Got my 3rds

Cebby · 03-11-2004, 09:23 PM

I picked up my thirds today. V6 front and rear. The front is non-ADD (I think). Is this a problem? I run manual hubs and will eventually be going to dual cases.

Hey! How about some pics??

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Cebby · 03-12-2004, 04:17 AM

OK, looks like I got stuff I can't just bolt in.

The rear diff does not have a speed sensor for the ABS and the front doesn't have ADD. I'm sure I need a different rear 3rd, but can I swap over the ADD stuff to the front housing, or should I go to a yard and see if they'll switch with me? I wanted to use parts that would make swapping these in a fairly quick bolt up procedure.

keisur · 03-12-2004, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Cebby

OK, looks like I got stuff I can't just bolt in.

The rear diff does not have a speed sensor for the ABS and the front doesn't have ADD. I'm sure I need a different rear 3rd, but can I swap over the ADD stuff to the front housing, or should I go to a yard and see if they'll switch with me? I wanted to use parts that would make swapping these in a fairly quick bolt up procedure.

you didn't happen to get those from Randy's did you? they sent me the wrong front and it was a fiasco to get them to cross ship me the right one. basically they wanted to pull the locker out of the wrong one and reinstall it into the correct from one. nah, I wanted it straight out of the box.

anyway, did you get lockers installed in those?

Flygtenstein · 03-12-2004, 07:31 AM

If you have no hole in the rear for the ABS, that is a problem

The front is great though. Many people fit the short side tube on to eliminate the ADD sleeve all together. You can either install that front as it is or swap the side tube to your current diff. Think of it as moving up in the world.

KING · 03-12-2004, 07:33 AM

Are you going with ARB front and rear?

Cebby · 03-12-2004, 07:33 AM

Not from Randy's

No lockers yet. I'm getting them installed locally. I bought the 3rds from a POR member that's local here. I was so excited I found someone with 3rds to sell that I didn't check about the ADD and or the ABS snesor plug on the housing for the rear.

Am I right about the diffs not being something I can use? I can't believe I didn't look for that stuff...

Flygtenstein · 03-12-2004, 07:37 AM

To reiterate.

Rear=NO

Front=YES as is or YES if you swap the tube. The diff can be regeared with or without the tube on and the tube from the diff on your truck can be swapped to the third that is in the pic.

KING · 03-12-2004, 07:40 AM

You're throwing those in without lockers?! I don't get it.

keisur · 03-12-2004, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by KING

You're throwing those in without lockers?! I don't get it.

I have to agree here Cebby, while you got them out, you might as well drop in the ARB's to save time later. Assuming you have an extra $1400 laying around for the parts alone and then more for the labor.

AFRunner · 03-12-2004, 07:56 AM

I believe he is getting lockers installed...locally. Not going with Randy's...very wise
Aaron

keisur · 03-12-2004, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by AFRunner

Not going with Randy's...very wise
Aaron

You don't have to convince me...

I lurnt the hard way.

Cebby · 03-12-2004, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by KING

You're throwing those in without lockers?! I don't get it.

You are right. You don't get it.

4.10's with auto and 33's would not be a good combo. I already have 4.88's but its too peppy for me.

I'm going to see if I can swap a yard for something a little more suitable. I'm getting the overhaul kit from Randy's (Internet special) for $389 which I believe is front and rear gears, bearings and all that other crap. ARB Lockers from Wolfpack TLC. I already have an Extremeaire compressor.

keisur · 03-12-2004, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Cebby

I'm getting the overhaul kit from Randy's (Internet special) for $389 which I believe is front and rear gears, bearings and all that other crap. ARB Lockers from Wolfpack TLC. I already have an Extremeaire compressor.

hopefully your local shop is going to install it, or you are, and not Randy's. I'm sorry, I just can't express that enough can I?

Cebby · 03-12-2004, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by keisur

hopefully your local shop is going to install it, or you are, and not Randy's. I'm sorry, I just can't express that enough can I?

Are you saying I should have Randy's do it?

Oh drat, I'm confused now..

Oh whatever shall I do??

Cebby · 03-12-2004, 03:09 PM

Good news, I can return them and get my $$ back. Just heard from the seller. Wahoo!!

MNBOY · 03-12-2004, 03:36 PM

Mike,
You're just getting to be quite the smart-ass, aren't you? A little more sarcasm and I'll actually be able to understand what you're saying.

Churnd · 03-12-2004, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MNBOY

Mike,
You're just getting to be quite the smart-ass, aren't you? A little more sarcasm and I'll actually be able to understand what you're saying.

That's what Pirate4x4 does to ya.

toy283 · 03-12-2004, 05:29 PM

Just a random point of information; there is no such thing as a V6 front IFS diff. They're all the same. Only the rears are different.

keisur · 03-12-2004, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cebby

Are you saying I should have Randy's do it?

Oh drat, I'm confused now..

Oh whatever shall I do??

yes, you should send all the pieces to them and let their "crack" tech's do a bang-up job for you. Might I stress the use of the word "crack?" Hey maybe they'll throw in a couple rocks for you for free with the installation.

Glenn · 03-12-2004, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Flygtenstein

If you have no hole in the rear for the ABS, that is a problem

The front is great though. Many people fit the short side tube on to eliminate the ADD sleeve all together. You can either install that front as it is or swap the side tube to your current diff. Think of it as moving up in the world.

That was what I did when I did my regear. The diff I was putting in had the ADD which I didn't want. So I just swapped the stuff. Finding the sockets to work on those star shaped bolts was something I didn't expect to have to do.

keisur · 03-12-2004, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn

That was what I did when I did my regear. The diff I was putting in had the ADD which I didn't want. So I just swapped the stuff. Finding the sockets to work on those star shaped bolts was something I didn't expect to have to do.

me either, I'd looked at the thing a thousand times but it didn't sink in until I pull it and tried pulling the ADD assemlbly off to put it on the new one. An emergency trip to the Sears hardware store and $30 later I was in bidness. luckily the wife was home that day, otherwise it would have been up on blocks for a couple of days.

Glenn · 03-12-2004, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by toy283

Just a random point of information; there is no such thing as a V6 front IFS diff. They're all the same. Only the rears are different.

Yep, Dave is right on that. There isn't any difference between the front 3rds from the V6s and the 4 cylinder version. The rear is a little beefier.

Cebby · 03-12-2004, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Churnd

That's what Pirate4x4 does to ya.

Cebby · 03-12-2004, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flygtenstein

To reiterate.

Rear=NO

Front=YES as is or YES if you swap the tube. The diff can be regeared with or without the tube on and the tube from the diff on your truck can be swapped to the third that is in the pic.

Sorry, I missed your first post. Will my little "4WD" light still light up on the dash without the ADD gear? Simpler is definitely better IMO. So it's a step up to pull the ADD?

You've all got me reconsidering about returning them both...

keisur · 03-12-2004, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cebby

Sorry, I missed your first post. Will my little "4WD" light still light up on the dash without the ADD gear? Simpler is definitely better IMO. So it's a step up to pull the ADD?

You've all got me reconsidering about returning them both...

heck yea it's a step up. eliminating the drag of the cv's will up the mpg. you could always just hardwire a switch to the light and when you engage 4WD just hit the switch to make the pretty light come on.

03-12-2004, 04:17 AM	#2 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	OK, looks like I got stuff I can't just bolt in. The rear diff does not have a speed sensor for the ABS and the front doesn't have ADD. I'm sure I need a different rear 3rd, but can I swap over the ADD stuff to the front housing, or should I go to a yard and see if they'll switch with me? I wanted to use parts that would make swapping these in a fairly quick bolt up procedure. __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR

03-12-2004, 07:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	Not from Randy's No lockers yet. I'm getting them installed locally. I bought the 3rds from a POR member that's local here. I was so excited I found someone with 3rds to sell that I didn't check about the ADD and or the ABS snesor plug on the housing for the rear. Am I right about the diffs not being something I can use? I can't believe I didn't look for that stuff... __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR

03-12-2004, 07:56 AM	#10 (permalink)
AFRunner Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 447	I believe he is getting lockers installed...locally. Not going with Randy's...very wise Aaron __________________ 2007 Tacoma DC 4WD TRD In Germany. Haven't been here since I got rid of the last Runner in 2005. Glad to be back in 'yota's.

03-12-2004, 03:09 PM	#15 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	Good news, I can return them and get my $$ back. Just heard from the seller. Wahoo!! __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR

03-12-2004, 03:36 PM	#16 (permalink)
MNBOY Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 786	Mike, You're just getting to be quite the smart-ass, aren't you? A little more sarcasm and I'll actually be able to understand what you're saying. __________________ ____________________ Greg 93 4x4 pickup

03-12-2004, 07:31 AM	#4 (permalink)
Flygtenstein Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 4,246	If you have no hole in the rear for the ABS, that is a problem The front is great though. Many people fit the short side tube on to eliminate the ADD sleeve all together. You can either install that front as it is or swap the side tube to your current diff. Think of it as moving up in the world.

03-12-2004, 07:33 AM	#5 (permalink)
KING Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: PEORIA, AZ Posts: 1,853	Are you going with ARB front and rear?

03-12-2004, 07:37 AM	#7 (permalink)
Flygtenstein Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 4,246	To reiterate. Rear=NO Front=YES as is or YES if you swap the tube. The diff can be regeared with or without the tube on and the tube from the diff on your truck can be swapped to the third that is in the pic.

03-12-2004, 07:40 AM	#8 (permalink)
KING Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: PEORIA, AZ Posts: 1,853	You're throwing those in without lockers?! I don't get it.

03-12-2004, 05:29 PM	#18 (permalink)
toy283 Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Denver, CO, US Posts: 1,435	Just a random point of information; there is no such thing as a V6 front IFS diff. They're all the same. Only the rears are different. __________________ Dave Currently own no Toyotas :(

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