I need brake bleeding input please....

Arron · 08-17-2006, 07:55 PM

Just finished new rear seals ( not to bad f a job if i say so myself, thanks to help from here ). So while i had the tires off i bleed ( blead past tense? ) the brake lines. Got the wife to pump a few times, and some fluid trickled out... i didn’t think she was pumping to hard hence the trickle... Anyhow when i got her off the blocks and all, she needed some fluid, as in the reservoir was empty. It was sitting for a few days on blocks while i got a dealer to press in the new parts, caped of as best i could, and a little fluid leaked. I had a tray under it, and nowhere close to the reservoir leaked out, maybe 1/10th.

So i got the reservoir filled up, and the brakes are still very soft. Could it be possible that the other wheels leaked out threw the one that was off, will i have to bleed all 4? I was planning on re-bleeding that one that was apart but thought i should get a little input b4 i try again.

Thanks

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**waskillywabbit** · 08-17-2006, 08:07 PM

If you drained the reservoir, you will have to bleed the master cylinder, then the brakes again, starting at pass rear, driver rear, pass front then the driver front. If you are unsure how to bleed brakes properly, lots of 411 on the net about it.

Spanky · 08-17-2006, 08:10 PM

wow i had to read that a few times and i still do not know what you are asking!

Arron · 08-17-2006, 08:16 PM

oh my.... bummer..... how do i bleed the master cylinder?? sounds like a mess, maybe ill get a local brake shop to bleed it for me.

Spanky · 08-17-2006, 08:22 PM

i needed mine bleed, didnt have a bleeder so i took it to midas and had it done for like $70 bucks... coulda bought one and done it myself for that price... and have owned a brake bleeder!

Arron · 08-17-2006, 08:27 PM

just need a clear rubber hose anyhow, and a friend to pump it. Sites say this is most effective, as well a gravity meathod.... Anyhow ive seen shops do this with pumping the brakes, very quick and simple job, for 70$ ill give it a try myself, just no idea how to bleed the master cylinder yet.

Spanky · 08-17-2006, 08:33 PM

BTW. . . . your avatar is pretty damn funny! haha

wjwerdna · 08-17-2006, 08:38 PM

(bled = past tense of bleed or bleeding

)

Spanky · 08-17-2006, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wjwerdna

(bled = past tense of bleed or bleeding

)

haha :pat:

Arron · 08-18-2006, 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wjwerdna

(bled = past tense of bleed or bleeding

)

Thanks, my spell check was of no help for bleed. bleeding and bled. I have looked around some with no luck finding a post on bleeding the master cylinder for a 4rnr. Anyone know of a tech writeup or a link or something?

I love the avatar as well, there are many meanings to it, the dirty guys in here will think one thing...... I hope its a ok avatar!

Arron · 08-18-2006, 02:39 PM

Ok done some reading and searching. Best info i could find is http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/mainte...chmaintenance/ . Dont look so bad i guess. By bleeding the slave cylinder, will it bleed the master cylinder as well, or is there a seperate process for that? I looked on the master and there is no bleed nipple, just 2 brake leads coming off, and a third hole with a nut in it. My shop book only has how to purge the master while its on a bench, not while installed.

Can someone shed some light on the master cylinder for me, to make sure i do it right? Thanks.

CyMoN · 08-18-2006, 03:27 PM

keep it filled up while bleeding the brakes i did mine last week also it will help to use a hand held vac pump 30$ at auto zone also dose not hurt to remove you bleeder nips and put some teflon tape on them, you will get a better seal and no air will come in while you have a vac on the line,the most important thing is to keep the res full at all times and if you are at this point of bleeding your brakes it is best to flush them ,brake fluid draws water in over time so when it gets cold out you can get ice in your brakes also at that time you might want to rebuild the cylinders if the pistons are still in good shape,a rebuild kit costs around 10$ to 15$ at NAPA they will not have them in stock but it only takes a few days for them to come in on order.
when i rebuilt my brakes there was a lot of crud in them now the fluid is clear as glass and i can stop alot better now, my brakes lock up again if i have to stomp on them.
on a side note i had bought some carbon metallic pads paid 50$ for them had them for a month on the truck rebuilt the cyliners and still had stopping problems bought some none carbon metallic and they worked a whole lot better.

good luck

08-17-2006, 08:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
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08-17-2006, 08:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
Spanky Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: salt lake city utah Posts: 516	wow i had to read that a few times and i still do not know what you are asking! __________________ 1992 Toyota Truck 22re 5 Spd (194K and going!) Magnaflow Highflow Cat Flowmaster 40 Series Muffler 2.25" Pipes K&N Air Filter Airbox Mod, AFM Mod, 2" Body Lift BFG All Terrain 31x10.50's American Racing "Chamber" Wheels 15x8

08-17-2006, 08:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
Arron Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Montreal, QC, Canada Posts: 49	oh my.... bummer..... how do i bleed the master cylinder?? sounds like a mess, maybe ill get a local brake shop to bleed it for me. __________________ Arron

08-17-2006, 08:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
Spanky Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: salt lake city utah Posts: 516	i needed mine bleed, didnt have a bleeder so i took it to midas and had it done for like $70 bucks... coulda bought one and done it myself for that price... and have owned a brake bleeder! __________________ 1992 Toyota Truck 22re 5 Spd (194K and going!) Magnaflow Highflow Cat Flowmaster 40 Series Muffler 2.25" Pipes K&N Air Filter Airbox Mod, AFM Mod, 2" Body Lift BFG All Terrain 31x10.50's American Racing "Chamber" Wheels 15x8 Last edited by Spanky; 08-17-2006 at 08:26 PM.

08-17-2006, 08:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
Arron Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Montreal, QC, Canada Posts: 49	just need a clear rubber hose anyhow, and a friend to pump it. Sites say this is most effective, as well a gravity meathod.... Anyhow ive seen shops do this with pumping the brakes, very quick and simple job, for 70$ ill give it a try myself, just no idea how to bleed the master cylinder yet. __________________ Arron

08-17-2006, 08:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
Spanky Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: salt lake city utah Posts: 516	BTW. . . . your avatar is pretty damn funny! haha __________________ 1992 Toyota Truck 22re 5 Spd (194K and going!) Magnaflow Highflow Cat Flowmaster 40 Series Muffler 2.25" Pipes K&N Air Filter Airbox Mod, AFM Mod, 2" Body Lift BFG All Terrain 31x10.50's American Racing "Chamber" Wheels 15x8

08-17-2006, 08:38 PM	#8 (permalink)
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08-18-2006, 02:39 PM	#11 (permalink)
Arron Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Montreal, QC, Canada Posts: 49	Ok done some reading and searching. Best info i could find is http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/mainte...chmaintenance/ . Dont look so bad i guess. By bleeding the slave cylinder, will it bleed the master cylinder as well, or is there a seperate process for that? I looked on the master and there is no bleed nipple, just 2 brake leads coming off, and a third hole with a nut in it. My shop book only has how to purge the master while its on a bench, not while installed. Can someone shed some light on the master cylinder for me, to make sure i do it right? Thanks. __________________ Arron

08-18-2006, 03:27 PM	#12 (permalink)
CyMoN Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: INDIANA Posts: 2,164	keep it filled up while bleeding the brakes i did mine last week also it will help to use a hand held vac pump 30$ at auto zone also dose not hurt to remove you bleeder nips and put some teflon tape on them, you will get a better seal and no air will come in while you have a vac on the line,the most important thing is to keep the res full at all times and if you are at this point of bleeding your brakes it is best to flush them ,brake fluid draws water in over time so when it gets cold out you can get ice in your brakes also at that time you might want to rebuild the cylinders if the pistons are still in good shape,a rebuild kit costs around 10$ to 15$ at NAPA they will not have them in stock but it only takes a few days for them to come in on order. when i rebuilt my brakes there was a lot of crud in them now the fluid is clear as glass and i can stop alot better now, my brakes lock up again if i have to stomp on them. on a side note i had bought some carbon metallic pads paid 50$ for them had them for a month on the truck rebuilt the cyliners and still had stopping problems bought some none carbon metallic and they worked a whole lot better. good luck __________________ my rigs 89 4runner 1989 4runner v6 5 speed everything factory +4susplift running bfg 31s and a aux gas tank and more aux lights than needed 86 pickup 1986 stock pickup 22r 31.10 BFG ATs flatbed a sad day for the 4runner "One moment of patience may ward off great disaster. One moment of impatience may ruin a whole life."

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