to move and were sort of catching in one spot and moved freely in another. there causing a little vibration too.
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People I regard as having a clue say that raising the axle end impacts the roll axis less than dropping the frame end. If you know what that means, then you know what to do.
People I regard as having a clue say that raising the axle end impacts the roll axis less than dropping the frame end. If you know what that means, then you know what to do.
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Originally posted by Darren
You can buy mine I got from Steve. I'm not going to use it.
You can buy mine I got from Steve. I'm not going to use it.
I can't tell you how pissed off I was that first night in Colorado when I head that crap.
My 4Runner has NO added body roll. Neither does anyone elses that used this bracket. Apparently you have quite a bit when you don't use it, like old Jeffey.
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Originally posted by Darren
You probably heard that from the same individual I did! And yes, this is the reasoning why I'm electing not to use the drop bracket. Less roll is good, though there are probably marginal benefits/costs in any scenario: left alone, raised or dropped.
You probably heard that from the same individual I did! And yes, this is the reasoning why I'm electing not to use the drop bracket. Less roll is good, though there are probably marginal benefits/costs in any scenario: left alone, raised or dropped.
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I'm not convinced that people who don't off road need a panhard drop for 3rd gens. If you do a search you'll find the calculations I did on how much the axle will shift at ride height. I think it was 0.1 inch or so. It's not noticable at all and not worth the money or troubles of installation, IMO. Plus I think the potential of catastrophic failure is greater than any perceived handling loss (which I believe there is none).
If you're going to off road with it then that's a different story.
If you're going to off road with it then that's a different story.
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:cry: :cry:
:cry: :cry:
You live in your little, happy world, and us CO guys will live in ours. If you're upset about that, well, we honestly don't care. I know I don't.