Another EBAY auction claiming this and that, does it even work?
09-23-2005, 07:05 AM
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Another EBAY auction claiming this and that, does it even work?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SAVE-...02522452QQrdZ1
To me it looks more like it would constrict the air, but I may be totally wrong, what do the Gurus say?
To me it looks more like it would constrict the air, but I may be totally wrong, what do the Gurus say?
09-23-2005, 07:10 AM
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the theory behind it is sound. More turbulant air makes for better air/fuel mixing which leads to better conbustion = more power. but the turbulant air needs to happen AFTER you add the fuel to it. (dosent help if beat the dry cake mix to death, then turn the mixer off when you add the eggs)
Inshort, you wont find me coughing up 20 bucks for it. i dought you would see any change at all either way.
Inshort, you wont find me coughing up 20 bucks for it. i dought you would see any change at all either way.
09-23-2005, 07:23 AM
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Try it and see, whats the worst that could happen? You won't get the results they say and then you could turn around and resell it to someone else if you aren't happy... For 20 bucks if it saves you even a little MPG then it will pay for itself in no time... Especially if this huricane does what they are saying it could do...
09-23-2005, 07:28 AM
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I had a Hilux TBS... basically did the same thing... just made a whistling sound. And i think it gave like 2 more hp and possibly a loss on the MPG although it could have just been my foot.
And snap-on has a good point. Because Toyotas add fuel at the end of the intake manifold, creating turbulent air in the intake tube likely wont have an effect.
And snap-on has a good point. Because Toyotas add fuel at the end of the intake manifold, creating turbulent air in the intake tube likely wont have an effect.
09-23-2005, 07:33 AM
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I don't see any difference between this and the Tornado gimmick.
Toss around a lot of big words and you'll fool half the people looking into it.
How does Velocity Tuner increase fuel efficiency up to 31%?
The Velocity Tuner creates a mini-tornado which in turn creates finer particles of atomized fuel allowing
better flame proliferation for a more complete ignition in the combustion chamber. Your vehicles ECU
(computer) reads data through the O2 sensor then recognizes the change. In turn, it adjusts by cutting
surplus fuel delivery thereby resulting in better gas mileage.
The Velocity Tuner creates a mini-tornado which in turn creates finer particles of atomized fuel allowing
better flame proliferation for a more complete ignition in the combustion chamber. Your vehicles ECU
(computer) reads data through the O2 sensor then recognizes the change. In turn, it adjusts by cutting
surplus fuel delivery thereby resulting in better gas mileage.
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09-23-2005, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JimmyK
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SAVE-...02522452QQrdZ1
To me it looks more like it would constrict the air, but I may be totally wrong, what do the Gurus say?
To me it looks more like it would constrict the air, but I may be totally wrong, what do the Gurus say?
Dont waist your money I Had a similar tornado thing in my 95 pickup 3.0 V6 when I bought the vehicle,, I found it and said hmmm then removed it and got better mileage, so it theoretically makes the air vortex, just something else restricting flow from point A to point B. So I sold it on ebay and got $20 haa what a world.
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09-23-2005, 07:39 AM
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Here's some good reading:
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...tornado+vortex
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...hlight=tornado
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...hlight=tornado
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...hlight=tornado
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...hlight=tornado
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...hlight=tornado
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...tornado+vortex
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...hlight=tornado
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...hlight=tornado
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...hlight=tornado
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...hlight=tornado
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...hlight=tornado
09-23-2005, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by JimmyK
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SAVE-...02522452QQrdZ1
To me it looks more like it would constrict the air, but I may be totally wrong, what do the Gurus say?
To me it looks more like it would constrict the air, but I may be totally wrong, what do the Gurus say?
I would say to save the money for the gas since you will be burning money more efficiently.
09-23-2005, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Ironmike4x4
I would say to save the money for the gas since you will be burning money more efficiently.
Claims to burn fuel more effeciently.
Actually burns money more effeciently.
Fuel=Money
Therefore claim is valid.
Actually if you take an empty beer can and cut it up you can make your own for testing purposes. Might have to experiment with a few till you get it right. Don't use full beer cans, as it voids the actual purpose of the excercise - which is an excuse to empty some beer cans...
09-23-2005, 12:02 PM
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First rule of economics...the Market sets the price !
If it really worked, it would be a lot more than $20.
Its priced right where folks think of it like pocket change so take a risk
Get it out to enough folks and....
...you are rich.
E
If it really worked, it would be a lot more than $20.
Its priced right where folks think of it like pocket change so take a risk
Get it out to enough folks and....
...you are rich.
E
09-23-2005, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Flamedx4
That's it!
Claims to burn fuel more effeciently.
Actually burns money more effeciently.
Fuel=Money
Therefore claim is valid.
Actually if you take an empty beer can and cut it up you can make your own for testing purposes. Might have to experiment with a few till you get it right. Don't use full beer cans, as it voids the actual purpose of the excercise - which is an excuse to empty some beer cans...
Claims to burn fuel more effeciently.
Actually burns money more effeciently.
Fuel=Money
Therefore claim is valid.
Actually if you take an empty beer can and cut it up you can make your own for testing purposes. Might have to experiment with a few till you get it right. Don't use full beer cans, as it voids the actual purpose of the excercise - which is an excuse to empty some beer cans...
Better get a hold of Scofco..He makes empty beer cans....
(in the interest of science, I will forfit some of my valuable time to attempt this project...full writeup with pics comeing soon.....)
09-23-2005, 02:38 PM
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I really do not see how the air currents, after going through that, can keep the swirling motion considering the fact that they are going through another tube that is accordion-shaped with ridges, and then through bends. There is no logical reason for it to continue the swirl that distance.
Hence my opinion of it being a gimmick. Just my two cents.
Hence my opinion of it being a gimmick. Just my two cents.
09-23-2005, 06:58 PM
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just last week i saw tests of a bunch of the more popular scams out there that claim such great fuel savings. not sure if it was some gear head show or a spot from consumer reports. big flash--they didn't work. not one.
keep in mind, toyota spends millions of bucks a year to develop maximum efficiency. don't you think if a cut can would increase gas mileage by 1/3 they cut the can?
besides, if this thing worked as claimed, they wouldn't be selling it on ebay!
keep in mind, toyota spends millions of bucks a year to develop maximum efficiency. don't you think if a cut can would increase gas mileage by 1/3 they cut the can?
besides, if this thing worked as claimed, they wouldn't be selling it on ebay!
09-24-2005, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Flamedx4
Actually if you take an empty beer can and cut it up you can make your own for testing purposes. Might have to experiment with a few till you get it right. Don't use full beer cans, as it voids the actual purpose of the excercise - which is an excuse to empty some beer cans...
Thats what it looks like, just opened with the sharp end of can opener on an angle.
09-25-2005, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Lt. Dan
Better get a hold of Scofco..He makes empty beer cans.... (in the interest of science, I will forfit some of my valuable time to attempt this project...full writeup with pics comeing soon.....)
Yep - MUCH better way to use up 20 bucks.
09-25-2005, 11:14 AM
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funny thing is that popular mechanic just did a whole bunch of dyno testing for these kind of devices and found that no changes to hp or fuel economy were made. you can read the article in the most recent issue i believe
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