mikedog

Does anyone know what type of paint Toyota used on their older trucks?

The reason I'm asking is because the paint on my ('88 PU) cab roof is still nice and shiny after 17-years of being outside. Never garaged. Never regularly waxed. Well...at least on the roof that is. Whatever kind of paint it is, it's pretty darn good stuff to last all these years out in the elements.

Whenever I see a Ford or GM product of this vintage, the paint is usually dull, faded or peeling off the vehicle in some spots.lol!

I've read that the newer Toyota's don't have the kind of durable factory paint jobs the older one's had. Is this true?

jimbo74

i know that older cars had lead in the paint? and this is possibly it? i know back in 86 was the first year that ford tried the clearcoat thing, and their clearcoats sucked....

Ilovemountains

My 88s paint is still solid also, I have a new bed that is getting installed this spring and I plan on repainting the truck the factory color and would love to use the same paint that came on it back in 88! If any one knows what brand or type was used please chime in.

kyle_22r

almost every '88-mid 90s GM vehicle has that nasty peeled off paint around here. i've heard that it was their first try at a non lead paint and it obviously failed miserably

Cardiac

You may have to travel to get it. If you'll notice, most foreign car paint holds up well, and domestics not so well. It's because of the regulations that control VOC emissions from painting facilities in the US. Most other countries have less stringent regulations, or none at all. Basically, the worse a paint is for the environment, the better it is for vehicles.

The good news is, the companies that make auto paint have learned to work with the parameters they are given, and most auto paints are very good now. Pick your color and worry not.

zestar

Automotive painting is a science.

A typical finish consists of four layers:
1) electrocoat - provides corrosion protection
2) primer - protects electrocoat, stone chip resistance, adhesion
between basecoat and elctrocoat
3) basecoat - provides color to the vehicle
4) clearcoat - sunlight protection, scratch resistance, gloss
and appearance properties

Film thickness is a criteria used by the auto industry to ensure durability.

Each of the 4 layers must be at the proper film thickness specification.

If any of the individual layers is below specification. The vehicle would
be considered a factory paint defect.

A visible manifestation of low film thickness is paint peeling, body rusting and stone chipping.

Since the mid 1990s the auto industry while retaining ownership of the paint facilities have outsourced
the process and quality responsibilities to multiple paint suppliers.

Outsourcing in this application is defined as a process in which a company
assigns its in-house operations to a third party.

Specifics on automotive paint suppliers roles within the facilities may be found in textbooks published
both in Europe and America. The most recent textbook being released in 2008.

The paint suppliers actively market and advertise their outsourcing expertise with terms such as
"Cost Per Unit" or "Pay As Painted" supplier programs. Outsourcing [Cost Per Unit] programs are
common throughout Europe and America within the auto industry.

Not all vehicle flaws are associated with the paint itself, vehicle design and weathering will
impact the vehicle's finish.

It is our opinion that the automaker, auto dealer and consumer should not receive a vehicle painted
below the automaker's film thickness specifications of any of the four layers that comprise a vehicle's finish.

We have analyzed the film thickness data of over 11,000 vehicles and
have found that the measurements are below the automakers' specifications.

Low film thickness will cause paint failures.

Investigation summarized in press releases:
Billions Discovered for Recovery by Automakers
and
New Books Reveal Vehicle Paint Quality Flaws Associated with Outsourcing

A quick internet search for the following:

Toyota Paint Problems, Toyota Paint Peeling
Ford Paint Problems, Ford Paint Peeling
GM Paint Problems, GM Paint Peeling
Chrysler Paint Problems, Chrysler Paint Peeling
Honda Paint Problems, Honda Paint Peeling
Nissan Paint Problems, Nissan Paint Peeling

will return results back in the millions.

Public Interest best served by a "Truth in Finish Disclosure"
with the purchase of any vehicle.

The automakers trust their suppliers.

They should receive a finish painted to their specifications....