Does The Weight Of A Grill Guard Reduce Tread Life?

Vato Loco · 01-02-2005, 08:27 AM

Looks like I'm going to have to replace my tires at only about 20-30k. (thats in kilometres!) I bought these 2 years ago, I have never had to buy 2 sets of tires for one vehicle.

So do you think the grill guard, would cause this premature wear? The tires were rotated on a regular basis, there's no camber wear, I haven't been doing burnouts or anything stupid like that. The tread wear on all tires are all even. :S I'm pretty much stumped whether or not I should I sell my Manik Grill guard.

February 29, 2004, A couple of days before the grill guard was installed

Monday, October 04, 2004, just over 6 months after it is installed

A lot of tread is gone for 6 months...

CrazyDiamond · 01-02-2005, 08:37 AM

Looks to here like the outside edge of the tread is worn more than the center...is that true when you look at them? If so, could be underinflated chronically, or the toe-in on your alignment could be out of adjustment. Incidentally, NO, the weight of a grille guard isn't going to measurably affect your tread life. Not at all. How are the back tires?

firemedic · 01-02-2005, 08:50 AM

Shouldn't have that much effect.

FilthyRich · 01-02-2005, 09:09 AM

It should have no effect. at least nothing like what you are experiencing. I would check your air pressure. That looks like the culprit

ChickenLover · 01-02-2005, 09:29 AM

There is no way the weight of your grill guard could be responsible for the premature wear. I think you are looking at an alignment or air pressure problem.

Paul H. · 01-02-2005, 09:43 AM

What are your tires inflated too? I agree with evryone else. Inflation is probably the culprit.

Noliwan · 01-02-2005, 01:06 PM

I have the manik grille guard on my truck also with over 45k when first installed-- no signs of tread wear on my tires--I rotate regularly as you do--- must agree with everyone else-- underinflated tires or just bad alignment... have both checked out... BFG tires are great-- I have the same ones you are using on my wifes RAV4 with over 50k and a pretty good decent amount of tread life left...

humanoid · 01-02-2005, 01:14 PM

Have a WAAG on my and went over 80K miles on my first set of tires. You could have a toe-in/out problem or a camber problem. Just my 2 cents.

lee · 01-02-2005, 01:23 PM

ive owned my runner since oct '03, it has had a grille guard from day one. when i bought it, the tires were pretty much dead, and the dealer threw on the dulop radial rover a/t's i have now. treadlife has been great (little to no wear), and there is no need to change my tires whatsoever almost 20K later.

i dont think the guard is the culprit.

Masato · 01-02-2005, 02:17 PM

I've got a pretty heavy bush bar and winch off the front of my tacoma and I got just over 90,000KM out of my last set of tires - sounds like premature wear to me.

Masato

Vato Loco · 01-02-2005, 03:03 PM

I had the tires for about 6months right before I put the grill guard on, with regular rotation and etc, it had no sign of wear until I put the grill guard. If anybody's interested in a 96-98 Manik Grill Guard just let me know. Thanks for all your inputs.

hilandfrog · 01-03-2005, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firemedic

Shouldn't have that much effect.

nice patch, what years were you there? I was at ONE from 90 to 02.
VR
Repo

Vato Loco · 01-03-2005, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hilandfrog

nice patch, what years were you there? I was at ONE from 90 to 02.
VR
Repo

Huh...

lee · 01-03-2005, 06:11 PM

hes referring to his avatar.

Vato Loco · 01-03-2005, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lee

hes referring to his avatar.

oh ok

My bad...

firemedic · 01-03-2005, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hilandfrog

nice patch, what years were you there? I was at ONE from 90 to 02.
VR
Repo

Well who the hell are you?

I was at One from 94-98. Foxtrot in 96, Bravo in 97.
EDIT: I wasn't a pecker checker back then...
Chris Forrest (ST-1 same time as me) is in Montana now too.

hilandfrog · 01-03-2005, 09:02 PM

I'm repo, I got to ONE Apr. 90, Stationed Key West 96, back at 0NE 00 Then tradet, who the hell are you.

I don't know chris but always nice to have a fellow toad around the hood.
Repo

jimbo74 · 01-03-2005, 09:10 PM

a grille guard will add more weight to the front end... however that should have no effect on the tires as long as they arent overlaoded.. im i am sure no tire is going to get overloaded on a stock vehicle thats got maybe 100 extra pounds on it... its most likely mroe a tire issue or crappy tires....

jimbo74 · 01-03-2005, 09:11 PM

also looking at the type of tires you have... that mileage is on par with what those tires perform at

01-02-2005, 08:27 AM	#1 (permalink)
Vato Loco Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,483	Does The Weight Of A Grill Guard Reduce Tread Life? Looks like I'm going to have to replace my tires at only about 20-30k. (thats in kilometres!) I bought these 2 years ago, I have never had to buy 2 sets of tires for one vehicle. So do you think the grill guard, would cause this premature wear? The tires were rotated on a regular basis, there's no camber wear, I haven't been doing burnouts or anything stupid like that. The tread wear on all tires are all even. :S I'm pretty much stumped whether or not I should I sell my Manik Grill guard. February 29, 2004, A couple of days before the grill guard was installed Monday, October 04, 2004, just over 6 months after it is installed A lot of tread is gone for 6 months... __________________ 2005 Toyota Tacoma Access-Cab 4x4 w/ TRD Off-Road Package 33" Goodyear MTR's 3" Toytec Lift Clear Headlights Quick Pic of the Taco My Old Toyota 4Runner Limited, Check It Out! Last edited by Vato Loco : 01-02-2005 at 08:40 AM.

01-02-2005, 08:37 AM	#2 (permalink)
CrazyDiamond Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: York, PA Posts: 171	Looks to here like the outside edge of the tread is worn more than the center...is that true when you look at them? If so, could be underinflated chronically, or the toe-in on your alignment could be out of adjustment. Incidentally, NO, the weight of a grille guard isn't going to measurably affect your tread life. Not at all. How are the back tires? __________________ Adam Majkowski majikmd@gmail.com 93 4x4 Pickup, 22re, Header, 2.5" exhaust, Eagle 058 alloys + 31x10.5x15 Firestone Destination M/Ts, ECT mod, ProComp AAL, full undercoating + other fun stuff :-)

01-02-2005, 08:50 AM	#3 (permalink)
firemedic Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Camas, WA USA Posts: 545	Shouldn't have that much effect. __________________ Ben Silva 96 Lexus LX450, 125k, front/rear OEM diff locks, CDL switch, Pin 7 mod, power points, wired 850w inverter, jdm "oh crap" bar, OME heavy (850/863) lift, 285/75/16 Cooper STT, spare tire lift mod 98 Lexus LX470, 135k, Britax car seat ;) TLCA member #14300 Camas, WA USA

01-02-2005, 09:29 AM	#5 (permalink)
ChickenLover Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NV Posts: 2,587	There is no way the weight of your grill guard could be responsible for the premature wear. I think you are looking at an alignment or air pressure problem. __________________ 95 4Runner, 3VZE , 141k, 4WD, Auto. (Head gaskets replaced at 106k)

01-02-2005, 01:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
Noliwan Contributing Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: San Jose,CA Posts: 192	I have the manik grille guard on my truck also with over 45k when first installed-- no signs of tread wear on my tires--I rotate regularly as you do--- must agree with everyone else-- underinflated tires or just bad alignment... have both checked out... BFG tires are great-- I have the same ones you are using on my wifes RAV4 with over 50k and a pretty good decent amount of tread life left... __________________ 2000 TRD 4Runner SR5 4WD My Mods

01-02-2005, 01:14 PM	#8 (permalink)
humanoid Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sunny SoCal Posts: 1,206	Have a WAAG on my and went over 80K miles on my first set of tires. You could have a toe-in/out problem or a camber problem. Just my 2 cents. __________________ '99 Taco PreRunner V6 3.4L

01-02-2005, 01:23 PM	#9 (permalink)
lee Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: boston, ma Posts: 6,766	ive owned my runner since oct '03, it has had a grille guard from day one. when i bought it, the tires were pretty much dead, and the dealer threw on the dulop radial rover a/t's i have now. treadlife has been great (little to no wear), and there is no need to change my tires whatsoever almost 20K later. i dont think the guard is the culprit.

01-02-2005, 02:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
Masato Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Abbotsford, BC Canada Posts: 24	I've got a pretty heavy bush bar and winch off the front of my tacoma and I got just over 90,000KM out of my last set of tires - sounds like premature wear to me. Masato __________________ 99 Tacoma 4x4

01-02-2005, 03:03 PM	#11 (permalink)
Vato Loco Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,483	I had the tires for about 6months right before I put the grill guard on, with regular rotation and etc, it had no sign of wear until I put the grill guard. If anybody's interested in a 96-98 Manik Grill Guard just let me know. Thanks for all your inputs. __________________ 2005 Toyota Tacoma Access-Cab 4x4 w/ TRD Off-Road Package 33" Goodyear MTR's 3" Toytec Lift Clear Headlights Quick Pic of the Taco My Old Toyota 4Runner Limited, Check It Out!

01-03-2005, 06:11 PM	#14 (permalink)
lee Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: boston, ma Posts: 6,766	hes referring to his avatar.

01-03-2005, 09:02 PM	#17 (permalink)
hilandfrog Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Helena, Mt. Posts: 130	I'm repo, I got to ONE Apr. 90, Stationed Key West 96, back at 0NE 00 Then tradet, who the hell are you. I don't know chris but always nice to have a fellow toad around the hood. Repo __________________ 01' tundra.... "must have a little green man under the hood that controls things" ?? 4.7 liter ?? 15mpg adv plush ?truck? "Keep both eyes open, keep the front sight focused and use good trigger control"

01-03-2005, 09:10 PM	#18 (permalink)
jimbo74 Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Nor*Cal Posts: 6,592	a grille guard will add more weight to the front end... however that should have no effect on the tires as long as they arent overlaoded.. im i am sure no tire is going to get overloaded on a stock vehicle thats got maybe 100 extra pounds on it... its most likely mroe a tire issue or crappy tires....

01-03-2005, 09:11 PM	#19 (permalink)
jimbo74 Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Nor*Cal Posts: 6,592	also looking at the type of tires you have... that mileage is on par with what those tires perform at

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