Larger Oil Filter - 50% more media... - Page 2

Elton · 01-20-2007, 09:07 PM

ive been useing mobil 1 clean 5,000 as i dont have the $18+ dollars for full synthetic

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Elton · 01-21-2007, 04:21 PM

the napa gold filter 1516 fits fine theres a hose above the filter thats kinda in the way so a bigger filter may not work i have some pics of new filter compared to the old i can post up if needed.... also doing a oil change sucks more and more every time i change it

UNR.Grad · 01-30-2007, 09:47 PM

Random, but my girlfriend's 2001 Saturn SC2 uses the same filter as ours, looks like I'll upgrade her to the 1516 also, thanks for the info!

Cargun · 02-05-2007, 01:52 PM

I'd be worried about the bypass valve difference. That Ford filter will filter less oil than the Toyota specific filter. What's the use of having a filter if the oil isn't flowing through it? And if you're worried about clogging the filter, you're waiting WAY too long between changes.

That doesn't look like a trade-off I'd make on a vehicle I was planning on putting 250k on.

loosehead · 02-06-2007, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Cargun

I'd be worried about the bypass valve difference. That Ford filter will filter less oil than the Toyota specific filter. What's the use of having a filter if the oil isn't flowing through it? And if you're worried about clogging the filter, you're waiting WAY too long between changes.

That doesn't look like a trade-off I'd make on a vehicle I was planning on putting 250k on.

You have a point, but in this case the bypass valve pressure is the same for either filter. When I first looked in to this (see my old thread a few up^ ), me and the gentleman at NAPA cross referenced everything in thier big oil filter book, and they were the same. I can't remeber what the rating was now, though...

Hugo · 03-13-2007, 05:42 AM

So is anyone using the bigger one yet?

Intrepid · 03-13-2007, 06:36 AM

I just changed the oil in my 4.7L Tundra on Saturday and the 3.0L ford taurus filter fits great, no leaks, no problems.

loosehead · 03-13-2007, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by loosehead

Hey guys-

I've been off line for a while, but I thought I'd share that I've been using the NAPA FIL1516 for years without issue. It seems to work just fine on the 3.4L:
http://yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=3589

Hugo-

I've been using the larger NAP filter since 2002 with success...

Starbuck3733T · 03-14-2007, 08:34 AM

Gonna give this a shot in my 'runner later!

YotaFun · 03-14-2007, 08:05 PM

Gonna be doing this tomorrow, we shall see what happens

Starbuck3733T · 03-15-2007, 07:14 AM

The weather has gone back to being terrible here, so I'm doing this friday. Have Mobile 1 and Napa Gold, will travel.

mt_goat · 03-15-2007, 04:01 PM

Napa has a sale on their oil filters today only, I got 4 of the Napa Gold 1516 for $12.48 or $3.12 each. The guy said they only have this sale twice a year and for one day only. Sorry I couldn't give more notice about it but there's still a few hours left before they close.

RustBucket · 03-15-2007, 04:12 PM

So does anyone have a list of filters that will fit the 22re block?

Starbuck3733T · 03-15-2007, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mt_goat

Napa has a sale on their oil filters today only, I got 4 of the Napa Gold 1516 for $12.48 or $3.12 each. The guy said they only have this sale twice a year and for one day only. Sorry I couldn't give more notice about it but there's still a few hours left before they close.

Wied... they weren't having the sale when I was at mine during lunch. oops.

YotaFun · 03-15-2007, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Starbuck3733T

Wied... they weren't having the sale when I was at mine during lunch. oops.

x2, so oil changed and seems to be running just fine so, we shall see what the oil is like in 2K (since thats when it was getting black before...)

mt_goat · 03-16-2007, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Starbuck3733T

Wied... they weren't having the sale when I was at mine during lunch. oops.

Oops, maybe that was just a regional thing. Oh well be sure to read the fine print, sale hours may vary, offer void in some states.

Starbuck3733T · 03-16-2007, 08:18 AM

Pardon my dumb on this one, but can you just pull the dipstick to see how dirty the oil is?

I know the place I'm having my inpsection done (i bought the trukc out of state, where they don't do inspections) is probably going to give me a big "WTF" look when I hand them a filter that's bigger than the old one, but they're a very good local shop. I trust them a lot further than I can throw them.

In fact, I called to schedule the appt and asked if they'd also lube the zerks and shafts, JR's response was "we do that anyway!". This is why I like them... they think of stuff before I do.

Starbuck3733T · 03-16-2007, 12:57 PM

Full mobile 1 synthetic + napagold FIL1516, Oil is in, zerks are lubed...

I fired it up and immediately noticed that there was less engine noise, and it just felt smoother. I guess thats the M1. Time will tell with the filter.

AuburnRunner · 03-22-2007, 03:28 PM

I just installed the napa gold filter that fits the taurus on my 3.0... no clearance issues, fits great. Thanks

mt_goat · 03-22-2007, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AuburnRunner

I just installed the napa gold filter that fits the taurus on my 3.0... no clearance issues, fits great. Thanks

Yeah I just happen to have a 95 3.0 Taurus. It's nice to be able to buy the same filter for both.

MARSHALLMAY · 04-12-2007, 07:08 PM

I tried the longer taurus filter yesterday and it wouldn't fit. There is an end of a bolt that sticks out and keeps the filter from lining up. The bolt looks to be on a mount for the diff. Oh well.

AH64ID · 04-12-2007, 07:24 PM

Try the OEM filter for the 4.0 or 4.7, a hair larger but not much.... but it must be OEM as all aftermarket filters, that I have seen, are the same size as the 3.4 filter.

cackalak han · 05-31-2007, 03:09 PM

Sorry if I come off too pessimestic, but how much better are these bigger filters? As a previous poster stated, the Toyota OEM filters do the job fine. I'm just wondering what the benefits are from using these Ford filters. I can see how the Amsoil filter relocation kit will come in handy, but the Ford/NAPA filters, I don't see a reasoning for. Ok, so it's got 70% more filtering media, but does that mean 70% better filtering? If your filter starts to get clogged up, maybe that'll be a plus, but rarely do any of us enthusiasts go longer than is recommended for oil changes.

As far as I'm concerned, as long as our engines keep on truckin', I'll use OEM products.

AH64ID · 05-31-2007, 03:27 PM

Bigger filter of same build design will filter better... Now if you use a really good OEM size and a crappy ford size then no you probably wont see any gains...

I will have some visual data from OEM filter to Amsoil/Wix setup, about 200 miles to go..

Elton · 05-31-2007, 03:29 PM

ive used them twice works fine heres a pic the old one i use sand paper to get it off so thats why it looks like that
clicky

01-21-2007, 04:21 PM	#27 (permalink)
Elton Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Siletz,Oregon Posts: 10,464	the napa gold filter 1516 fits fine theres a hose above the filter thats kinda in the way so a bigger filter may not work i have some pics of new filter compared to the old i can post up if needed.... also doing a oil change sucks more and more every time i change it __________________ My Truck 98 4runner SR5 3.4L 5spd 4x4 E-Locker Mods Mom 07 Tundra d-cab limited 5.7L 4x4 auto sister 92 pickup SR5 X-cab 3.0L 5spd 4x4 Papa 89 Pickup SR5 X-cab 4x4 3.0L 5spd/98 4runner SR5 4x4 auto 3.4L R.I.P 91 4runner SR5 4x4 3.0L 5spd Totaled 5/13/06 My Wreck Last edited by Elton; 01-21-2007 at 04:23 PM.

01-30-2007, 09:47 PM	#28 (permalink)
UNR.Grad Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Reno, NV / S. Tahoe, CA Posts: 927	Random, but my girlfriend's 2001 Saturn SC2 uses the same filter as ours, looks like I'll upgrade her to the 1516 also, thanks for the info! __________________ 2000 Silver 4runner :Highlander Edition: - Tundra TRD Coils/Blue Tokico Struts w/spacer- Downey Coils/N86 Shocks - Front Dif. Drop - Rear Dif. Breather - E-Brake Extension - Tundra Calipers/Rotors - Akebono Ceramic Pads - Goodrich SS Brake Lines - LX450 Wheels w/ 265/75/16 BFG A/T KO's and Full Size Spare - TRD Exhaust - Deckplate w/ Trueflow - Hayden Tranny Cooler - JAOS Rear Spoiler - Sport Skid - '01 Tails - Clear Corners/Bumper Lights - Leather Seats - Alpine CD player

02-05-2007, 01:52 PM	#29 (permalink)
Cargun Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 483	I'd be worried about the bypass valve difference. That Ford filter will filter less oil than the Toyota specific filter. What's the use of having a filter if the oil isn't flowing through it? And if you're worried about clogging the filter, you're waiting WAY too long between changes. That doesn't look like a trade-off I'd make on a vehicle I was planning on putting 250k on. __________________ I own 11 vehicles... 10 of which are ongoing projects. I need to sell some stuff so I can turn the 11th into a project. Let me know if you're in need of a Yota transfer case, solid front axle, 22R motor, or rear axleshafts. I promise all proceeds will be directed back into the local 4x4 economy (Ok... Marlin may get some of the money) .

03-13-2007, 05:42 AM	#31 (permalink)
Hugo Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Charlesbourg (Qc) Posts: 181	So is anyone using the bigger one yet? __________________ Hugo Lafreniere 1999 Toyota 4runner SR5 V6 5 speed - not stock - sold FTL :( 1999 BMW ///M3 convertible 5 speed - not stock 2005 Subaru Legacy GT Limited Wagon 5 speed - not stock

03-13-2007, 06:36 AM	#32 (permalink)
Intrepid Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ashburnham, MA Posts: 2,711	I just changed the oil in my 4.7L Tundra on Saturday and the 3.0L ford taurus filter fits great, no leaks, no problems. __________________ www.toyotacrawlers.com '85 4runner: 4.7's, FoxFab sliders, custom bumpers, 1" body lift, F-150 springs rear, lockright, welded third, IFS rear axle, 1.5" wheel spacers, high-steer, rears up front, Longs, 38" SX's on steelies, 12Voltguy dual battery, soft top, BMW seats. NO LONGER lacking an engine. :D :D

03-14-2007, 08:34 AM	#34 (permalink)
Starbuck3733T Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: State College, PA Posts: 165	Gonna give this a shot in my 'runner later! __________________ Trust me, I'm an engineer. 2002 4Runner 5VZ-FE 61K Limited 4WD Now: Kenwood CD Head + Custom iPod interface, Pheonix Gold M50 amp + JL 12W0 sub, Mobile 1 synthetic, napa gold oversized filter (FIL1516), ISR mod, running boards = !buhleted! Sooner: Deckplate, bigger mudders: 32? 33? Later: 1.5" body lift, 2.5" suspension lift of some variety. (undecided) SigSauer P229 .40 S&W Equipped! RIP 1994 4Runner SR5 5spd MT, 31x10.50 Dunlop Mudders, 186K 3VZE blown engine.

03-15-2007, 07:14 AM	#36 (permalink)
Starbuck3733T Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: State College, PA Posts: 165	The weather has gone back to being terrible here, so I'm doing this friday. Have Mobile 1 and Napa Gold, will travel. __________________ Trust me, I'm an engineer. 2002 4Runner 5VZ-FE 61K Limited 4WD Now: Kenwood CD Head + Custom iPod interface, Pheonix Gold M50 amp + JL 12W0 sub, Mobile 1 synthetic, napa gold oversized filter (FIL1516), ISR mod, running boards = !buhleted! Sooner: Deckplate, bigger mudders: 32? 33? Later: 1.5" body lift, 2.5" suspension lift of some variety. (undecided) SigSauer P229 .40 S&W Equipped! RIP 1994 4Runner SR5 5spd MT, 31x10.50 Dunlop Mudders, 186K 3VZE blown engine.

03-15-2007, 04:01 PM	#37 (permalink)
mt_goat Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oklahoma State Posts: 8,863	Napa has a sale on their oil filters today only, I got 4 of the Napa Gold 1516 for $12.48 or $3.12 each. The guy said they only have this sale twice a year and for one day only. Sorry I couldn't give more notice about it but there's still a few hours left before they close. __________________ ~Dale~ 93 4X4 ext-cab, auto, SR5, 3.4 V6, supercharged, 2.1" pulley, URD fuel mods, Aquamist WI, IPT valve body mod, dual cases, 4" superlift front, Alcan springs rear, 33 BFG MT, ARB locked front & rear, 5.29 US Gears, RB 1" Body Lift, 1.5" ball joint spacers, manual hubs, TJM T-17, Warn m8000.

03-15-2007, 04:12 PM	#38 (permalink)
RustBucket Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 975	So does anyone have a list of filters that will fit the 22re block? __________________ Rust-Free '88 Runner. Stay-at-home truck.

03-16-2007, 08:18 AM	#42 (permalink)
Starbuck3733T Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: State College, PA Posts: 165	Pardon my dumb on this one, but can you just pull the dipstick to see how dirty the oil is? I know the place I'm having my inpsection done (i bought the trukc out of state, where they don't do inspections) is probably going to give me a big "WTF" look when I hand them a filter that's bigger than the old one, but they're a very good local shop. I trust them a lot further than I can throw them. In fact, I called to schedule the appt and asked if they'd also lube the zerks and shafts, JR's response was "we do that anyway!". This is why I like them... they think of stuff before I do. __________________ Trust me, I'm an engineer. 2002 4Runner 5VZ-FE 61K Limited 4WD Now: Kenwood CD Head + Custom iPod interface, Pheonix Gold M50 amp + JL 12W0 sub, Mobile 1 synthetic, napa gold oversized filter (FIL1516), ISR mod, running boards = !buhleted! Sooner: Deckplate, bigger mudders: 32? 33? Later: 1.5" body lift, 2.5" suspension lift of some variety. (undecided) SigSauer P229 .40 S&W Equipped! RIP 1994 4Runner SR5 5spd MT, 31x10.50 Dunlop Mudders, 186K 3VZE blown engine.

03-16-2007, 12:57 PM	#43 (permalink)
Starbuck3733T Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: State College, PA Posts: 165	Full mobile 1 synthetic + napagold FIL1516, Oil is in, zerks are lubed... I fired it up and immediately noticed that there was less engine noise, and it just felt smoother. I guess thats the M1. Time will tell with the filter. __________________ Trust me, I'm an engineer. 2002 4Runner 5VZ-FE 61K Limited 4WD Now: Kenwood CD Head + Custom iPod interface, Pheonix Gold M50 amp + JL 12W0 sub, Mobile 1 synthetic, napa gold oversized filter (FIL1516), ISR mod, running boards = !buhleted! Sooner: Deckplate, bigger mudders: 32? 33? Later: 1.5" body lift, 2.5" suspension lift of some variety. (undecided) SigSauer P229 .40 S&W Equipped! RIP 1994 4Runner SR5 5spd MT, 31x10.50 Dunlop Mudders, 186K 3VZE blown engine.

04-12-2007, 07:08 PM	#46 (permalink)
MARSHALLMAY Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Texas, America Posts: 168	I tried the longer taurus filter yesterday and it wouldn't fit. There is an end of a bolt that sticks out and keeps the filter from lining up. The bolt looks to be on a mount for the diff. Oh well. __________________ We are the people bred, raised and nurtured to maturation to live life in the pursuit of acquiring status-ensuring product in a never ending pilgrimage to find value in ourselves through the indulgence of materialism...gotta love it oh yea, 98 4x4 ltd for sale Last edited by MARSHALLMAY; 04-12-2007 at 07:09 PM.

04-12-2007, 07:24 PM	#47 (permalink)
AH64ID Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Idaho Posts: 4,637	Try the OEM filter for the 4.0 or 4.7, a hair larger but not much.... but it must be OEM as all aftermarket filters, that I have seen, are the same size as the 3.4 filter. __________________ -John '05 Dodge 3500 SRW 4x4 SLT 5.9 Cummins QC LB NV5600 6 Spd, Pricol EGT and boost, 2" Level, Jake Brake, Muffler Delete, filtered, lubed and bypassed by Amsoil, Mag-Hytec Rear, Fast Coolers, Baldwin 7977, Smarty JR SW#1, Toyo 285's... 2003 SR5 4Runner, V6 4WD. 1" cornfed lift Previous Toyota's '92 Red Truck NALA Speed doesn't kill, its the sudden stop that hurts.

05-31-2007, 03:09 PM	#48 (permalink)
cackalak han Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Salt Lake Posts: 1,767	Sorry if I come off too pessimestic, but how much better are these bigger filters? As a previous poster stated, the Toyota OEM filters do the job fine. I'm just wondering what the benefits are from using these Ford filters. I can see how the Amsoil filter relocation kit will come in handy, but the Ford/NAPA filters, I don't see a reasoning for. Ok, so it's got 70% more filtering media, but does that mean 70% better filtering? If your filter starts to get clogged up, maybe that'll be a plus, but rarely do any of us enthusiasts go longer than is recommended for oil changes. As far as I'm concerned, as long as our engines keep on truckin', I'll use OEM products. __________________ 01 Tacoma DC TRD OR 4x4

05-31-2007, 03:27 PM	#49 (permalink)
AH64ID Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Idaho Posts: 4,637	Bigger filter of same build design will filter better... Now if you use a really good OEM size and a crappy ford size then no you probably wont see any gains... I will have some visual data from OEM filter to Amsoil/Wix setup, about 200 miles to go.. __________________ -John '05 Dodge 3500 SRW 4x4 SLT 5.9 Cummins QC LB NV5600 6 Spd, Pricol EGT and boost, 2" Level, Jake Brake, Muffler Delete, filtered, lubed and bypassed by Amsoil, Mag-Hytec Rear, Fast Coolers, Baldwin 7977, Smarty JR SW#1, Toyo 285's... 2003 SR5 4Runner, V6 4WD. 1" cornfed lift Previous Toyota's '92 Red Truck NALA Speed doesn't kill, its the sudden stop that hurts.

05-31-2007, 03:29 PM	#50 (permalink)
Elton Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Siletz,Oregon Posts: 10,464	ive used them twice works fine heres a pic the old one i use sand paper to get it off so thats why it looks like that clicky __________________ My Truck 98 4runner SR5 3.4L 5spd 4x4 E-Locker Mods Mom 07 Tundra d-cab limited 5.7L 4x4 auto sister 92 pickup SR5 X-cab 3.0L 5spd 4x4 Papa 89 Pickup SR5 X-cab 4x4 3.0L 5spd/98 4runner SR5 4x4 auto 3.4L R.I.P 91 4runner SR5 4x4 3.0L 5spd Totaled 5/13/06 My Wreck

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