KYB Shocks - anyone have em?

bbeast · 02-18-2004, 09:59 AM

Well, just bored at work, and dreamin of having a smoother ride for the long trip home....... So anyone have any real world experience with KYB on a 3rd Gen? They make both the Gas-A-Just and Monotube versions (which would be more appropriate, I don't really know). I'm just looking for something that will handle on par with the Bilsteins, but have a smoother ride - doesn't have to be KYB of course.

Thanks all,

Brad

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X-AWDriver · 02-18-2004, 10:08 AM

I'm not sure but I think the OEM shocks are actually Tokicos but correct me if I'm wrong.

SLC Punk · 02-18-2004, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X-AWDriver

I'm not sure but I think the OEM shocks are actually Tokicos but correct me if I'm wrong.

You are correct

bbeast · 02-18-2004, 11:58 AM

So I guess that rules the Tokico shocks out! I was checking shox.com and they have those (Tokico's), Bils and KYB shocks (doesn't mention which type, but they are the cheapest of the three at $209) listed for our application. I've heard that Koni makes coil-overs for our trucks, but I can't seem to find any info actually supporting that notion. Who sells these and what part number? Anybody know?.......

Toyo_Master · 02-18-2004, 01:19 PM

I put a set of KYB's on my Diesel F250 Ford a couple years ago. They made the truck ride like a covered wagon.

The gas pressure in KYB's is very high and there's very little give in them. On a lighter truck I can't even imagine how stiff it would make the ride. If that's what you are looking for then you found the shocks you need. I had the "Gas-A-Just" but they were still a mono tube design. I actually was able to put less air in my Air Rides when hauling my 11' camper around. That will tell you how stiff they are. If you're looking for a smoother ride from your truck I wouldn't put on KYB's. Look to adjustable Rancho 9000's and you can adjust your ride according to conditions.

Toyo Master

gapguy · 02-18-2004, 02:58 PM

I have gas-a-justs. They came with my car, I've put 11k miles on them. The car does ride VERY bumpy and rough. Maybe there worn out, maybe not. Handling is very good compared to other 4runners I've driven.

Toyo_Master · 02-18-2004, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gapguy

I have gas-a-justs. They came with my car, I've put 11k miles on them. The car does ride VERY bumpy and rough. Maybe there worn out, maybe not. Handling is very good compared to other 4runners I've driven.

Oh yeah, my Ford handled like a sportscar with them on but rode like

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89-4run · 02-18-2004, 03:56 PM

I had them. They started leaking after 4 years. They did not handle very well coming down the mtns in colorado - made me nervous. I ditched them and put bils on and I couldn't be happier. Almost night and day. I've slowly regained confidence in cornering again.... just my .02.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gapguy

I have gas-a-justs. They came with my car, I've put 11k miles on them. The car does ride VERY bumpy and rough. Maybe there worn out, maybe not. Handling is very good compared to other 4runners I've driven.

tenfourtyeight · 02-18-2004, 04:41 PM

That's why they're called 'Kill Your Back' shocks.

I got Pro-Comp ES9000 shocks and an ES2000 steering stabilizer, and am amazed at the quality, strength, and ride for such an inexpensive product. I installed the shocks thursday, and was at the desert all weekend. They are great offroad, and not too stiff on road. Sad part was, I only drove my truck half the day saturday. My clutch died, and it came home on a trailer.

But the shocks are good. And it feels like the steering wheel is independant from the wheels. No bumps at all, even offroad.

89-4run · 02-18-2004, 07:23 PM

So the stabalizer made a difference? Just askin' cuz I've been thinking about putting a new one on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tenfourtyeight

That's why they're called 'Kill Your Back' shocks.

I got Pro-Comp ES9000 shocks and an ES2000 steering stabilizer, and am amazed at the quality, strength, and ride for such an inexpensive product. I installed the shocks thursday, and was at the desert all weekend. They are great offroad, and not too stiff on road. Sad part was, I only drove my truck half the day saturday. My clutch died, and it came home on a trailer.

But the shocks are good. And it feels like the steering wheel is independant from the wheels. No bumps at all, even offroad.

tenfourtyeight · 02-18-2004, 09:29 PM

Definitely made a difference. I couldn't offroad without it now. Sooo much smoother off road.

X-AWDriver · 02-19-2004, 06:59 AM

I'm doing some hijacking: Who makes the TRD package springs? What springs go well with Bils and who has the best prices?

Sorry for the questions but the "search" is down and I'm getting ready to install the Bils and I figured spring should go on at the same time of course.

bbeast · 02-19-2004, 08:17 AM

Well thanx guys for all your posts. I'm getting the sense the the KYB's are not the way to go for what I'm trying to achieve - love the "Kill-Your-Back" comment

. Perhaps I'm being unreasonable with wanting performance on-road handling and a smoother ride on a 4000lb truck.
Any word on these mythical Koni coil-overs??

Mulkey · 02-19-2004, 08:37 AM

I would talk to Mike at http://xtremeoff-road.com/ He is on this forum and knows a lot about yota supensions.

02-18-2004, 10:08 AM	#2 (permalink)
X-AWDriver Contributing Member Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton,CO Posts: 10,551	I'm not sure but I think the OEM shocks are actually Tokicos but correct me if I'm wrong. __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander 4wd E-locker,rear diff and deckplate mod * 265/75/16 Nitto TerraGrapplers * Yakima Load Warrior rack * clear corners/signals * Tacoma skidplate * Silverstar lamps/fogs Alpine CDA-9831,Bazooka EL Series 250w amp,MTX 10" sub

02-18-2004, 11:58 AM	#4 (permalink)
bbeast Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) [OP] Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: TriState Posts: 139	Tokico....... So I guess that rules the Tokico shocks out! I was checking shox.com and they have those (Tokico's), Bils and KYB shocks (doesn't mention which type, but they are the cheapest of the three at $209) listed for our application. I've heard that Koni makes coil-overs for our trucks, but I can't seem to find any info actually supporting that notion. Who sells these and what part number? Anybody know?....... __________________ '96 4Runner SR5, 5 spd, TRD 1st Gen S/C, TRD Headers, TRD Cat-Back Exhaust, Deckplate/ISR mod, Flex-a-Lite Fan, SMT-6, Custom Additional Injector Install, Bilstein HD's, Addco Sway Bars f/r, Various Stereo and Video mods......

02-18-2004, 01:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
Toyo_Master Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Cobb, CA Posts: 37	I put a set of KYB's on my Diesel F250 Ford a couple years ago. They made the truck ride like a covered wagon. The gas pressure in KYB's is very high and there's very little give in them. On a lighter truck I can't even imagine how stiff it would make the ride. If that's what you are looking for then you found the shocks you need. I had the "Gas-A-Just" but they were still a mono tube design. I actually was able to put less air in my Air Rides when hauling my 11' camper around. That will tell you how stiff they are. If you're looking for a smoother ride from your truck I wouldn't put on KYB's. Look to adjustable Rancho 9000's and you can adjust your ride according to conditions. Toyo Master __________________ New and proud owner of a used 1994 Toyota Extra Cab 4X4, Black, 4" lift, 3" body lift, 3.slow. 3" exhaust, Flowmaster, synthetic everything. Runs better without the K&N drop in.

02-18-2004, 02:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
gapguy Contributing Member Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 3,534	I have gas-a-justs. They came with my car, I've put 11k miles on them. The car does ride VERY bumpy and rough. Maybe there worn out, maybe not. Handling is very good compared to other 4runners I've driven. __________________ 05 Tacoma AC TRD Sport 4wd

02-18-2004, 04:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
tenfourtyeight Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Vista, Ca Posts: 602	That's why they're called 'Kill Your Back' shocks. I got Pro-Comp ES9000 shocks and an ES2000 steering stabilizer, and am amazed at the quality, strength, and ride for such an inexpensive product. I installed the shocks thursday, and was at the desert all weekend. They are great offroad, and not too stiff on road. Sad part was, I only drove my truck half the day saturday. My clutch died, and it came home on a trailer. But the shocks are good. And it feels like the steering wheel is independant from the wheels. No bumps at all, even offroad. __________________ White truck with black tires and stuff.

02-18-2004, 09:29 PM	#11 (permalink)
tenfourtyeight Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Vista, Ca Posts: 602	Definitely made a difference. I couldn't offroad without it now. Sooo much smoother off road. __________________ White truck with black tires and stuff.

02-19-2004, 06:59 AM	#12 (permalink)
X-AWDriver Contributing Member Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton,CO Posts: 10,551	I'm doing some hijacking: Who makes the TRD package springs? What springs go well with Bils and who has the best prices? Sorry for the questions but the "search" is down and I'm getting ready to install the Bils and I figured spring should go on at the same time of course. __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander 4wd E-locker,rear diff and deckplate mod * 265/75/16 Nitto TerraGrapplers * Yakima Load Warrior rack * clear corners/signals * Tacoma skidplate * Silverstar lamps/fogs Alpine CDA-9831,Bazooka EL Series 250w amp,MTX 10" sub

02-19-2004, 08:17 AM	#13 (permalink)
bbeast Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) [OP] Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: TriState Posts: 139	Well thanx guys for all your posts. I'm getting the sense the the KYB's are not the way to go for what I'm trying to achieve - love the "Kill-Your-Back" comment . Perhaps I'm being unreasonable with wanting performance on-road handling and a smoother ride on a 4000lb truck. Any word on these mythical Koni coil-overs?? __________________ '96 4Runner SR5, 5 spd, TRD 1st Gen S/C, TRD Headers, TRD Cat-Back Exhaust, Deckplate/ISR mod, Flex-a-Lite Fan, SMT-6, Custom Additional Injector Install, Bilstein HD's, Addco Sway Bars f/r, Various Stereo and Video mods......

02-19-2004, 08:37 AM	#14 (permalink)
Mulkey Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Vail, CO- originally from Charleston Posts: 343	I would talk to Mike at http://xtremeoff-road.com/ He is on this forum and knows a lot about yota supensions. __________________ 2K 4Runner Limited 4X4 2nd Gen TRD S/C LT265/75/16 REVO's OME 881/890 Last edited by Mulkey; 02-19-2004 at 08:39 AM.

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