legal question re: corner lights

c2dalo · 08-29-2004, 06:42 PM

Is it illegal to have blue corner lights? If so.. does anyone know the law?

BeaterToyota · 08-29-2004, 07:00 PM

It depends n your state. Where are you located?

Search the internet for your state's vehicle code. For example, I found VA's codes here.

4RUNR · 08-29-2004, 07:07 PM

Can tell you right now, yes it is illegal.

Foo Fighter · 08-29-2004, 07:47 PM

and at least here in cali your corner markers should be reflective orange...although they wont hassle you too much about that if your bulb is orange...but blue bulbs is asking to get hassled

98whtLmTD · 08-29-2004, 07:53 PM

I saw a 4runner with blue corner bulbs, and they are VERY noticeable from afar.

Edit: When you mean blue bulbs, do you mean blue coated, whiteish output? Or do you mean blue coated blue output?

Tacoma Dude · 08-29-2004, 08:25 PM

Unless you are offroad - solid red anywhere except the rear of the vehicle is not allowed. Blue is not permissable period. Ever see those ricers with the windshield washer nozzles that give off blue light? Illegal to have - check your local vehicle code if you want but I'm pretty sure that any light associated with an emergency vehicle will be off limits on a personal one.

BruceTS · 08-29-2004, 08:46 PM

Does that mean that I can't have my blue under carriage lights???????

Dan_90SR5 · 08-29-2004, 08:57 PM

I have a Super Street or Sport Compact Car somewhere around here and call tell you just about anything you want to know about state laws and modding your vehicle. It has laws on lights, window tint, ride height.....just about anything. Let me know what state you want info on and I can tell you.

Iwill tell you without picking it up that in most states, just about any color other than white, amber or red for signals is illegal. Most states also require that all forward facing lights be of white or amber in color. The article also told how some states were questioning HID lights because of their bluish hue. Is that strict or what?

Sludge · 08-29-2004, 08:59 PM

you cannot have a non-approved D.O.T. light emitting device on your vehicle while its in motion on the road. off road use and showing off in a parking lot is different.

Jason B · 08-29-2004, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c2dalo

Is it illegal to have blue corner lights? If so.. does anyone know the law?

I'd stick with white or orange.

Hawaiian4R · 08-30-2004, 12:12 AM

Here in Hawaii, any type of blue light is illegal

4RunnerKid · 08-30-2004, 01:13 AM

My turn signals have a blue hue to them, but my corners are white to match my headlights. I'm pretty sure blue is illegal. At least here in CA...

Dan_90SR5 · 08-30-2004, 01:22 PM

so here is a little bit of what it says in that Super Street......I thought it had the lighting laws, but just has a general overview.

"state laws defer to or incorporate the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards reguarding brightness and visibility. A good way to ensure that your replacement lamps are leagal is to look for the Depeartment of Transportation's initails somewhere on the lens or the bulb." -Super Street Magazine, September 2004

Thought I'd throw that obvious part in there.....now for the more detailed part......

"Federal rules are pretty specific reguarding light colors. Forward-facing and side-marker lights need to be either white or amber; brake and taillights need to be red; and turn signals can be red, white or amber, depending on which end of the vehicle is under consideration and how old the vehicle is. Vehicle codes frown on any other colors, particularly blue, because blue lights are often used by law enforcement agencies." -Super Street Magazine, September 2004

I know this isn't an exact anser to this subject, but it is a good overview of at least the Federal side of it. I personally have green marker lights on my Celica, but I live in a state that isn't a strict on that kind of thing. The cops here say that markers can be any color that you want other than blue and they can not flash.

c2dalo · 08-30-2004, 02:00 PM

Thanks for all the responses- Apparently the consensus is that it's illegal. I live in NY by the way. But yeah, i have had blue corner lights (not my turn signal) for at least 2 years now and never had a word said to me. But a week ago me and my buddies were coming home from the bars and a cop pulled us over.. w/ the claim being that the lights were illegal. Luckily for me, i wasn't driving.. but unluckily for my buddy.. he got dabbed with a DWI. I was just trying to confirm that the cops' reason for pulling us over is legit.

Tacoma Dude · 08-30-2004, 02:45 PM

DWI?!?
Are you kidding me???
Did you guys not designate a driver? Party up if you want but stay off the freaking roads!

Flamedx4 · 08-30-2004, 02:53 PM

Some of the aftermarket "HID"ish headlight bulbs are very blue. In addition to being potentially illegal, they also aren't very bright, neither of which is very bright...

Del · 08-30-2004, 05:55 PM

Any blue lights on a vehicle are illegal. If they wanted to be d*cks about it, they could get you for inpersonating (sp?) a police officer, depending on where the lights were located.

desert whomper · 08-30-2004, 10:00 PM

my truck has blue bulbs all around except for the headlights and i have passed numerous cops, no problem, i live in cali by the way.

Foo Fighter · 08-30-2004, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desert whomper

my truck has blue bulbs all around except for the headlights and i have passed numerous cops, no problem, i live in cali by the way.

well i'll put it to you this way...if you were in a lowered civic w/ loud exhaust etc and those bulbs you'd be getting the heat from the po po

i've noticed that driving a truck cops dont tend to hassle you as much as a lowered import.

Tofer · 08-30-2004, 11:11 PM

i think its one of those things the cops can use to nab you if they want to check to see if your drunk or not... basicly it gives them P.C. to pull you over.... i have my 150 watt roof mounted KCs un-covered and have for almost a year and haven't been pulled over for it, even though my buddys who are police officers tell me i need to get them covered cuz i guess it illegal to have driving/fog/off-road lights higher then the headlights uncovered...(i keep them uncovered cuz it get my point across REAL quick, when other people have their high-beams on..

) but i was pulled over when i was in my brothers Neon due to the windshield lights but it was 3am and near a bunch of bars.... ran my DL and plates and let me go.

Flamedx4 · 08-31-2004, 10:10 AM

08-29-2004, 06:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
c2dalo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 3	legal question re: corner lights Is it illegal to have blue corner lights? If so.. does anyone know the law?

08-29-2004, 07:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
BeaterToyota Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Warrenton, VA Posts: 619	It depends n your state. Where are you located? Search the internet for your state's vehicle code. For example, I found VA's codes here. __________________ '88 SAS'd trail junk with dents and dual cases. www.RightCoast4x4.com

08-29-2004, 07:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
Foo Fighter Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The OC Posts: 130	and at least here in cali your corner markers should be reflective orange...although they wont hassle you too much about that if your bulb is orange...but blue bulbs is asking to get hassled __________________ www.vip-culture.com 2006 Tacoma \| Double Cab \| TRD Sport \| Tow Package \| Silver Streak Mica

08-29-2004, 07:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
98whtLmTD Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 61	I saw a 4runner with blue corner bulbs, and they are VERY noticeable from afar. Edit: When you mean blue bulbs, do you mean blue coated, whiteish output? Or do you mean blue coated blue output? __________________ ~98 White 4Runner LiMiTeD~A6 bi-xenon retrofit . Bunch of other mods. Last edited by 98whtLmTD : 08-29-2004 at 07:54 PM.

08-29-2004, 08:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
Tacoma Dude Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 8,377	Unless you are offroad - solid red anywhere except the rear of the vehicle is not allowed. Blue is not permissable period. Ever see those ricers with the windshield washer nozzles that give off blue light? Illegal to have - check your local vehicle code if you want but I'm pretty sure that any light associated with an emergency vehicle will be off limits on a personal one. __________________ Peter! 2002 Tacoma 1986 4Runner

08-29-2004, 07:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
4RUNR Guest Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: North Pole Posts: 1,619	Can tell you right now, yes it is illegal.

08-29-2004, 08:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
BruceTS Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,319	Does that mean that I can't have my blue under carriage lights???????

08-29-2004, 08:57 PM	#8 (permalink)
Dan_90SR5 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Middle TN Posts: 371	I have a Super Street or Sport Compact Car somewhere around here and call tell you just about anything you want to know about state laws and modding your vehicle. It has laws on lights, window tint, ride height.....just about anything. Let me know what state you want info on and I can tell you. Iwill tell you without picking it up that in most states, just about any color other than white, amber or red for signals is illegal. Most states also require that all forward facing lights be of white or amber in color. The article also told how some states were questioning HID lights because of their bluish hue. Is that strict or what? __________________ -Dan 1990 4Runner SR5 (burgundy) -1.5" Ball joint spacers -Cruiser coils -2" RB body lift -31 x 10.50 Goodyear Wrangler RT/S (going up to 33" or I was told 35" will fit....we'll see) -rebuilding 3VZ (still working on this......the short block will be done this week along with all of the parts.......hopefully I can get it mounted next week) 1993 Celica GT (red) 1983 Celica GT (silver)

08-29-2004, 08:59 PM	#9 (permalink)
Sludge Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Pa Posts: 422	you cannot have a non-approved D.O.T. light emitting device on your vehicle while its in motion on the road. off road use and showing off in a parking lot is different. __________________ 92 4Runner SR5 Aisin hubs,pin stripe removed,police scanner,brush guard,Monroe Senseatrak shocks and steering stablizer,Brembo rotors,Downey HD coils,Blue reverse indiglo guages. . . http://community.webshots.com/user/sludg3

08-30-2004, 12:12 AM	#11 (permalink)
Hawaiian4R Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 263	Here in Hawaii, any type of blue light is illegal __________________ *2002 4Runner SR5*

08-30-2004, 01:13 AM	#12 (permalink)
4RunnerKid Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sac + SLO, CA Posts: 1,003	My turn signals have a blue hue to them, but my corners are white to match my headlights. I'm pretty sure blue is illegal. At least here in CA... __________________ -Mikey- 1993 4Runner ~ TG 5" HD/RUF front \| All Pro ~4" rear \| 37" Krawlers \| bomb-proof front housing \| Marlin UM06s \| 12" Fox 2.0s \| Aussie front \| Lock-Right rear \| 5-speed swap \| TG 4.7s \| 5.29s \| bumpers \| sliders \| t-case skid \| K&N intake \| Flowmaster 40 \| Optima red top \| clear lenses \| PIAA 1400s \| KCs \| LED rock lights \| Midland CB \| Firestik 4' antenna \| PIAA superwhites \| stereo Polygoats 4-Wheel Drive Club -> check it yo

08-30-2004, 01:22 PM	#13 (permalink)
Dan_90SR5 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Middle TN Posts: 371	so here is a little bit of what it says in that Super Street......I thought it had the lighting laws, but just has a general overview. "state laws defer to or incorporate the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards reguarding brightness and visibility. A good way to ensure that your replacement lamps are leagal is to look for the Depeartment of Transportation's initails somewhere on the lens or the bulb." -Super Street Magazine, September 2004 Thought I'd throw that obvious part in there.....now for the more detailed part...... "Federal rules are pretty specific reguarding light colors. Forward-facing and side-marker lights need to be either white or amber; brake and taillights need to be red; and turn signals can be red, white or amber, depending on which end of the vehicle is under consideration and how old the vehicle is. Vehicle codes frown on any other colors, particularly blue, because blue lights are often used by law enforcement agencies." -Super Street Magazine, September 2004 I know this isn't an exact anser to this subject, but it is a good overview of at least the Federal side of it. I personally have green marker lights on my Celica, but I live in a state that isn't a strict on that kind of thing. The cops here say that markers can be any color that you want other than blue and they can not flash. __________________ -Dan 1990 4Runner SR5 (burgundy) -1.5" Ball joint spacers -Cruiser coils -2" RB body lift -31 x 10.50 Goodyear Wrangler RT/S (going up to 33" or I was told 35" will fit....we'll see) -rebuilding 3VZ (still working on this......the short block will be done this week along with all of the parts.......hopefully I can get it mounted next week) 1993 Celica GT (red) 1983 Celica GT (silver)

08-30-2004, 02:00 PM	#14 (permalink)
c2dalo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 3	Thanks Thanks for all the responses- Apparently the consensus is that it's illegal. I live in NY by the way. But yeah, i have had blue corner lights (not my turn signal) for at least 2 years now and never had a word said to me. But a week ago me and my buddies were coming home from the bars and a cop pulled us over.. w/ the claim being that the lights were illegal. Luckily for me, i wasn't driving.. but unluckily for my buddy.. he got dabbed with a DWI. I was just trying to confirm that the cops' reason for pulling us over is legit.

08-30-2004, 02:45 PM	#15 (permalink)
Tacoma Dude Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 8,377	DWI?!? Are you kidding me??? Did you guys not designate a driver? Party up if you want but stay off the freaking roads! __________________ Peter! 2002 Tacoma 1986 4Runner

08-30-2004, 02:53 PM	#16 (permalink)
Flamedx4 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: 100 miles offshore as much as possible, & Springfield Oregon USA Posts: 3,286	Some of the aftermarket "HID"ish headlight bulbs are very blue. In addition to being potentially illegal, they also aren't very bright, neither of which is very bright... __________________ All my Yotas are gone. Stuff to sell: http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.p...39#post1009839 -Phil

08-30-2004, 05:55 PM	#17 (permalink)
Del Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 446	Any blue lights on a vehicle are illegal. If they wanted to be d*cks about it, they could get you for inpersonating (sp?) a police officer, depending on where the lights were located. __________________ 2003 Subaru WRX ______________________________________________ http://www.myspace.com/del_vecchio

08-30-2004, 10:00 PM	#18 (permalink)
desert whomper Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 212	my truck has blue bulbs all around except for the headlights and i have passed numerous cops, no problem, i live in cali by the way.

08-30-2004, 11:11 PM	#20 (permalink)
Tofer Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tacoma WA. Posts: 5,776	i think its one of those things the cops can use to nab you if they want to check to see if your drunk or not... basicly it gives them P.C. to pull you over.... i have my 150 watt roof mounted KCs un-covered and have for almost a year and haven't been pulled over for it, even though my buddys who are police officers tell me i need to get them covered cuz i guess it illegal to have driving/fog/off-road lights higher then the headlights uncovered...(i keep them uncovered cuz it get my point across REAL quick, when other people have their high-beams on.. ) but i was pulled over when i was in my brothers Neon due to the windshield lights but it was 3am and near a bunch of bars.... ran my DL and plates and let me go. __________________ 3genRunner: including parts from 3 generations of 4runners, '92 pickup, '80something Land Cruiser, Chevy truck, Ford sedan 89 4runner: Project DD. 3.0, needs a new tranny 81 2wd pickup: 22R \| 5-sp \| long bed \| quad hauler, leaks oil but gets 26mpg 91 Honda Prelude: the Daily Driver WA, OR or CA wheeler?? Check out pacific-crawlers.com and check out yotaworks.com

08-31-2004, 10:10 AM	#21 (permalink)
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