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Old 06-04-2008, 12:24 PM
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do your shifter lever and 4WD lever get hot?

i have a 99 5spd 4WD, even in 2wd, both the shifter lever and 4wd lever got hot after 20 minutes of driving, specially the 4wd can be really hot during stop 'n go kind of situation.

both have fresh factory spec fluids in there, i went to few shops and was told it's normal. but i remember when i drove my ol' 94, they never got hot.

the factory recommend 75-90 gl-4, would switching to 80-140 gl-5 help? or say, hurt anything?

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ya all my yota shifters got warm, im not shure about my tacoma. ill have to check next time i drive it!
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I'd say that it's normal. The only barrier between the inside of the cabin and the transmission and ground underneath is a thin piece of rubber and a piece of aluminum that screws down on top of it. That piece of rubber has two sections that extend into the cabin that the shifter levers pass through.

I've driven with the center console and this cover removed, and the amount of air that rushes through that hole is incredible. The air is very hot, too, especially in the warmer weather that we have now.
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Mine can get quite warm especially the transfer case lever. You might check your fluid levels but my feeling is that the lever acts as sort of a heatsink helping to cool the case.
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hmmmm, never noticed or felt a temperature change

99 limited, all the options, drive in 2wd and 4wd mode a lot

never considered anything warm at all.
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looks like today is a day i have more questions to ask.

has anyone got some firsthand info on this URD short throw shifer?



their website does NOT say it is bolt-on or not, but it sure would be a sweet mod which can banifit the driver everyday not just when going off-road.
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We used an old 75 Suburban as our tow vehicle when we went mud racing. Had a big block with duals. The floor in that ole truck was HOT. Had a pack of matches catch fire one time, they had fallen in the back seat crack. The worst part was it was on the way home and I was trying to snooze, and had my face stuffed in there. Sure got my attention. So yeah I can see those sticks getting hot.
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No experiance with that application, but have done similar ones, they were a piece of cake, should be an easy mod. Bet they would send you the destructions if you asked.
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My shifter (auto ) and the xfer case shifter never get hot. Maybe barely warm, but I can't tell.

TC4RNR - Why a SS kit? I can see it on a sports car (even then, I still don't see a point), but on a truck? I think the stock shifters are perfect. Maybe switch out the bushings in favor of some poly u.
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I have a different shift knob that is half metal. The metal can get pretty hot in the summer while driving (and not because of the sun).
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Never hotter than anything else inside the cabin.

Crawl under the truck and see how it connects to the transmission. If you get a lot of heat transfer through the shifters, the transmission itself must be REALLY hot.
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Originally Posted by TC4RNR
looks like today is a day i have more questions to ask.

has anyone got some firsthand info on this URD short throw shifer?



their website does NOT say it is bolt-on or not, but it sure would be a sweet mod which can banifit the driver everyday not just when going off-road.
Have it...and love it!
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Originally Posted by cackalak han
TC4RNR - Why a SS kit? I can see it on a sports car (even then, I still don't see a point), but on a truck? I think the stock shifters are perfect. Maybe switch out the bushings in favor of some poly u.

ha.ha... i know what you mean, but have you by any chance, test droven a Miata before? i know the car is kinda queer, but that shifter by far is the best i have ever had my hand on.

by the way, the cup holders are always in the way. i hated so much spilling coffee over the center console. i can't move the cup holders to somewhere else, but i can get the shifter away from the cup holders, i guess.
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Originally Posted by TC4RNR
ha.ha... i know what you mean, but have you by any chance, test droven a Miata before? i know the car is kinda queer, but that shifter by far is the best i have ever had my hand on.
If you think Miata's shifter's are nice, try out an S2000. BY FAR the best shifter I have ever used (it's actually the thing I miss most about that car). Still, though, on a truck, I really see no point. I've had SS on an Integra (B&M, I believe) and it developed an annoying rattle after a while. Switched it out with the stock unit w/ energy suspension bushings and all was well. Also, people have complained about synchro's wearing out prematurely, because they weren't used to the quicker shifts. Mostly driver's fault, but the SS's indirectly affect this. So if you go with an aftermarket shifter, be wary of the problems that may follow.
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It should be warm but not hot....

Check all your fluids, t-case, tranny, etc to make sure you arent low
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Mine don't seem to get as warm since switching to synthetic fluid
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I've got Roger Brown short shifters on my transfer cases. They look like about the same type as the URD. It helps a lot if you have a bodylift. I tack welded those set screws in place so they can't work their way out and fall into the tranny.
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The shifters on my 97 5 speed never get hot. Even in the worst traffic or on the longest offroad trip, I have never had it get hot.
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check fluids and no dont use 140wt in your tranny.. if you feel like you need to then use a synthetic in 140wt. it will flow better but i would still use the GL-4 75w90 for manual trannies.. save the 140 wt for your diffies in GL-5 synthetic
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has anybody tried to buy GL-4 75W-90 gear oil? last week i went to all the local autoparts stores, AZ, Napa, PB, Kragen, you name it, none of them have GL-4, only GL-5 75W-90. i even went to the biggest Toyota dealer in the area Longo Toyota, their parts dept. went through the whole warehouse couldn't find GL-4.

i have switched to RedLine MT-90 on May 1st, here is a picture when i drained the fluid out after 25 days on the left, on the right is the fresh leftover

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it started running rough after i changed the fluid, that's when i noticed the levers got hot, i don't know if they were getting hot before the fluid change. that's why i'm asking you guys how's yours normally.

i have regular 75W-90 GL-5 in both T-case and tranny right now, i'm planning drainning it out next week see how it looks.


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