36s on stock IFS??
09-26-2005, 06:32 AM
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36s on stock IFS??
I check out E-bay every now and then, and found this guy with a 94 Toyota 4x4 truck running 36x14.50-15 Super Swamper TSL Radial Tires on stock IFS. Isn't that a big no-no? I thought the CVs and axles wouldn't handle that? Maybe because it's a street driven only it hasn't broke yet? I was surprised to see it.
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09-26-2005, 06:50 AM
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depends on how you drive it. we wheeled my roomates truck on 38's, stock suspension, but 4.88 gears and welded rear diff. we only had it out 2x but never broke anything. now its getting a fj80 front axle, so no more cv's to worry about.
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09-26-2005, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ebelen1
Replied to the wrong post. Sorry for the confusion.
yeah 36s is a no-no on an ifs truck... it might handle it for awhile, but of you wheel hard, its going to snap an axle twig like.....
09-26-2005, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jimabena74
yeah 36s is a no-no on an ifs truck... it might handle it for awhile, but of you wheel hard, its going to snap an axle twig like.....
It's not a bad looking truck, but I'd put a solid axle in there first mod
09-26-2005, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by deathrunner
That is totally a southern truck. 14" wide rims? geez
I like that dog under the truck in the first pic, it adds some perspective.
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09-26-2005, 08:37 AM
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The IFS works fine, and it can take it amazingly well. Mine had 37s under it for 50k miles, then its had 35s ever since for another 60k miles so far. And yes it has been wheeled. There are thousands of IFS trucks out there running 35s and doing fine, no reason not to run that big a tire and wheel 'em. Do change the gears....
BUT - I also agree with some of the above posts - IF you are going to wheel HARD, or if you are just naturally abusive (or an unskilled driver...) you will be more prone to break a few parts. You will go through a few axles, and probably idler arms and steering arm joints at a higher rate. Axles are cheap and easy to replace. My first replacements of the stock parts - worn idler and steering arm and a clacking axle occurred at 211K!
Darn few people really need to do a SAS. I suggest you wait until you are wheeling hard enough to KNOW it's time to change before worrying about the IFS.
BUT - I also agree with some of the above posts - IF you are going to wheel HARD, or if you are just naturally abusive (or an unskilled driver...) you will be more prone to break a few parts. You will go through a few axles, and probably idler arms and steering arm joints at a higher rate. Axles are cheap and easy to replace. My first replacements of the stock parts - worn idler and steering arm and a clacking axle occurred at 211K!
Darn few people really need to do a SAS. I suggest you wait until you are wheeling hard enough to KNOW it's time to change before worrying about the IFS.
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09-26-2005, 12:50 PM
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A friend of a friend's has 36s on his Toyota truck. I don't think he has ever had a problem with it, and he went mudding all the time. He did break something in his rear diff while cruising on his way down to Florida, but It was something they fixed on the side of the road (well, sort of--they endend up having to come back using fwd).
09-26-2005, 01:33 PM
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One of my buddies in high school had a toyota p/u with 36" swampers on it with ifs. He still runs that same truck with no problems, except he now has 35's. He also wheeled the hell out of that truck, the only reason he downsized in tires was because the swampers got worn out.
09-26-2005, 03:28 PM
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I find it to be bs that he claims its quiet and smooth...I had each each of my tires balanced removed remounted multiple times to get em as well balanced as possible and no chance are they quiet or smooth (not that im bitchin, swampers sound sweet 
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I find it to be bs that he claims its quiet and smooth...I had each each of my tires balanced removed remounted multiple times to get em as well balanced as possible and no chance are they quiet or smooth (not that im bitchin, swampers sound sweet )
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speaking of big tires/snapping axles...kid at school has a wrangler lifted 9" w/ 38's...hes gone through an axle front and rear (solid axle) stock dana 30's i think? i dont know jeeps very well, i just know that hes treated that thing like crap.
09-26-2005, 04:56 PM
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dana 30s have got to be one of the ˟˟˟˟˟tiest axles ever made, they were recalled because too many of em had broken the housing while on road either injuring or killing their passengers
09-26-2005, 05:16 PM
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i mean i think thats what it is...its a 97 wrangler i believe, so anyone with jeep knowledge is welcome to correct me...just shows how stupid most highschoolers are (im not, i bought a yota!)
09-26-2005, 05:16 PM
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after 30s...my friend has em under his jeep with 30s and he got hit from the side and the axle tube snapped, theres a bunch of articles about stock jeeps with d30s that broke while they were towing or got tapped or something and the housing snapped causing a wreck
09-26-2005, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by runnerboy97
depends on how you drive it. we wheeled my roomates truck on 38's, stock suspension, but 4.88 gears and welded rear diff. we only had it out 2x but never broke anything. now its getting a fj80 front axle, so no more cv's to worry about.
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...23188608KuJGHu
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...23188608KuJGHu
On a side note, I notice you're a Firefighter, and it seems that there are quite a few of us in the field here on the boards... am I mistaken or have you found that too?
Cheers
Dave
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09-26-2005, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Flamedx4
The IFS works fine, and it can take it amazingly well. Mine had 37s under it for 50k miles, then its had 35s ever since for another 60k miles so far. And yes it has been wheeled. There are thousands of IFS trucks out there running 35s and doing fine, no reason not to run that big a tire and wheel 'em. Do change the gears....
BUT - I also agree with some of the above posts - IF you are going to wheel HARD, or if you are just naturally abusive (or an unskilled driver...) you will be more prone to break a few parts. You will go through a few axles, and probably idler arms and steering arm joints at a higher rate. Axles are cheap and easy to replace. My first replacements of the stock parts - worn idler and steering arm and a clacking axle occurred at 211K!
Darn few people really need to do a SAS. I suggest you wait until you are wheeling hard enough to KNOW it's time to change before worrying about the IFS.
BUT - I also agree with some of the above posts - IF you are going to wheel HARD, or if you are just naturally abusive (or an unskilled driver...) you will be more prone to break a few parts. You will go through a few axles, and probably idler arms and steering arm joints at a higher rate. Axles are cheap and easy to replace. My first replacements of the stock parts - worn idler and steering arm and a clacking axle occurred at 211K!
Darn few people really need to do a SAS. I suggest you wait until you are wheeling hard enough to KNOW it's time to change before worrying about the IFS.
So I guess another question is : Anyone got any experience with DOwney's IFS Lift? Maybe I should make another thread...
