Explain this lift - 4Runner with 6" susp, 3" body

slick858 · 02-03-2006, 11:03 PM

Guys I am puzzled at this lift, this is a 99 4runner with a
Trailmaster 6 inch suspension lift i guessing this is the
one for the Tacoma?, WITH IFS if my eyes
are seeing this correct I could be wrong and get flamed,
but did he have to get a leaf spring conversion, and cut the
crossmember for this or WHAT, i dont understand this fully?

PLEASE SHED LIGHT GUYS

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2086627

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slick858 · 02-03-2006, 11:05 PM

Admins sorry about the thread title it was an accident

***midiwall*** · 02-03-2006, 11:34 PM

Wow... that looks silly.

Yeup, it's IFS, you can see the short shafts in the first pic. (click)

The front lift is coming from the second crossmember being bolted under the first. I guess that's the Trailmaster lift (dunno). It maintains reasonable CV angles, but the goofy thing about it is that you haven't gained any ground clearance from it.

Lookit the angle of the front driveshaft though... I hope that ain't a stock driveline:

He needs real tires on that thing... He talks about putting 39's on it, I sure hope he understands the concept of regearing.

I dunno... "ewwww" comes to mind overall. I wonder if it's ever been dirty...

**UKMyers** · 02-04-2006, 08:36 AM

I can't wait to see it after he get's the Lambo door hinges installed! That rig has some potential but right now...It's fugly IMO.

EWAYota · 02-04-2006, 09:01 AM

Typical Hawaii Five-O style

ebelen1 · 02-04-2006, 09:15 AM

Yup, it's a Hawaiian thing. Somebody from Hawaii posted some really tall runners and what they pretty much did was either mod a tacoma lift to fit or did other mods to jack the trucks way up high. Although some rock/lava crawl out there, I believe their trucks are more show than anything (according to some of the threads I've seen).

To each his own but I thought some of them looked pretty cool. The thread got flamed like crazy on this board about uselessness but for someone that comes from an environment where show is not a bad thing, it was fine for me. Here's a couple of the threads:

http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=67134
http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=67132
http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=67133

SC4Runner · 02-04-2006, 11:08 AM

Hey Slick, I'll inform you on this lift since I've done it myself to my truck

These lifts are called "drop bracket" type lifts. They are what all the Chevy's, Ford's and other non straight-axle trucks use to lift up the IFS.

They drop the front differentail down to keep the CV angles at a stock position, as well as the rack and pinion and other suspension parts.

I personally really like my trailmaster lift. I've heard bad things about it, but, its worked awesome for me. I feel you get the best of both worlds:

The geometry o fthe suspension is at stock position, so I am getting the most uptravel and downtravel that is possible for the Toyota IFS. I don't have any CV angle issues, and the ride is smooth. People say its useless...but, I really dont agree. Traveling through baja were I would much rather have a higher rig than a stock height one. Plus I can run coilovers with this setup.

One thing that I am going to do is take off my body lift as it is pointless and my truck is too high anyways.

In retrospect I dont regret putting my Trailmaster on at all. I got it for $300 used. It was cut off a Tacoma that had gone SAS. With the upgraded struts and OME shocks I feel like its really great and flexy. I also installed the topplates of the struts upsidown to gain another inch of downtravel and I think it worked well..

The problem with these lifts on 4runners is the rear. They give the Tacomas blocks and an add a leaf. But, the 4runners use coils so you have to figure something else out. The rear isin't made for much more than 4" of lift so now Im battling with that.

Since I love working on my truck though, its just another learning experience and another chance to try something new.

I have to post up some articulation pictures. With all 4 wheels on the ground I get 11" between top of tire to fender. If I flex out the front I get 16" from top of tire to fender. So that's 5" of downtravel which I didn't know was possible. I'll post some pictures.

obex26 · 02-21-2006, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SC4Runner

Hey Slick, I'll inform you on this lift since I've done it myself to my truck

I'll post some pictures.

Where are the pics?

forcleanh2o · 02-21-2006, 01:01 PM

That thing has "Yo MTV Raps!" written all over it......

hupptoy · 02-21-2006, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by obex26

Where are the pics?

At the bottom of his sig...

hupptoy

02-03-2006, 11:05 PM	#2 (permalink)
slick858 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Greenville, South Carolina Posts: 171	Admins sorry about the thread title it was an accident __________________ Tommy L. -1999 Black SR5 "HIGHLANDER"- ~295/75/16 NITTO TerraGrappler~ ~16x8 MICKEY Thompson Classic Lock~ THE PICS MY YOTA TECH PROFILE

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*midiwall* Sponsoring Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Seattleish, WA Posts: 9,078	Wow... that looks silly. Yeup, it's IFS, you can see the short shafts in the first pic. (click) The front lift is coming from the second crossmember being bolted under the first. I guess that's the Trailmaster lift (dunno). It maintains reasonable CV angles, but the goofy thing about it is that you haven't gained any ground clearance from it. Lookit the angle of the front driveshaft though... I hope that ain't a stock driveline: He needs real tires on that thing... He talks about putting 39's on it, I sure hope he understands the concept of regearing. I dunno... "ewwww" comes to mind overall. I wonder if it's ever been dirty... __________________ ~ Mark '96 4Runner Limited S/C MI - 370cc injectors, Air! horns, Airaid MIT, ATS A-arms, 285/75/R16 BFG MTs, Bored TB, Brembo slotted, Cobra 75 WXST, Deckplate, Downey headers, Hayden cooler, IPT valve body, Level 10 torque convertor, Meanstreak exhaust, OME/OME rears, On-board PC (XM, Nav, WiFi, etc), Port 'n Polish, Remote Start, SAW fronts, Hilux console, SMT-5, Stubb's sliders, Supra MAF, TJM-17, 2.0" pulley, Viair 450c, Walbro 190, Weasy2k cams

02-04-2006, 09:01 AM	#5 (permalink)
EWAYota Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Richland, Washington Posts: 4,595	Typical Hawaii Five-O style __________________ DJ 1994 Pickup 22RE, Engnbldr 261 cam, 5 speed. Tires that go around and around... Preping for SAS...... Originally Posted By Fustercluck "Proof that Gangus did not spontaneously generate....he has relatives." Originally Posted By Tacoclimber "My two year old better get a job, soon..." Reply Posted By Oly884 "I hear coal mining is a great career." Myspace

02-04-2006, 09:15 AM	#6 (permalink)
ebelen1 Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Socal Posts: 1,964	Yup, it's a Hawaiian thing. Somebody from Hawaii posted some really tall runners and what they pretty much did was either mod a tacoma lift to fit or did other mods to jack the trucks way up high. Although some rock/lava crawl out there, I believe their trucks are more show than anything (according to some of the threads I've seen). To each his own but I thought some of them looked pretty cool. The thread got flamed like crazy on this board about uselessness but for someone that comes from an environment where show is not a bad thing, it was fine for me. Here's a couple of the threads: http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=67134 http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=67132 http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=67133 __________________ ____________ Edwin 1999 SR5 4unner Last edited by ebelen1; 02-04-2006 at 09:38 AM.

02-04-2006, 11:08 AM	#7 (permalink)
SC4Runner Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: 5th Gen San Diegan, California Posts: 5,869	Hey Slick, I'll inform you on this lift since I've done it myself to my truck These lifts are called "drop bracket" type lifts. They are what all the Chevy's, Ford's and other non straight-axle trucks use to lift up the IFS. They drop the front differentail down to keep the CV angles at a stock position, as well as the rack and pinion and other suspension parts. I personally really like my trailmaster lift. I've heard bad things about it, but, its worked awesome for me. I feel you get the best of both worlds: The geometry o fthe suspension is at stock position, so I am getting the most uptravel and downtravel that is possible for the Toyota IFS. I don't have any CV angle issues, and the ride is smooth. People say its useless...but, I really dont agree. Traveling through baja were I would much rather have a higher rig than a stock height one. Plus I can run coilovers with this setup. One thing that I am going to do is take off my body lift as it is pointless and my truck is too high anyways. In retrospect I dont regret putting my Trailmaster on at all. I got it for $300 used. It was cut off a Tacoma that had gone SAS. With the upgraded struts and OME shocks I feel like its really great and flexy. I also installed the topplates of the struts upsidown to gain another inch of downtravel and I think it worked well.. The problem with these lifts on 4runners is the rear. They give the Tacomas blocks and an add a leaf. But, the 4runners use coils so you have to figure something else out. The rear isin't made for much more than 4" of lift so now Im battling with that. Since I love working on my truck though, its just another learning experience and another chance to try something new. I have to post up some articulation pictures. With all 4 wheels on the ground I get 11" between top of tire to fender. If I flex out the front I get 16" from top of tire to fender. So that's 5" of downtravel which I didn't know was possible. I'll post some pictures. __________________ 1996 4x4 3.4L 4Runner on 35's - 6" of lift, MTR's, E-locked, ARB Tacoma Bumper, Sliders and a cut off tail pipe. 1966 FJ40 - SOA with stock springs, stock 1F motor, and a smelly tailpipe. Last edited by SC4Runner; 02-04-2006 at 11:09 AM.

02-21-2006, 01:01 PM	#9 (permalink)
forcleanh2o Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Southeastern NC Posts: 44	That thing has "Yo MTV Raps!" written all over it...... __________________ 2002 SR5 4wd

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