BOSTON4RUNNER

I do travel alot and carry a decent amount of weight, plus am about to fab a serious off road read bumper for my 1997 4 runner 3.4 SR5 5 Speed...so I am leaning towards the 892's

I am going to get a kit from Wheelers, which comes with front Rev Tek 3 inch spacers, diff drop kit and they said I can pick my rear springs, which I guess they might charge me a few bucks more but that is fine

I will also swap in new shocks and struts at the time, not longer than stock or anything just good replacements, as I am trying to do this on the cheap.

My question is...would you go with 892's? or 891's?

I do have a beefy safari rack on the truck....and I do not care how stiff the ride is

how much lift do you think this will yield? also I would be more than happy to do a write up and take pictures on the whole process and put it on my website if others think it will be helpful. I am hoping to run 285 75 16s on stock 16 X 7 alum rims...will trim the pinch weld, fender, bumper if need be.

thanks, tim

Stegall984R

i've never even herd of the 892s unless they are brand new....

bamachem

after settling out w/ some flexing...

OME REAR COIL SPRING OPTIONS:

906's = ~1.5-1.75"
890's = ~2.0"
891's = ~2.5"
892's = ~3.0"

Add ~1/2" to those measurements if you use the conical bumpstop w/ them.

Spring rates are supposedly in the ~300#/in range, so if you have ~150# of extra weight, then subtract ~1/2" from the overall height to get your "normal" height.

BOSTON4RUNNER

thanks.....great info

and do you suggest using the bump stops? or do people typically remove the bump stops?

User 051420

DO NOT get the 892's.

Homer666

Wow.....what a timely thread !! I will be purchasing OME coils and shocks next week. The front's are going to be 882's (I have a Sahara bumper, winch, skid plates, etc). However, I was torn between the 891's and 892's. Like Boston4Runner, I have extra weight in the back (about 150 - 200 lbs of cargo box and contents). I also occasionally tow a trailer with tongue weight between 300 - 350 lbs (but I have the equalizer hitch) so I was leaning towards the 892's.

Would those folks who advise against the 892's please elaborate? Are they too stiff even with extra weight in the back? Since the cost of the 891's and 892's is the same, I don't have a preference one way or the other. I just want to make sure that the coils I buy are the best match for my 4Runner.

Thanks for any information;

James

MTL_4runner

I think it will ride like a rock with 892's.....even with 891's most say the ride gets comfortable when towing.

bamachem

Here's some more good reading material....

Using Tundra TRD coils instead of OME on the front: https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/new-suspension-setup-trd-front-lift-3rd-gen-4runner-41848/

OME discussion thread: https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/actual-old-man-emu-881-891-springs-39005/

and, until his recent SAS, Steve Schaefer was pretty much the IFS king and has probally tried and wheeled more suspension setups than anyone else here. His last one was the Tundra TRD setup and it was the best out of any he tried - his words, not mine.

Steve has more info here: http://fastq.com/~sschaefer/parts.html

BOSTON4RUNNER

ok

next question

if I run the factory coils in the front with fresh struts and 3 inch rev tek spacers..and I use 891's in the back .....should I? do I use the conical snubber/bumpstops things you guys mentioned?

or do I leave them out entirely?

please educate me

thanks

bamachem

you'll need the bumpstops to give you the extra 1/2" of lift so it won't be ass-saggin'

BOSTON4RUNNER

so the 891's and factory bumstops should yield 3 inches

given the planets are aligned right, the groundhog sees his shadow,,etc etc?

bamachem

lol... they will initially be closer to 3.5", then settle out after you dirve them a while. depending on how crazy you get when wheeling and how often, they may settle more, then you just add a trimpacker b/w the cone and the coil.

BOSTON4RUNNER

so i will wait till it settles then put in the trim packer....i wont be doing a whole lot of off roading, like not alot of serious climbs etc, mainly on the beach....

thanks everyone for your help, i am now on track....i cant go too crazy with this truck as i drive it everyday and am trying to finish another project which you can see by clicking this link: http://sfaboston.bizland.com/cam.htm

jacksonpt

FWIW... I've got 891s on my rig. Had them for about 60k miles. I got 3.25" of lift out of them over a very tired factory suspension. I do a fair amount of towing, a fair amount of wheeling, but I have no rear bumper (I do have a custom cargo box that probably weighs in around 100lbs or so). I haven't noticed any sagging, at least not compared to the front, which has sagged a good inch over the years.

dragr1

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Here is waht I have:
'99 4Runner V6 4x4 5spd
Front: ARB Bumper, winch, Trailcarnage skidplates
OME 882's, 1 trim packer, OME HD shocks

Rear: Trailcarnage bumper, cargo box full of tools
OME 891's, OME HD shocks

The rear of my 4Runner sits about 0.5" to 1" higher than the front. When loaded for camping (2 coolers and misc stuff in back of 4Runner) and towing my current popup (about 2000 lbs, hitch weight about 180 lbs) the rear might sag an inch, making the 4Runner level. Here's a pic with the 2 coolers inside and 2 people standing on the rear bumper so I can hook up to the camper with an 8" drop hitch:

http://community.webshots.com/album/210824947pEzEMi

I just posted the pic, so it may take a couple of hours for it to show up.

The only person I can think of that has 892's was 44runner, but I think he sold his rig.
The camper is for sale!

BOSTON4RUNNER

that truck looks nice dragr

what size tires?

I am going to jacksonpt's site now

dragr1

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The tires are 285/75/16 (33") BFG MT's.

socal98runner

Boston,

I'll swap you my 891's for 890's !!!

I don't tow enough to warrant having these