Locker for Daily Driver

JHupp · 01-27-2006, 06:49 PM

Hi, I couldnt find any threads pertaining to this locker question, I was wondering if anybody had an EZ locker or Lockright. I wanted to throw 2 lockers into my truck, but it is mainly a daily driver. Does anyone have this setup, and if so, how does it work for you, noticeably different handling, or just plain bad handling. I offroad, maybe once a month, and the ATRAC system on my '01 doesnt cut it. I do a lot of parrallel parking, and, it is Jersey, so a lot of jughandles, and U-Turns, etc. So if anyone is running dual full time lockers, could you let me know your like/dislikes about this setup for a daily driver use. I do not want an ARB, too pricey, and dont want air hoses. The e-locker would only lock the back, and I am not mechanically inclined enough to install it myself. So I am left only with the lockrights, aussie lockers, or ez locker. This site claims the EZ locker is for the occasional off roader, which is me, but I dont want my truck to handle badly on the roads. I have read similar threads on other boards, and have come up with mixed reviews. But I want my truck locked, and I dont want it too handle poorly. Is that too much to ask for a lunchbox locker, or is it reasonable? Sorry if this is a re-post, I read many threads here, but none asked this specific questions. I I have missed it, I apologize in advance, if someone could point me to a thread that I have missed, that would be great too. Thanks,
Jason

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JHupp · 01-27-2006, 06:59 PM

by the way it is an auto

ebelen1 · 01-28-2006, 03:15 PM

Try posting this in the off-road tech section. You may get more replies.

Silver_Truck · 01-28-2006, 04:16 PM

I'm locked in the rear with a lockrite and literally I can hardly notice it when driving normally. The only times it makes itself known is when backing out of a parking space and accelerating while turning sharply i.e turning right from a stop sign and accelerating hard. I'd say do it, its by far the best thing I've added to my truck.

Napoleon047 · 01-28-2006, 06:35 PM

http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=43572

i run lockrights front and rear and my 4runner is my only vehicle, so daily driven. you can run a lockright up front no prob if you have manual hubs or if you have defeated the ADD. put one in the rear first and then worry about the front later.

bob200587 · 01-28-2006, 06:43 PM

I wouldn't even consider automatic lockers for my truck. Some people say they cant notice it, but I know they eat tires. Save up and get ARB's or E-locker. When I get to where its time to put lockers in, I'm going to do an E-locker rear, and detroit tru-trac front. I would go ARB up front, but I doubt I'll ever need it, and I don't want to put up with the Air compresor, and all the hoses and fittings and stuff that can go wrong.

6lug · 01-28-2006, 08:09 PM

nah...not that bad....I have a lockright in the back too, with an auto, and like geoff said, you can hardly notice it. I, however, would not personally put one up front. Not an auto anyway, because yeah, if you have manual hubs, you can undo it, but when the hubs are engaged, if youre on slick terrain, you will have NO steering ability. And from what I see, you have a 3rd gen, so no manual hubs, so pain in the butt, even if you dont have it in 4wd. I know its expensive, but Im planning on just saving the dough up and get a selectable for the front. My 2cents.

yoda-g2 · 01-28-2006, 09:45 PM

I just put an Aussie in my fj40 and LOVE it. You barely even notice its there on the road and in parking lots its easy to get the hang of so you never get tire chirps. I had a lock rite for about 1 month before that and I hated it. That's why I tore it our and got the Aussie.

Which ever brand you go, I would definitely skip locking the front. I unlocked the front of my fj and could still do the same trails and rocks as with it locked.

gwhayduke · 01-29-2006, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JHupp

...a lot of jughandles, and U-Turns, etc.

Jug handles? Do you mean an Oklahoma bootlegger?

JHupp · 01-29-2006, 06:54 AM

wow, thanks everyone, I checked the thread above. The vote seems to be 4 to 1 in favor of an automatic locker in just the rear. I think thats what I'm going to end up going with. Thanks guys, really appreciate the info.

ecchamberlin · 01-29-2006, 08:44 AM

Ebay has Aussie Lockers for $238 w/ free shipping. I'm thinking about picking one up myself. I have heard lots of good reviews on this one compaired to the lock rites.

ebelen1 · 01-29-2006, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecchamberlin

Ebay has Aussie Lockers for $238 w/ free shipping. I'm thinking about picking one up myself. I have heard lots of good reviews on this one compaired to the lock rites.

Eric, did some research on these and the website doesn't show an Aussie fitting our 3rd gens. It says rear 8", years 84-89. Is this the same? Here's a link to my research: http://www.aussielocker.com/make.php.../6b4a/99/.html

Bobakazi · 01-29-2006, 10:49 AM

For the occasional off-roader, I would go with the Trutrac. They operate like an open diff until you get some wheel spin. Then it switches power to the tire that needs it the most, instead of giving power to the one that needs it the least. They are much better for going off-road than an open diff, and they work great in automatics. I love mine. Check it out if you have not already.
http://www.detroitlocker.com/DT.htm

JHupp · 01-29-2006, 11:18 AM

Thanks for the suggestion, I was looking for a true locker, The LSDs are nice, but I want something packs a bit more of a punch, just not on-road(my dillemma). I have heard many good things about the aussie locker for it's on-road capabilities as well as offroad. The one on e-bay I dont think will fit my Runner, but it is a great price. I'm going to do a bit more research, but I need one for Sunday the 12th for my paragon run, so I'll let you guys know what I get, and how I like it. I think a lot of people have the same question as I do about the whole daily driver issue, so this thread should be very helpful to someone in the future. Thanks for all of the info,
Jason

Silver_Truck · 01-29-2006, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebelen1

Eric, did some research on these and the website doesn't show an Aussie fitting our 3rd gens. It says rear 8", years 84-89. Is this the same? Here's a link to my research: http://www.aussielocker.com/make.php.../6b4a/99/.html

They don't make an aussie for 4 pinion 8" diffs yet...I really don't know much about 3rd gens but being that they're heavier, more powerful etc. I'd assume that they have 4 pinion "V6" 8" 3rds so no an aussie wouldn't work, however lockrite makes one. This is where I would get it from: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Lockr...spagenameZWD1V

JHupp · 01-29-2006, 11:24 AM

Yeah, I was just about to correct myself on the aussie locker, the lock rite or e z locker was going to be my second choice, and I have ehard they are almost identical. If I get it and don't like it, Ill put it up for sale on here. Also, what is the best fluid to use for the rear diff so I don't have to hear this thing ratcheting when I make tight turns?

Bobakazi · 01-29-2006, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JHupp

Thanks for the suggestion, I was looking for a true locker, The LSDs are nice, but I want something packs a bit more of a punch, just not on-road(my dillemma). I have heard many good things about the aussie locker for it's on-road capabilities as well as offroad. The one on e-bay I dont think will fit my Runner, but it is a great price. I'm going to do a bit more research, but I need one for Sunday the 12th for my paragon run, so I'll let you guys know what I get, and how I like it. I think a lot of people have the same question as I do about the whole daily driver issue, so this thread should be very helpful to someone in the future. Thanks for all of the info,
Jason

I prefer lockers also. I just meant if you were considering leaving the front end open because of handling issues, the Truetrac is an awesome middle ground. The power transfers to the tire that is slipping (unlike an open diff), but it will handle like an open diff.

Bob_98SR5 · 01-29-2006, 01:33 PM

jhupp,

custom cruiser is selling his elocker + everything else. 4.30 gearing. check the classifieds

bob

JHupp · 01-29-2006, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob_98SR5

jhupp,

custom cruiser is selling his elocker + everything else. 4.30 gearing. check the classifieds

bob

yeah I saw that, I know $500 plus shipping is a good deal for it, but the lockrights are only around the $200 range. I was pretty much looking for an auto locker,, and I do not think I could perform the e-locker installation. When it comes to bolts and nuts, I'm ok, any cutting or grinding, ehhh not so much, you should see how my valence came out, and my tires still rub. I was trying to keep this product cheap, automatic, and easy. Howver, if the auto lockers arent any good for what I want, I will fork over the extra cash, just trying not to if I dont have to.

JHupp · 01-29-2006, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobakazi

I prefer lockers also. I just meant if you were considering leaving the front end open because of handling issues, the Truetrac is an awesome middle ground. The power transfers to the tire that is slipping (unlike an open diff), but it will handle like an open diff.

Ohhh yes, my bad, an LSD would probably be the best choice for up front, didnt even think about that. I'll look into that, for now, I'm just gonna do the back. But I like that idea a lot.

Silver_Truck · 01-29-2006, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JHupp

Yeah, I was just about to correct myself on the aussie locker, the lock rite or e z locker was going to be my second choice, and I have ehard they are almost identical. If I get it and don't like it, Ill put it up for sale on here. Also, what is the best fluid to use for the rear diff so I don't have to hear this thing ratcheting when I make tight turns?

I use Redline lightweight shockproof gear oil and can't hardly hear the lcoker at all...have to have windows down and stereo off and turn in a parking lot and can barely hear it. Roger Brown has a write up about it on his site as well, seems to like it.

JHupp · 01-29-2006, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver_Truck

I use Redline lightweight shockproof gear oil and can't hardly hear the lcoker at all...have to have windows down and stereo off and turn in a parking lot and can barely hear it. Roger Brown has a write up about it on his site as well, seems to like it.

Awesome, all of this info is extremely useful to me, and hopefully to people in the future. I think I am going with the Lock right for the rear as the prices on e-bay for a brand new one seem pretty good. I need it for paragon on 2/12 so I'm gonna pick it up, and get it in, I'll let you all know how it works in my daily driver. Thanks for all the suggestions, and comments, any more would be extremely helpful as well.
Jason

Sonofmayhem · 01-29-2006, 10:12 PM

Dont forget, that the locker will change the way the truck handles in snow.

YotaNate · 01-30-2006, 04:07 AM

I've had lockrights, ez lockers, detroits, and spools. Right now I'm running aussie lockers and I'm very happy with them. Quieter and smoother than a lockright or ez locker, and easier on tires and cheaper than a detroit. I found them on the PBB vendor page for 230 shipped.

hillbilly · 01-30-2006, 04:46 AM

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01-27-2006, 06:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
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Silver_Truck Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: B'ham, WA Posts: 1,800	I'm locked in the rear with a lockrite and literally I can hardly notice it when driving normally. The only times it makes itself known is when backing out of a parking space and accelerating while turning sharply i.e turning right from a stop sign and accelerating hard. I'd say do it, its by far the best thing I've added to my truck. __________________ -Geoff *1991 Toyota Pickup Ext. Cab SR5 4x4 V6 5 spd K&N intake, port & polished heads with OS valves, port & polished intake manifold and plenum, NWOR headers and crossover, NWOR catback, Denso Iridium plugs, Redline Fluids, 4.88s, Rear LockRight, Aisin hubs, Chevy springs, BJ spacers, 2" RB body lift, 34x10.5 Swamper LTBs, WolphisWorks Sliders and bumpers, 400,000 mi.

01-28-2006, 06:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
Napoleon047 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Columbia, MO Posts: 995	http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=43572 i run lockrights front and rear and my 4runner is my only vehicle, so daily driven. you can run a lockright up front no prob if you have manual hubs or if you have defeated the ADD. put one in the rear first and then worry about the front later. __________________ -Peter 86 4runner SAS - Trail Rig 94 FZJ80 - DD the dirt cheap SAS Marko Customs

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bob200587 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 2,843	I wouldn't even consider automatic lockers for my truck. Some people say they cant notice it, but I know they eat tires. Save up and get ARB's or E-locker. When I get to where its time to put lockers in, I'm going to do an E-locker rear, and detroit tru-trac front. I would go ARB up front, but I doubt I'll ever need it, and I don't want to put up with the Air compresor, and all the hoses and fittings and stuff that can go wrong. __________________ 87 4runner 4x4 SR5 22RE ARB Bull Bar, 31X10.50 Mastercraft M/T's, Stock 4.10 Gears, Flowmaster Muffler, LCE Header AISIN Manual Hubs, Marlin Crawler Sliders 190XXX miles

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6lug Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sevierville, TN Posts: 292	nah...not that bad....I have a lockright in the back too, with an auto, and like geoff said, you can hardly notice it. I, however, would not personally put one up front. Not an auto anyway, because yeah, if you have manual hubs, you can undo it, but when the hubs are engaged, if youre on slick terrain, you will have NO steering ability. And from what I see, you have a 3rd gen, so no manual hubs, so pain in the butt, even if you dont have it in 4wd. I know its expensive, but Im planning on just saving the dough up and get a selectable for the front. My 2cents. __________________ 1993 4Runner, V6, auto, 4.56's, custom rear bumper/tire carrier, Marlin's sliders, All Pro's rear spacers, Warn manual hubs, Surco rack (slightly customized), lights, on 31's, Lockright out back, Safari Snorkel. Now...1998 Jeep Cherokee, 4.0, AW4, 231, HPD30, C8.25, Skyjacker 4", 31" BFG ATs, custom frnt bumper/winch

01-28-2006, 09:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
yoda-g2 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 570	I just put an Aussie in my fj40 and LOVE it. You barely even notice its there on the road and in parking lots its easy to get the hang of so you never get tire chirps. I had a lock rite for about 1 month before that and I hated it. That's why I tore it our and got the Aussie. Which ever brand you go, I would definitely skip locking the front. I unlocked the front of my fj and could still do the same trails and rocks as with it locked. __________________ The Money Pit: '96 FZJ80 - Locked \| Safari Turbo w/ Intercooler \| Unichip \| 3" Exhaust \| IPT VB \| OME 3" Lift \| ARB & Kaymar \| Winch \| DBA Slotted X-Drilled Rotors \| Aussie Drawers \| HID's \| BFG AT's... '78 FJ40 - Finally got my Mustard Baby!!! - Resto Project... Clicky for Pics!

01-29-2006, 06:54 AM	#10 (permalink)
JHupp Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,159	wow, thanks everyone, I checked the thread above. The vote seems to be 4 to 1 in favor of an automatic locker in just the rear. I think thats what I'm going to end up going with. Thanks guys, really appreciate the info. __________________ Jason '06 F250 Super Duty Daily Driver '01 Toyota 4Runner Sport 265/75/16 BFG ATs, OME 881s w/ spacers front, OME 891s rear, SS roll bar, and some other stuff. Out of Commision njttora.com

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ecchamberlin Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,917	Ebay has Aussie Lockers for $238 w/ free shipping. I'm thinking about picking one up myself. I have heard lots of good reviews on this one compaired to the lock rites. __________________ Eric 2001 4Runner with stuff: http://www.ultimateyota.com/index.ph...6&topic=1098.0

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Bobakazi Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 379	For the occasional off-roader, I would go with the Trutrac. They operate like an open diff until you get some wheel spin. Then it switches power to the tire that needs it the most, instead of giving power to the one that needs it the least. They are much better for going off-road than an open diff, and they work great in automatics. I love mine. Check it out if you have not already. http://www.detroitlocker.com/DT.htm __________________ '90 Extra cab V6 4x4 PU 5.29 gears. Detroit locker front, Detroit Truetrac rear. 35" BFG mudders. Trailmaster 4" susp, 3" body lifts. Add-a-leaf. K+N intake, 2.5" exhaust with Flowmaster 40 and a cat I got off an Evo VIII.

01-29-2006, 11:18 AM	#14 (permalink)
JHupp Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,159	Thanks for the suggestion, I was looking for a true locker, The LSDs are nice, but I want something packs a bit more of a punch, just not on-road(my dillemma). I have heard many good things about the aussie locker for it's on-road capabilities as well as offroad. The one on e-bay I dont think will fit my Runner, but it is a great price. I'm going to do a bit more research, but I need one for Sunday the 12th for my paragon run, so I'll let you guys know what I get, and how I like it. I think a lot of people have the same question as I do about the whole daily driver issue, so this thread should be very helpful to someone in the future. Thanks for all of the info, Jason __________________ Jason '06 F250 Super Duty Daily Driver '01 Toyota 4Runner Sport 265/75/16 BFG ATs, OME 881s w/ spacers front, OME 891s rear, SS roll bar, and some other stuff. Out of Commision njttora.com

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JHupp Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,159	Yeah, I was just about to correct myself on the aussie locker, the lock rite or e z locker was going to be my second choice, and I have ehard they are almost identical. If I get it and don't like it, Ill put it up for sale on here. Also, what is the best fluid to use for the rear diff so I don't have to hear this thing ratcheting when I make tight turns? __________________ Jason '06 F250 Super Duty Daily Driver '01 Toyota 4Runner Sport 265/75/16 BFG ATs, OME 881s w/ spacers front, OME 891s rear, SS roll bar, and some other stuff. Out of Commision njttora.com

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Bob_98SR5 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,092	jhupp, custom cruiser is selling his elocker + everything else. 4.30 gearing. check the classifieds bob

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Sonofmayhem Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Springs, Colorado Posts: 1,700	Dont forget, that the locker will change the way the truck handles in snow. __________________ 4.3/5.0 Do iT!

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YotaNate Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Southeast Tennessee Posts: 8	I've had lockrights, ez lockers, detroits, and spools. Right now I'm running aussie lockers and I'm very happy with them. Quieter and smoother than a lockright or ez locker, and easier on tires and cheaper than a detroit. I found them on the PBB vendor page for 230 shipped.

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