Drawbacks to a snorkel?
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Drawbacks to a snorkel?
Well as most of you know I sucked water into my intake a few weeks ago. Thankfully it wasn't too bad, but it might worse be next time. I'm starting to look into snorkels (ARB's Safari Snorkel) and some questions popped into my head for those already with them.
It seems like the intake of the snorkel is in the perfect position to get a nice "gulp" when haulin ass through a good size puddle (also when driving in the rain). Is it possible to turn the intake around to face backwards while doing this? I know it won't force as much air in, but no water either right?
Does anyone know where to get a replacement fender so if I ever sell the 4Runner (hopefully never!) there's not a gaping hole in the side?
It seems like the intake of the snorkel is in the perfect position to get a nice "gulp" when haulin ass through a good size puddle (also when driving in the rain). Is it possible to turn the intake around to face backwards while doing this? I know it won't force as much air in, but no water either right?
Does anyone know where to get a replacement fender so if I ever sell the 4Runner (hopefully never!) there's not a gaping hole in the side?
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replaceemtn fenders are easy to find........ also it is a very good idea to turn the snorkel towards the back..... there is no problem that way as the truck will suck the air that it needs... iwt isnt goping to need ram air effect
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That was my main concern about the snorkel facing forwards. I'm sure I can find a replacement fender, but it seems all the junkyards I've been to looking for other parts don't have 4Runners or everyone has got their heads up their asses.
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I built my snorkel for 30bucks, out of pvc, vacuum hose, and various drainage pieces. It works and looks great. I have run through the fender and pop out of the top of the fender. Ram air does not exist on a snorkle. I have never turned it around in the rain (in a big storm going 70 on the highway my filter was bone dry). 250 bucks for a huge goofy looking plastic thing, aint my bag
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what about something like bruce's snorkel?
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...hlight=snorkel
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...hlight=snorkel
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Originally Posted by Del
...when haulin ass through a good size puddle...
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Heck at least on the early Willy's Jeeps if you had a long enough snorkel for intake, and another for exhaust, you could drive completely submerged. They even had one driver/diver change a tire underwater:
The engine compartments had to be waterproofed also though. Wouldn't try it on something with all the modern electronics.
Now on to the actual production model M38. The average M38 came with an L-134ci 4 cylinder engine, with a single bore Carter downdraft carb, a spicer T-90 3 speed cane transmission, the model 18 transfer case, 16" rims allowing for the 7.00-16's on all four corners. Some M38's had the combat rims which facilitated thechanging of tires by falling into 3 different pieces, some had the winter kit whichincluding such items as a full or half cab made of aluminum (and the full cab willsupport the weight of 3 people) a water type heater (takes heat from engine) or a gaspowered heater (killed your mileage ~17mpg to 9 or 10 mpg when running) a heater core for the engine, and a heater core for the batteries, some had a full submersion ability of 72" or 6' underwater when equipped with the air and exhaust snorkel (they were knownto be able to start underwater as long as the system remained pressurized and all ports (including clutch drain) were sealed). The rare few had a PTO winches, for the '52's thatwould be 1 in 100 got them, and some may have had other PTO operated equipment. There some arguments have occurred about what was the original manufacturer of winch used but in fact, many were used, but only the ramsey model 50(?) is demonstrated in the manuals and is rated for either 1 ton or 4 ton, depending on the model. The M38A1 came with the 4 ton model if so equipped.
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Actually, an exhaust snorkel is useless, unless you shut your truck off while the tip is underwater. The pressure in the exhaust keeps the water out when the truck is on...
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That was the point if the military's tests.
Being able to drive, as well as park underwater, then surprise an enemy by driving out on top of them. Also, with the snorkel you can direct a little better the fact that a big batch of bubbles do not reach the surface thereby giving away your position. Now if you were burning oil....guess that Jeep stayed home.
Don't know if that first model ever went into production but in 1950, a version did become special Naval order.
And were used in the Korean War.
They even had one driver/diver change a tire underwater
Don't know if that first model ever went into production but in 1950, a version did become special Naval order.
1000 modified CJ-3A's were produced for the U.S. Navy as the underwater
CJ-V35/U
CJ-V35/U
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This line right here tells me you shouldn't be in the mud. If you cannot pull into the mud, stop, then get yourself out, why bother? Snorkels were designed for fording streams and rivers, something that is done at a low rate of speed.
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Don't sweat it, just giving you a little sh** Just because I like to go through mud nice and slow, doesn't mean it's for everyone. Build your rig for what you want to do and just ignore me.
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Del, this is what I came up with after I hydrolocked my engine;
http://www.tundrasolutions.com/photo...at/500/page/10
Totally hidden and can be made to fit a stock 4Runner......
In a few weeks there's gonna be 3 rigs over at my place getting the mod done. It's gonna be a "snorkel-a-thon" Total cost in parts comes to under $10.....
http://www.tundrasolutions.com/photo...at/500/page/10
Totally hidden and can be made to fit a stock 4Runner......
In a few weeks there's gonna be 3 rigs over at my place getting the mod done. It's gonna be a "snorkel-a-thon" Total cost in parts comes to under $10.....
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does any one know of a kit for an 88 3.0?
I was looking into a kit for my 88 3.0 but I really dont want to take my K&N kit off, I may look into possibly making my own using parts off the K&N. I think I have a stock Saab 900 air box with a K&N filter in it. They would work out great since they are a round can with one hole in the top of the can and one on the side using a drop in round can looking filter. I may try to come out of my throttle body using the K&N pipe into one of these cans then out of it into my front fenter up and out. Huuumm this may just work out. I will have to take a trip to Lowes and see what I can come up with.
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Originally Posted by BruceTS
Del, this is what I came up with after I hydrolocked my engine;
http://www.tundrasolutions.com/photo...at/500/page/10
Totally hidden and can be made to fit a stock 4Runner......
In a few weeks there's gonna be 3 rigs over at my place getting the mod done. It's gonna be a "snorkel-a-thon" Total cost in parts comes to under $10.....
http://www.tundrasolutions.com/photo...at/500/page/10
Totally hidden and can be made to fit a stock 4Runner......
In a few weeks there's gonna be 3 rigs over at my place getting the mod done. It's gonna be a "snorkel-a-thon" Total cost in parts comes to under $10.....
What with the alloy beadlocks, this clean snorkel-mod and youro fenders painted (looks great, btw) your rig is turning into a real "git-r-done" killer!
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