3rd Gen Rear Hatch Hydraulics

Noel · 06-13-2005, 10:06 AM

My hatch opens really really slowly and doesn't go all the way up unless I give it a little help. I'm almost sure the reasn is that I've added some dynamat to it. Are there any beefier hydraulics out there that do the job? I really don't want to take the dynamat off, I like how my gate doesn't rattle. TIA

Rick F. · 06-13-2005, 11:33 AM

Sounds like a common problem and one that I have, too.

I'll be watching this thread. Thanks for asking before I did!

Noel · 06-13-2005, 11:46 AM

hey no problem rick...my gate is also getting more difficult to open. As if the latching is getting stuck. Anyway, I was thinking what if I were to swap in some Land Cruiser parts in there or something designed to lift more weight.

gapguy · 06-13-2005, 11:57 AM

Chances are that your struts are just worn out. I'm willing to be that some new OEM (or similar) struts will do the trick!

MTL_4runner · 06-13-2005, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by gapguy

Chances are that your struts are just worn out. I'm willing to be that some new OEM (or similar) struts will do the trick!

Yeah it is definately the struts, mine does the same thing but the OEMs were very expensive.
Anyone find a cheaper alternative to the dealer for these?

Noel · 06-13-2005, 12:11 PM

Funny thing is that I work for a Land Rover dealer here in Indianapolis. The same dealer owns a toyota store...so I can get them at cost. I still think it's gonna be expensive

Noel · 06-13-2005, 02:44 PM

Ok, I just checked and Autozone has them for 29 bucks a pop (generic), 1sttoyotaparts has them for 110 each (OEM), and I'm getting a Sachs hydraulic strut pricing checked out.

gapguy · 06-13-2005, 03:46 PM

Also..It might be fun to check with Jason B. I wonder if he has these?

brazos609 · 06-14-2005, 07:46 PM

Don't bother with the parts store ones. I got a pair from HiLo and the were weaker than the 8 year old factory ones.

Jason B · 06-14-2005, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gapguy

Also..It might be fun to check with Jason B. I wonder if he has these?

It's funny you mentioned that. This is one of my future project ideas. A new strut setup that will open the hatch with much more force, and cost half the price of the Toyota struts. I haven't attempted this project and am still fiddling with the hood shocks so you can get rid of your prop.

Jeff_M · 06-14-2005, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by brazos609

Don't bother with the parts store ones. I got a pair from HiLo and the were weaker than the 8 year old factory ones.

Dammit. I wish I would've read this earlier. I just bought a pair from Autozone. I hope they have a good return policy...

4-RUNNIN' FREAK · 06-14-2005, 08:33 PM

It's the dynamat that did mine in. I am sick of hitting my head on the hatch now. I posted in the want ads in an old thread for some. http://yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=47978

I probably have 25 pounds or more of sound deadening material on the rear hatch.

jordanirvin · 06-14-2005, 10:03 PM

Not to hijack this thread, but here goes....

Does anyone know of part numbers for longer stuts? I'm 6'3" and my gate only opens to about 5'11". Mine lift with plenty of force for now, but I really need to heighten the door.
However, I'm not sure that the current hinge configuration will allow this. Has anyone tried this before???

98Runner98 · 06-14-2005, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jordanirvin

Not to hijack this thread, but here goes....

Does anyone know of part numbers for longer stuts? I'm 6'3" and my gate only opens to about 5'11". Mine lift with plenty of force for now, but I really need to heighten the door.
However, I'm not sure that the current hinge configuration will allow this. Has anyone tried this before???

I know....Just get a 3-4" lift,
Problem Solved

Jeff_M · 06-14-2005, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jordanirvin

Not to hijack this thread, but here goes....

Does anyone know of part numbers for longer stuts? I'm 6'3" and my gate only opens to about 5'11". Mine lift with plenty of force for now, but I really need to heighten the door.
However, I'm not sure that the current hinge configuration will allow this. Has anyone tried this before???

I'm guessing it would. Why don't you disconnect the top section of each strut and see how much further it will go?

Unhappy99 · 06-15-2005, 06:48 AM

Have the struts rebuilt. Far cheaper than new OEMs.
www.strutwise.com

Noel · 06-15-2005, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jordanirvin

Not to hijack this thread, but here goes....

Does anyone know of part numbers for longer stuts? I'm 6'3" and my gate only opens to about 5'11". Mine lift with plenty of force for now, but I really need to heighten the door.
However, I'm not sure that the current hinge configuration will allow this. Has anyone tried this before???

I'm 6'3" as well and am sick of hitting my head...

Noel · 06-15-2005, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unhappy99

Have the struts rebuilt. Far cheaper than new OEMs.
www.strutwise.com

thanks for the link. I'm gonna give them a call today and see what they can do for me

Noel · 06-15-2005, 09:23 AM

just got off the phone with Frank from strutwise. They are going to rebuild the ones I have for 60 bucks plus shipping. He said that they will be stronger than the OEM ones.

FORANA · 06-15-2005, 03:45 PM

I had a friend that had checker struts put and and he has nothad any problems with them being weak. So I dunno........

06-13-2005, 10:06 AM	#1 (permalink)
Noel Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Indy Posts: 159	3rd Gen Rear Hatch Hydraulics My hatch opens really really slowly and doesn't go all the way up unless I give it a little help. I'm almost sure the reasn is that I've added some dynamat to it. Are there any beefier hydraulics out there that do the job? I really don't want to take the dynamat off, I like how my gate doesn't rattle. TIA

06-13-2005, 11:33 AM	#2 (permalink)
Rick F. Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Far western Kentucky (transplanted from central PA) Posts: 1,061	Sounds like a common problem and one that I have, too. I'll be watching this thread. Thanks for asking before I did! __________________ '00 SR5, Desert Dune: 4" Deckplate, Amsoil TS-115, Bilsteins, Brembo rotors w/Performance Friction pads, Fiam Highway Blasters, Sylvania Silverstars, Hella Micro DE Fog Lights w/Hella Yellow Star Lamps '08 Sport, Salsa Red: bone stock (for now...)

06-13-2005, 11:57 AM	#4 (permalink)
gapguy Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Nevada City, CA Posts: 3,552	Chances are that your struts are just worn out. I'm willing to be that some new OEM (or similar) struts will do the trick! __________________ 2008 Mini Cooper

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06-14-2005, 07:46 PM	#9 (permalink)
brazos609 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: TX Posts: 34	struts Don't bother with the parts store ones. I got a pair from HiLo and the were weaker than the 8 year old factory ones.

06-13-2005, 11:46 AM	#3 (permalink)
Noel Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Indy Posts: 159	hey no problem rick...my gate is also getting more difficult to open. As if the latching is getting stuck. Anyway, I was thinking what if I were to swap in some Land Cruiser parts in there or something designed to lift more weight.

06-13-2005, 12:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
Noel Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Indy Posts: 159	Funny thing is that I work for a Land Rover dealer here in Indianapolis. The same dealer owns a toyota store...so I can get them at cost. I still think it's gonna be expensive

06-13-2005, 02:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
Noel Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Indy Posts: 159	Ok, I just checked and Autozone has them for 29 bucks a pop (generic), 1sttoyotaparts has them for 110 each (OEM), and I'm getting a Sachs hydraulic strut pricing checked out.

06-14-2005, 08:33 PM	#12 (permalink)
4-RUNNIN' FREAK Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NNJ Posts: 3,941	It's the dynamat that did mine in. I am sick of hitting my head on the hatch now. I posted in the want ads in an old thread for some. http://yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=47978 I probably have 25 pounds or more of sound deadening material on the rear hatch. __________________ '02 4Runner - '06 XRunner Breakdancing www.BadgeYourRide.com Check this out Multi-Touch Interaction Research http://mrl.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirtouch/ Highest Xmax 6.5" subwoofer made Total Posts: 32,218 (75.35 posts per day) [/center] [/color] Still A Neon

06-14-2005, 10:03 PM	#13 (permalink)
jordanirvin Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 41	Not to hijack this thread, but here goes.... Does anyone know of part numbers for longer stuts? I'm 6'3" and my gate only opens to about 5'11". Mine lift with plenty of force for now, but I really need to heighten the door. However, I'm not sure that the current hinge configuration will allow this. Has anyone tried this before???

06-15-2005, 06:48 AM	#16 (permalink)
Unhappy99 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 381	Have the struts rebuilt. Far cheaper than new OEMs. www.strutwise.com __________________ 03 Dodge Ram 2500 CTD...its amazing Ex: 1999 4Runner JT3HN86R1X0199261...Now somebody elses Karl Malone Toyota 'Certified' POS Legendary Toyota quality is exactly that: A thing of legend. Defective fuel gauge - 'Certified' Defective brake rotors - 'Certified' Defective axle seals - 'Certified' Defective heater diverter - 'Certified' etc. etc. etc.

06-15-2005, 09:23 AM	#19 (permalink)
Noel Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Indy Posts: 159	just got off the phone with Frank from strutwise. They are going to rebuild the ones I have for 60 bucks plus shipping. He said that they will be stronger than the OEM ones.

06-15-2005, 03:45 PM	#20 (permalink)
FORANA Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 214	I had a friend that had checker struts put and and he has nothad any problems with them being weak. So I dunno........ __________________ Greggie Poo 97 4runner SR5 4x4 sport amsoil, flowmaster, air shocks, towhitch, yakima racks *Call her my "Huney"

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