Kz-te 3.0l
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Kz-te 3.0l
I'm thinking of fitting a Toyota 3.0L (KZTE)Turbo diesel into my 4 Runner.
Current transmission is a W56. Does anyone know if the KZTE bellhousing/engine bolt pattern is the same as the 2.4 Diesel.
Or are the bellhousing/Gearbox bolt patterns for the W56 transmission and the KZTE transmission the same.
Or alternately, is there a conversion bellhousing out there somewhere ?
Any info, plese e-mail me.
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Current transmission is a W56. Does anyone know if the KZTE bellhousing/engine bolt pattern is the same as the 2.4 Diesel.
Or are the bellhousing/Gearbox bolt patterns for the W56 transmission and the KZTE transmission the same.
Or alternately, is there a conversion bellhousing out there somewhere ?
Any info, plese e-mail me.
Thanks
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This is what I've gathered from other research I've done.
If the vehicle the engine came out of has the same tranny, then get the bellhhousing too. If the tranny was different, you'll either need to fab one, or get the same tranny that was on the engine.
Take with a grain of salt though, since this is based on info I've gotten in researching auto trannys and switching the 3.0 with the 3.4 (or 7MGE).
I hope I didn't confuse things further.
If the vehicle the engine came out of has the same tranny, then get the bellhhousing too. If the tranny was different, you'll either need to fab one, or get the same tranny that was on the engine.
Take with a grain of salt though, since this is based on info I've gotten in researching auto trannys and switching the 3.0 with the 3.4 (or 7MGE).
I hope I didn't confuse things further.
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Cebby,
Yep you absolutely right i was thinking the same, ie. if the tranny is different to go for the bellhousing from the 3.0D engine, or get the tranny that comes with the 3.0D engine.
I'm just hoping that that my 2.4D tranny or bellhousing bolt patterns match those of iether the replacement engine or transmission.
That will save me a lot of time and money.
Hoping that someone knows these engine/tranny bolt patterns
Yep you absolutely right i was thinking the same, ie. if the tranny is different to go for the bellhousing from the 3.0D engine, or get the tranny that comes with the 3.0D engine.
I'm just hoping that that my 2.4D tranny or bellhousing bolt patterns match those of iether the replacement engine or transmission.
That will save me a lot of time and money.
Hoping that someone knows these engine/tranny bolt patterns
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You'r out of luck. A W gearbox from a 2L or 2L-T engine is different from a 1KZ-TE (and a lot weaker).
The OEM gearbox behind a 1KZ-TE is a R151 or R151F. That should be interchangeble with the gearbox from a V6, but my guess is that the bellhousing is different since its a diesel. It has the starter on the oposite side.
Do you have a electronic (160 hp)or mechanical (120hp) injected 1KZ-TE? If it's electronic you definately need the entire wiring loom and computer or it will never work.
The OEM gearbox behind a 1KZ-TE is a R151 or R151F. That should be interchangeble with the gearbox from a V6, but my guess is that the bellhousing is different since its a diesel. It has the starter on the oposite side.
Do you have a electronic (160 hp)or mechanical (120hp) injected 1KZ-TE? If it's electronic you definately need the entire wiring loom and computer or it will never work.
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Your current transfer case is geared and very desirable. Marlin Crawler and a few other places sell the adapter to bolt it behind the R150F. If you can get the complete R151F from the diesel truck do it since your transfer case should bolt up.
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W and R gearboxes are not compatibel. The W series go to about 120 hp and the R series can handle up to 250 hp. The R series is a lot larger than the W series.
The Landcruiser Prado gearboxes are also different. They have the front prop shaft on the left side instead of on the right side like a Hilux. So a gearbox from a Runner with a 1KZ-TE would be your best option. If you can find one.
The Landcruiser Prado gearboxes are also different. They have the front prop shaft on the left side instead of on the right side like a Hilux. So a gearbox from a Runner with a 1KZ-TE would be your best option. If you can find one.
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This may be a long shot,
Got info from a bloke at a salvage yard who says the bellhousing from the 2.7i petrol (hilux or condor) will fit the Kzte engine and will bolt onto my current transmission.
Anyone out there who can back this claim ?
Got info from a bloke at a salvage yard who says the bellhousing from the 2.7i petrol (hilux or condor) will fit the Kzte engine and will bolt onto my current transmission.
Anyone out there who can back this claim ?
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This is what you do. Send a diesel engine + tranny to me in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma USA. and i will do all of the gueswork for you. I will install it in my truck and send you instructions.
I think that sounds like a great deal for you!!
I think that sounds like a great deal for you!!
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Guys, forgive my ignorance. Is this 3.0 diesel the same block as the 3.slow? If it is..... i'd seriously think about that swap when my 3.0 buys the farm. Isnt there a guy from Tex. on here w/ one getting 35 mpg?
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They are totaly different. The 3.0 slow is a V6 and the 3.0 diesel (1KZ-TE) is a 4 banger.
And yes, with the older 3.0 diesel (3L) a milage as low as 25-30 mpg is easily achieved. And you have more torque. Recently fitted a 3L with a turbo and mounted it in a '90 Hilux double cab (OEM solid front axle!). The guy is very pleased with both the economy and power.
My old 3VZE (aka 3.slow) never came close to that performance and had double the fuel consumption. Plus gasoline is 30-40 % more expensice than diesel fuel in Holland. Really dried out my wallet. I was really happy when it finally died and I had a good reason to put in the supra 7M-GE.
And yes, with the older 3.0 diesel (3L) a milage as low as 25-30 mpg is easily achieved. And you have more torque. Recently fitted a 3L with a turbo and mounted it in a '90 Hilux double cab (OEM solid front axle!). The guy is very pleased with both the economy and power.
My old 3VZE (aka 3.slow) never came close to that performance and had double the fuel consumption. Plus gasoline is 30-40 % more expensice than diesel fuel in Holland. Really dried out my wallet. I was really happy when it finally died and I had a good reason to put in the supra 7M-GE.
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There are a lot of mountain passes here, where the natrually aspirated diesels suffer more than turbo's on the higher altitudes and inclines.
For obvious reasons that's why i'm thinking of the kzte, although it may be heavier on fuel.
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You mention milage of the older diesels at around 25-30 mpg.
I'm used to dealing in Km/Liters, would that be heavy and how does your 7m-ge compare?
Still weiging up my options...and no livelarg..you cannot have the kzte...lol
For obvious reasons that's why i'm thinking of the kzte, although it may be heavier on fuel.
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You mention milage of the older diesels at around 25-30 mpg.
I'm used to dealing in Km/Liters, would that be heavy and how does your 7m-ge compare?
Still weiging up my options...and no livelarg..you cannot have the kzte...lol
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I'm actually also used to km and liters so: a 3L can get up to1 liter per 14-15 km. If you don't have a lead right foot.
My old 2L's all used 1 liter per 8-10 km. And my last 2L-T used 1 liter per 7km. And that's all milage a la the fast and furious. And with 33's, 6 inch lift etc.
O, and the 7M-GE sucks up 1 liter per 6-9 km depending if I am driving or my wife. I try to squeeze as much horses out of it as possible
My old 2L's all used 1 liter per 8-10 km. And my last 2L-T used 1 liter per 7km. And that's all milage a la the fast and furious. And with 33's, 6 inch lift etc.
O, and the 7M-GE sucks up 1 liter per 6-9 km depending if I am driving or my wife. I try to squeeze as much horses out of it as possible
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P.C did the horrid thang an crashhed on me !
Now i'm going to throw another spanner into the works here.
Anyone know of the GM 4.3 V6 Diesel. I got one of these babies sitting in my garage awaiting a Toy body.
This is something i bieng toying with as a transplant for some time, but are sitting with the problem of a bellhousing to mate either my Toyota box, or an adapter plate to match the Th 700.
Any ideas where i can get one at a reasonable price for my South African Rand ?
Now i'm going to throw another spanner into the works here.
Anyone know of the GM 4.3 V6 Diesel. I got one of these babies sitting in my garage awaiting a Toy body.
This is something i bieng toying with as a transplant for some time, but are sitting with the problem of a bellhousing to mate either my Toyota box, or an adapter plate to match the Th 700.
Any ideas where i can get one at a reasonable price for my South African Rand ?
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Why do you not use the toyota 4.2 turbo from a Landcruiser? Enough horses and torque, lots of parts and na matting up to perform.
These should be plenty available in SA I think. They are quit common in Holland, especially the LC 80 and 100 series (225 hp!).
These should be plenty available in SA I think. They are quit common in Holland, especially the LC 80 and 100 series (225 hp!).
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4Runner4ever,
I agree the 4.2 is awsome. But just as much as it is powerfull so is it expensive.
To buy a second hand one(if you can find one) will cost an arm &leg. To rebuild will be just as much.
Be an interesting though with the small frame of a 4 Runner, engine will never do a hard days work.
I agree the 4.2 is awsome. But just as much as it is powerfull so is it expensive.
To buy a second hand one(if you can find one) will cost an arm &leg. To rebuild will be just as much.
Be an interesting though with the small frame of a 4 Runner, engine will never do a hard days work.
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