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Old 02-11-2009, 01:49 PM
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Factory Tag.....worthless

As I have found out from working on my 4runner this tag is pretty worthless other then VIN and tranny code. I thought I had the smaller rotor and calipers, no, I have the 16" versions-S13WM, Don't have 3.909 gears, I have 4.100....Dealer upgrades I guess.

Not that I'm complaining, much, but if this is a dealer upgrade then other than the Car Sales Sticker, that everyone usually throws away, how would someone know what they really have, they should attach an updated Tag somewhere that overides what the factory sent out....
At this rate I would have ordered the wrong rotors, and now I can do a rear axle swap so I can get a e-locker.


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I find it hard to believe the dealer would have changed your axle gearing.
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Originally Posted by mt_goat
I find it hard to believe the dealer would have changed your axle gearing.
I don't know...here is an example from Steve's 4runner....isn't everything after the suggested price things that are upgraded by the Dealer?

http://www.sonoransteel.com/Window_Sticker.jpg

I'm not to educated on when things are added as options, in the factory or at the dealership...or some somewhere in the middle.

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The 16" wheel package is what would propmt people to suspect that they received 4.10 gears and the larger brakes in your year 4Runner.
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Originally Posted by mt_goat
I find it hard to believe the dealer would have changed your axle gearing.
I was going on assumption I guess cause of having the other upgraded stuff....better check for sure.
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Well after some digging online I found out you can get a vehicle inquiry report done by any toyota dealer service/parts person, its pretty much a copy of the window sticker. Called just now and he faxed it over and found out a lot about my vehicle I suspected. First this thing cost a lot MSRP...$34,203.00.....Upgrade package #4....which included the 16" wheels...13" brakes....and 4.100 rear diff gears....

For other wondering what you your car has...call your local dealer and ask for a vehicle inquiry report.

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Good info. Thanks.
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Good idea. I always wondered what my diff gearing was (i got a similarly useless door tag)
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Wow, I stand corrected then.
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Originally Posted by Motayota
....which included the 16" wheels...13" brakes....and 4.100 rear diff gears....
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Wait, just the rear diff gears? It's a 4WD right?
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Wow, vehicle inquiry report will be on my list of things to do. Thanks for the info. D
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If it's 4wd than both sets are the same. oh yeah and as you found out, the door sticker is pretty much worthless when it comes to tires and wheels. my T100 came with factory 31's but my sticker still says 235's. The window sticker lists all the options that came equipped on the vehicle when it was delievered to the dealer. dealer added options are not usually put on the factory window sticker.
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yeah, the vehicle inquiry report is pretty handy! had it done for a few of my Toyotas over the years.

similarly, my door jam sticker in my 90 truck, my 90 4Runner, and my 97 4Runner all say I have 225/75R15 tires and then proceeds to list the tire pressures for that tire, when infact my 90 Pickup and 4Runner have the 31" tire option and my 97 4Runner came factory with 265/75R16 tires....

why??? I cannot think of any logical explanation for not putting the proper tire size on the sticker..... especially for years and years of production....
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While were on this factory sticker/ 16inch rims and larger brakes issue.....my door sticker says my truck should have 15's but I got the 16's with larger brakes...Not ALL 4Runner's with 16's have the larger brakes. A co-worker of mine witnessed two men in our compound (2500+ vehicles) remove the 16inch wheels off the written off 4Runner and switch them to a 1999 Tacoma that they were in and put the 15inch's wheels off the Tacoma back on the written-off 4runner :O. My co-worker (tow truck operator) thought for sure they were half-a$$ed on and the vehicle wouldn't even roll.....but sure enough the 4Runner rolled into the auction yard no problem with 15's.

My question is....the caliper on the 16's JUST touchs the 15inch rim along the top point(s) of the caliper.....can you just grind them down just a tad to make them fit? Sometimes the caliper is a mere half/inch away from the wheel. As long as it spins I should be fine right >? My friend has brand new BFG TA's with powder-coated factory15inch rims off his Tacoma...for 400$ I want them...i just don't want to change out the brakes if I don't have to....

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Originally Posted by Jay204
While were on this factory sticker/ 16inch rims and larger brakes issue.....my door sticker says my truck should have 15's but I got the 16's with larger brakes...Not ALL 4Runner's with 16's have the larger brakes. A co-worker of mine witnessed two men in our compound (2500+ vehicles) remove the 16inch wheels off the written off 4Runner and switch them to a 1999 Tacoma that they were in and put the 15inch's wheels off the Tacoma back on the written-off 4runner :O. My co-worker (tow truck operator) thought for sure they were half-a$$ed on and the vehicle wouldn't even roll.....but sure enough the 4Runner rolled into the auction yard no problem with 15's.

My question is....the caliper on the 16's JUST touchs the 15inch rim along the top point(s) of the caliper.....can you just grind them down just a tad to make them fit? Sometimes the caliper is a mere half/inch away from the wheel. As long as it spins I should be fine right >? My friend has brand new BFG TA's with powder-coated factory15inch rims off his Tacoma...for 400$ I want them...i just don't want to change out the brakes if I don't have to....
You might get better responses posting this question on a thread about bigger calipers or do a search...a short answer is that I've researched the big brake upgrade on mine when I thought I had the smaller calipers. Anyway, grinding the caliper at the point of contact a bit should not hurt anything, as long as its not that much. Search around this board or ultimatetoyota and i remember seeing someone grind them down with no issues. Hope that helps.
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according to your truck's VIN and your axle code, you have 4.1 FGR. also, the wheels are the 16" alloys.

and it's an SR5V

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Old 02-18-2009, 08:15 AM
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as far as the "vehicle inquiry report" I requested one from a local dealer and they sent me a super cheesy one, real minimal info mostly options no pricing gearing etc. lame
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