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Old 02-20-2005, 05:39 PM
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Does zip-tie installation of Hayden tranny coolers really case damage?

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Tons of stuff on this board about the hayden 1678 cooler, but i was wondering is it really true the ziptie would eventually rub so much as to cause damage? There was one person who brought it up in a thread, but im not certain theres any truth to it. I just figure the zip tie would wear out before the metal tubes on the radiator does (the fins might break, but who cares about the fins).
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I just had a thought, the guy at the Pepboys did bring up an install kit which is just the mounting hardware normally included with the cooler. So maybe you could just use 4 extra zip ties and pads in order to distribute the load more evenly. Just a thought.

Has anyone actually made their own brackets to mount like the TRD brackets? I seen the underbody mounts, but they seem dangerous to me.
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Originally Posted by argonzero
Hello there,

Tons of stuff on this board about the hayden 1678 cooler, but i was wondering is it really true the ziptie would eventually rub so much as to cause damage? There was one person who brought it up in a thread, but im not certain theres any truth to it. I just figure the zip tie would wear out before the metal tubes on the radiator does (the fins might break, but who cares about the fins).
I ended up mounting mine from the frame at 2 spots that already had holes, I just had to enlarge 2 holes on the cooler, see photos in the album..
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...27130376YWrBsV
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I think the zip ties have foam pad on them to prevent the rubbing...mine did anyway.
The part going through the radiator is in tension so I doubt it will have much chance to rub.
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For what it's worth the guy at my rad shop says the zip ties work fine as long as you use the pads to protect the rad/cooler/condensor.
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Also try to snug the ties straps as tight as possible to compress the foam padding, the padding will take a set and loose compression later.
I have had Haydens on some customers vehicles now for close to 6 yrs with no problems.
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I used stanless standoffs to mount mine. One end is 1/4-20 female and the other is 1/4-20 male stud. I used button heads and nylok nuts. They fit in the existing holes on the crossmember and only required a 1/4" hole to be drilled into the flange on the cooler. Nice and secure and independent of a/c condenser. You can find all the hardware at mcmaster carr.
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I put mine on with the included zip ties and foam about 5 years ago and have had no trouble.
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Originally Posted by argonzero
Has anyone actually made their own brackets to mount like the TRD brackets? I seen the underbody mounts, but they seem dangerous to me.

LORD mounts
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/gro...ID=HARDVIBRATE
Maybe someone has a size similar. I don't have the instructions for the TRD tranny cooler so I can't cross reference the sizes needed.
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I don't have a hayden but a similar model. It came with mounting brackets that are nothing more than pieces of flat steel with a few holes drilled in each end. You can buy the same type of thing at home depot in numerous sizes. I put one of each bracket on the radiator mount, and the other on the cooler. Its hard mounted at all four corners and doesn't move at all. I have a body lift so I had longer bolts to use from my radiator drop brackets but with longer radiator mounts bolts you should be fine.
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You could always buy an Earls Performance cooler, while they are more expensive they are thicker and more efficient than Haydens or similar stacked plate coolers.
Earls has a mounting kit for most of them and they come in a variety of different size pipe or AN fittings.

I have a 13 row Earls on my 2nd gen, no pics handy right now but some old timers may remember it.
This is a 24 or 25 row Earls on my car but shows the mounting kit for it. Each of the upper and lower aluminum brackets have foam padding next to the cooler.

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