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Old 02-04-2007, 11:04 AM
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5 Speed Swap?

Hey guys, I'm new here but I own a 2000 4Runner SR5 and was wondering what all I would need for a 5 speed swap and where I can find the stuff to do it with? I had a tacoma and miss the 5 speed. Thanks
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not worth doing the swap, far easier to sell yours and buy a 5-speed
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I would have to agree with you, but didnt you do a 5 spd swap from an AT in your car? I just want to know what all is needed? New ecu, tranny, clutch, etc. and around how much it can cost... and most importantly where to get it. Would there be anywhere on the web to buy one and have it shipped?
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Where do you live? I have a 5sp swap available from a 99 4Runner. If you are local, it would work out. Way too heavy to ship though.
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Check car-part.com for parts in your area. You'll probably pay a bit more for it, but you'll at least get what you need.
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Where do you live? I have a 5sp swap available from a 99 4Runner. If you are local, it would work out. Way too heavy to ship though.
I live in Charleston, WV
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Originally Posted by BruceTS
not worth doing the swap, far easier to sell yours and buy a 5-speed


Yep. Put it down on paper and compare side-by-side. The swap will cost you way more than selling and buying another one.

It's funny because I looked everywhere for a 5-speed after I sold my AT Taco; I got it, and now I kind of wish I had an auto. They are easier to wheel and much better in traffic; which is just getting worse around here unfortunately.

I guess a tiptronic tranny would be ideal...
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doh. I live in WA. Shipping would be a killer. Sorry bout that! If you were able to find a trans/case i have all the other parts necessary to do the swap, and shipping would not be terrible for that stuff.

FIRST, you need to find out if your crankshaft is machined to accept a pilot bearing. A lot of the 5VZ engines were not machined to accept them.

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If you are using a manual transmission, the 3.4L engine will need to come from a manual transmission vehicle. In SELECT year models we have found a difference in crankshaft machining from the factory. In these instances an engine from an automatic transmission application will not accept a pilot bearing.
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I found some MTs on car-part.com for around 850 bucks. What else expense-wise would I be looking at?
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doh. I live in WA. Shipping would be a killer. Sorry bout that! If you were able to find a trans/case i have all the other parts necessary to do the swap, and shipping would not be terrible for that stuff.

FIRST, you need to find out if your crankshaft is machined to accept a pilot bearing. A lot of the 5VZ engines were not machined to accept them.
How do I find that out?
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only way to find that out would be to take off your trans, and measure the hole, unfortuanetly.
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what size should it be?
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You would also need both drivelines, pressure plate, clutch plate, flywheel with bolts, slave cylinder, master cylinder, clutch lines (hard and soft) Pedal assembly, shifters, clutch fork assy, and center console. Of course this would include all the hardware necessary.

You would also have to buy a new throwout and pilot bearing.

As for the ECU, i dont know what what would entail. Im keeping my ECU for the 3.4L swap in planning on doing. Im willing to give up the flywheel I would need, cause I can get that piece from work.

Probably about $750 shipped from me.
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that, i dont know. You would have to measure the size of a new bearing to get that. OR, if someone on here knows that spec size, or can measure one they replaced?
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i did one on my 91 truck and it took honeslty 1 day but i had a donor rig..everything was bolt on exept for the master cylinder....BUT!!!! on a 3.4 the crankshafts are different from AUTO to 5 speed so the pilot bearing will not fit in the auto crankshaft....this is what i have heard anyway so...if you wanna do the swap you gotta get a motor to.........however i am sure you can find a bearing that will fit in there

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ouch... that sucks... looks like no swap for me!
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Originally Posted by toyotaoffroad91
if you wanna do the swap you gotta get a motor to.........however i am sure you can find a bearing that will fit in there
not true. Im SOME cases (see my above post, and Offroadsolutions.com) the crank is not machined to accept the pilot bearing. However, if it IS, then the swap is no problem.

And you dont want to just "find a bearing to fit in there". If thats the case, you would just be better off selling the Auto and finding a Manual.
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Ok well I will try to pull the tranny sometime soon and figure out if it will take the bearing or not. I'm still not really sure what I am looking for here.
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Originally Posted by 2000_4Runner
Ok well I will try to pull the tranny sometime soon and figure out if it will take the bearing or not. I'm still not really sure what I am looking for here.
Buy a pilot bearing for a manual tranny. Its a few bucks for one. Pull your tranny and press it in. If it fits you can swap in a manual, if not you would have to buy a new crank for a manual with the hole for the bearing. That would be alot of work to do if you need a new crank and would not be worth it.

Heres a pic of what you are looking for see the bearing
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Ok thanks that pic helps out alot!


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