fipk 2 question

CrAshBy · 10-02-2003, 02:15 PM

I have an FIPK Gen 2 K&N intake for my Tacoma, I put it on about a month ago and have done some off roading since, I'm wodering if i go to deep or get to much water will it suck it in, and is there any way to protect it, also I want to put a lift on my rig an im not sure which is good for around $500, any help would be great, sorry if I have alot of questions...I'm knew...btw i love this site

<96 Runner> · 10-02-2003, 02:42 PM

First of all, welcome to yotatech. Second, if you do a lot of wheelin, ditch that K&N - it's nothing but trouble.

Sell it on ebay for $45, get an Amsoil for $35, and buy a deckplate for $10. There you go, an instant 5HP.

A search will reveal a ton of info about the K&N vs. Amsoil debates that go on every week here. General consensus is if you do any wheelin at all, get rid of the swiss cheese (aka K&N).

Happy modding!

TOR · 10-02-2003, 03:09 PM

Right on Christian! Yeah those FIPK are known to lean out your engine and decrease HP. Welcome to the boards man I am sure you will get plenty of good info and suggestions for your rig here. BTW let me know if you ever need anything for your truck.

Todd

CrAshBy · 10-02-2003, 03:33 PM

damn I wish I would have known of all this before I tossed out 200 bucks...I live it the city and go out on big trail rides a few times a month, would it be logical to keep the k&n on in the city and just switch airboxes with the deckplate mod before i go, it takes me about 20 mins max to change them? or am I not making any sense and should just try and sell it? thanks for the help on this, I'm knew to the off roading world, and I've got alot to learn

CrAshBy · 10-02-2003, 03:35 PM

and TOR I'm sure I will get in touch with you, I'm gonna need more and more parts

**UKMyers** · 10-02-2003, 03:37 PM

Alot of help telling him that the $200 he just spent sucks

He asked what to do to not suck water not an opinion of K&N. Anyways Crash they make a sock to go over just the filter for when your wheeling to keep dust and mud out. Keep a mental note that it's there and unless your fording water 4 foot deep you should be okay. Just don't blow through puddles at speed either when on the trail because that forces water up into the engine bay. As far as a lift I am not real familiar with the coilover set up's on Tacos but if you just want to clear some bigger tires body lifts are cheap. Hope this helps you a bit. Good luck with your wheeling.

CrAshBy · 10-02-2003, 03:51 PM

thanks for the help myers!

CrAshBy · 10-02-2003, 04:10 PM

would you happen to know where i could find an outerwear for the K&N?

<96 Runner> · 10-02-2003, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by UKMyers
Alot of help telling him that the $200 he just spent sucks He asked what to do to not suck water not an opinion of K&N.

I dont see how advising someone of a caution is a bad thing.

I guess I missed something.

WT · 10-02-2003, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CrAshBy
would you happen to know where i could find an outerwear for the K&N?

Got mine from:
http://performanceproducts.com/
Couldn't find it on the web site but last catalog had it its called a Drycharger, might just try to call them.

CrAshBy · 10-02-2003, 08:41 PM

96 runner, i appreciate the caution, im going to buy the amsoil filter and deckplate and do that mod to my stock box but im gonna hang onto the k&n for a bit, thanks WT

jruz · 10-02-2003, 08:42 PM

Just ordered my Drycharger from PerformanceProducts. The key is to get the right part number off the K&N website, then just do a search for it on Perf.Prod. and you should find it.

Regarding potential water trouble, yes, it can happen. Sadly, I've done it once...which caused mis-firing in one of my cylinders. Thanks to WATRD, we fixed it on the trail and I was running fine in no time.

Regarding HP loss...I really don't buy that BS. The MAF and throttle butterfly valve both control air-flow. I don't see why removing an air restriction at the filter level will defeat both of these factory provided devices.

I have noticed no change in HP for in-town driving, however when you're on the highway and in the higher RPMs you do get an increase.

Jim

Cebby · 10-02-2003, 09:05 PM

This is the drycharger on a 3.0 V6 with FIPK. You definitely need to use K&N's site to find your application.

With this wrap on it, there is no fear of splashed water getting sucked into the engine. You would have to dunk it to have any issues.

I've HEARD that the FIPK doesn't provide as much of an improvement on the 3.4 as it does on the 3.0, but I have no way to verify this. I've been thoroughly happy with mine - and a long time user of K&N products. This is my 4th vehicle to have a K&N (1st with the FIPK though).

Tacoma Dude · 10-02-2003, 09:50 PM

Crashby:
Welcome to the forum!

As you can tell the Amsoil & Deckplate vs. K&N FIPK is one of those things that will forever be debated

Good luck with the search for that dust cover thingy

95_4X4Runner · 10-02-2003, 09:51 PM

I am also a long time user of K&N, and it's about the only choice for 2nd gens..

I just learned that you can't use the FIPK on the 2nd gen if you have a body lift.

Thought that was worth sharing.

I'd like to do the airbox mod, but I'd rather hack up a spare airbox rather than mine, so I can return it to stock if necessary.

Babypig · 10-02-2003, 10:10 PM

There is a class action lawsuit underway over these intakes. I don't know why or for what and I don't have one and I don't have an opinion either way. Just Info.

jruz · 10-03-2003, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Babypig
There is a class action lawsuit underway over these intakes. I don't know why or for what and I don't have one and I don't have an opinion either way. Just Info.

News to me.

I'll have to check into it...maybe I can get some cash when they settle.

Jim

toysoldier · 10-03-2003, 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Babypig
There is a class action lawsuit underway over these intakes. I don't know why or for what and I don't have one and I don't have an opinion either way. Just Info.

Where did you hear this?

T

CrAshBy · 10-03-2003, 08:40 PM

thanks everyone, and i'd like 2 know where u heard this 2?

10-02-2003, 02:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
CrAshBy Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NH Posts: 24	fipk 2 question I have an FIPK Gen 2 K&N intake for my Tacoma, I put it on about a month ago and have done some off roading since, I'm wodering if i go to deep or get to much water will it suck it in, and is there any way to protect it, also I want to put a lift on my rig an im not sure which is good for around $500, any help would be great, sorry if I have alot of questions...I'm knew...btw i love this site __________________ 00 Tacoma SR5 V6 4x4

10-02-2003, 02:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
<96 Runner> Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Arizona Posts: 10,690	First of all, welcome to yotatech. Second, if you do a lot of wheelin, ditch that K&N - it's nothing but trouble. Sell it on ebay for $45, get an Amsoil for $35, and buy a deckplate for $10. There you go, an instant 5HP. A search will reveal a ton of info about the K&N vs. Amsoil debates that go on every week here. General consensus is if you do any wheelin at all, get rid of the swiss cheese (aka K&N). Happy modding! __________________ Christian <>< My SC'd 4Runner's Profile My YouTube vids

10-02-2003, 03:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
TOR Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 494	FIPK SUCKS Right on Christian! Yeah those FIPK are known to lean out your engine and decrease HP. Welcome to the boards man I am sure you will get plenty of good info and suggestions for your rig here. BTW let me know if you ever need anything for your truck. Todd __________________ 97 4-Runner Limited, 1st Gen Supercharger, TRD air filter, Flo~Pro, 18" BBS wheels, 2.0 pulley, and nitrous express on the way! I am a Toyota Parts Sales rep, if anyone needs Toyota or TRD parts email me or call me! Todd Packer Toyota of Richardson Parts Department 972-238-4465 800-527-2781 todd_packer@toyotaofrichardson.com

10-02-2003, 03:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
CrAshBy Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NH Posts: 24	damn I wish I would have known of all this before I tossed out 200 bucks...I live it the city and go out on big trail rides a few times a month, would it be logical to keep the k&n on in the city and just switch airboxes with the deckplate mod before i go, it takes me about 20 mins max to change them? or am I not making any sense and should just try and sell it? thanks for the help on this, I'm knew to the off roading world, and I've got alot to learn __________________ 00 Tacoma SR5 V6 4x4

10-02-2003, 03:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
CrAshBy Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NH Posts: 24	and TOR I'm sure I will get in touch with you, I'm gonna need more and more parts __________________ 00 Tacoma SR5 V6 4x4

10-02-2003, 03:51 PM	#7 (permalink)
CrAshBy Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NH Posts: 24	thanks for the help myers! __________________ 00 Tacoma SR5 V6 4x4

10-02-2003, 04:10 PM	#8 (permalink)
CrAshBy Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NH Posts: 24	would you happen to know where i could find an outerwear for the K&N? __________________ 00 Tacoma SR5 V6 4x4

10-02-2003, 08:41 PM	#11 (permalink)
CrAshBy Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NH Posts: 24	96 runner, i appreciate the caution, im going to buy the amsoil filter and deckplate and do that mod to my stock box but im gonna hang onto the k&n for a bit, thanks WT __________________ 00 Tacoma SR5 V6 4x4

10-02-2003, 08:42 PM	#12 (permalink)
jruz Guest Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North Bend, WA Posts: 1,093	Just ordered my Drycharger from PerformanceProducts. The key is to get the right part number off the K&N website, then just do a search for it on Perf.Prod. and you should find it. Regarding potential water trouble, yes, it can happen. Sadly, I've done it once...which caused mis-firing in one of my cylinders. Thanks to WATRD, we fixed it on the trail and I was running fine in no time. Regarding HP loss...I really don't buy that BS. The MAF and throttle butterfly valve both control air-flow. I don't see why removing an air restriction at the filter level will defeat both of these factory provided devices. I have noticed no change in HP for in-town driving, however when you're on the highway and in the higher RPMs you do get an increase. Jim

10-02-2003, 09:05 PM	#13 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,270	This is the drycharger on a 3.0 V6 with FIPK. You definitely need to use K&N's site to find your application. With this wrap on it, there is no fear of splashed water getting sucked into the engine. You would have to dunk it to have any issues. I've HEARD that the FIPK doesn't provide as much of an improvement on the 3.4 as it does on the 3.0, but I have no way to verify this. I've been thoroughly happy with mine - and a long time user of K&N products. This is my 4th vehicle to have a K&N (1st with the FIPK though). __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR

10-02-2003, 09:50 PM	#14 (permalink)
Tacoma Dude Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 8,377	Crashby: Welcome to the forum! As you can tell the Amsoil & Deckplate vs. K&N FIPK is one of those things that will forever be debated Good luck with the search for that dust cover thingy __________________ Peter! 2002 Tacoma 1986 4Runner

10-02-2003, 09:51 PM	#15 (permalink)
95_4X4Runner Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia Posts: 387	I am also a long time user of K&N, and it's about the only choice for 2nd gens.. I just learned that you can't use the FIPK on the 2nd gen if you have a body lift. Thought that was worth sharing. I'd like to do the airbox mod, but I'd rather hack up a spare airbox rather than mine, so I can return it to stock if necessary. __________________ Rob 95 Runner SR5 V6 5sp ATK engine, K&N FIPK, NWOR headers, high-flow cat w/2.25" Dynomax Super Turbo, 15X8 Centerlines, Michelin 32X11.5, Aisin hubs, Factory Brush bar, PP Rear Springs, KYB Monomax shocks, Westin Nerfs, Bushwackers, Weatherflectors, OME Steering Stabilizer, Marlin Short Shifter, White gauges, Taurus fan, MR2 100 Amp alternator, stereo&alarm w/DEI 530T 4:88's w/Supra LSD Front and Rear

10-02-2003, 10:10 PM	#16 (permalink)
Babypig Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Calgary Posts: 1,091	There is a class action lawsuit underway over these intakes. I don't know why or for what and I don't have one and I don't have an opinion either way. Just Info. __________________ Ironpig2 is a 1990 4runner SR5 95 3.0V6, ARB front bumper, Hella H4 conversion, Hayden Trans cooler, Aisin manual hubs, Drilled headlight bezel, Clinometer, Altimiter, Assorted Camera mounts, JVC double din head unit, Hilux Surf emblems, Bridgestone Revo's, OME 901's , N72f's "Stay calm, Be brave, Wait for the signs."

10-03-2003, 08:40 PM	#19 (permalink)
CrAshBy Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NH Posts: 24	thanks everyone, and i'd like 2 know where u heard this 2? __________________ 00 Tacoma SR5 V6 4x4

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