4x4Lamm

Mine is pretty simple, the key in the tailgate works fine up and down and the switch does nothing. I looked over 4crawlers site, but I'm still not sure where to go.

Do I need a new switch, or one of those relay/module things? Any help would be great.

Thank You!
Lamm

snap-on

i had problems with the switch on mine. it was pysically sticky to the touch, and you could see were countless soda/whatever had been spilled on it. (this was right after i bough mine used)

I took it out and cleanded it with a toothbrush and it then actually "clicked" right and its been good sence.

<Edit> now that i think about it, it would go down with the switch, but not up, so i had a good idea it was a switch problem. (key worked fine same as you)

4x4Lamm

Yeah, mine still "clicks" fine and is pretty clean, its all very wierd.

Lamm

snap-on

theres a rear window relay behind the driverside kickpannel. might test it out... (big black boxy thing, if i remember right.... it says on the front of it...)

runethechamp

If the key works fine I would check the switch. The easy way to check if it is the switch is to short the connections (on the wire that connects to the switch, not the switch itself) and see if it makes the window go up and/or down. I did that to check my back-up light switch and when the light came on I knew the switch didn't work.

4Crawler

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Follow the advanced troubleshooting tips that I have on the page:
- http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...leshootingTips

A clicking relay is one of the troubleshooting tips listed on the page. Read it and I'm sure you will find the answer.

4x4Lamm

Well the click I hear is the switch, not a relay. Anyways, the shop has the 4runner right now due to a miss problem so it will be a few days till i can go it it, for now I'm just taking notes. I will try jumping the switch, and if its still bad, it must be a realy.

Lamm

4Crawler

iTrader: (3)

Again, that is a clue, and you did not mention the click in your PM to me. If the switch clicks and the relay does not, then the signal from the switch is not getting to the relay. So either the switch it bad, the contacts are dirty, damage to the wiring/connectors between the switch and relay or the relay coil itself is burned out.

4x4Lamm

Does the mechanical click of the switch mean anything other than it moved?

Roger, you remind me of my dad a lot, he is in IEEE too. Not ment to be offensive in any way, just a starnge observation. You even look a lot like him.

Anyway, back on topic, I will prob need to hunt down a switch. Anyone have a price from a dealer?

Thanks!
Lamm

4Crawler

iTrader: (3)

Look at the workings of the switch. It has a mechanical part that you push with your finger and it moves some stuff inside. One of those things that move is a pair of metal contacts. So one possibility is the mechanical part is messed up, common problem on the power window switches: http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...l#WindowSwitch

Or the metal contacts could be dirty, pitted or somehow messed up. Only way to know is to pull it out, look at how it works, test it (w/ ohm meter or test light) and fix or replace it as needed.

4x4Lamm

I will do that for sure, thank you Roger.

Lamm

4x4Lamm

Well, as luck would have it it works again. It makes no sense to me but I'm not complaining. Thanks for all your help.

Lamm

runethechamp

Note that if you have the window lock button on lock, the rear window switch does not work.

4x4Lamm

Note, I do not have that button. Hahaha, thanks though, I have done that before on my 92.


Lamm

runethechamp

Figured it was worth a try at least. It has caught me off-guard a couple of times.

4Crawler

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Likely an intermittent electrical problem. It probably will return, so next time it acts up, continue troubleshooting.

4x4Lamm

Yeah, we had a LOT of wet weather lately so that may have been part of it.

Lamm