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3.0 head gasket
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Why not just replace the HG? You can do it for under $300 yourself. I just don't see the point in replacing the whole engine.
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Because I know as soon as I just replace the head gasket then something will happen like a valve will screw up or my oil pump go out or.....if it can happen then it will happen to me! If its new then that eases my mind a little better plus it would be good to go for a while. Then maybe I could start saving instead of dumping money into it left and right when it breaks down. Plus the motor has over 220,000 miles on it now...
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replace the head gasket then buy my 4runner!!!!
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<===i miss that one Mine: 1991 Landcruiser 2in OME lift 33in BFG A/T's The girl's: 2001 4runner 3in Revtek, 3in body lift 35in MT Baja Claws Marlin sliders TJM front bumper |
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Why not do a short block then? Why screw around with putting a different engine in there? And while you're at it huck some headers and an exhaust on that badboy and you'll be laughing.
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buy mine, put the money into the motor in mine and use it as your dd
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Well I would but that would cost me $6,000 instead of the $3,000 I'm looking at plus the old lady can't drive a stick.
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I'd imagine a shortblock rebuild would be a lot cheaper than the reman right? And with that cost will have money left over for other things should they need fixing IE Rad, tranny work, diff, etc. If you can descent short block rebuild it'll go for a long time with no issues.
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1993 Xtra Cab Pickup | 4x4 | 3.0 - V6 | R150F | Silver-Grey | Amsoil 10w30 synthetic oil | Amsoil Synthetic Drivetrain fluids| Borla Cat-back Exhaust | OME HD Leaf Springs | Bilstein HD Shocks | Downey Idler Arm Brace | Grey Husky Liners | SR5 Bucket Seat Swap | Color matched Canopy | Yakima racks | Line-X OTR | Michelin LTX A/T 31 x 10.5 x 15 | 323,600 KM's (202,250 miles) | Made in Japan - Vin starts with "J"| Fish on |
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If you notice I am a little disgruntled right now because of this. I just want something reliable.
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Ya I'd just go and replace the headgasket, water pump, timing belt etc. But if you're going to go the route of a new engine then I'd stay away from Jasper/Yamato as I've heard they aren't very well rebuilt (burns oil etc.) and ya you should be able to do it in a weekend with air tools and an engine hoist...you just need to figure out where you're going to put the new one before it goes in and the old one after it comes out.
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Timing belt and everything else has been changed out. So would it be better to pull the tranny out at the same time or no? I noticed on ebay that most of the sellers don't give you the intake manifold or timing set up. Although I saw this one company called greenleaf recyclers that already had this on their motors for a reasonable price and small core.
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hehehehe why do I smell a write up?
![]() HOW TO: Swap your engine! I would love seeing pics and reading it. You have a TFSM?Why not do a 7mgte swap - what would that cost ya? Just throwing out an idea is all And what will you do with this 3vze you are pulling
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do you have AC? if so that was one of the hardest parts when i helped my dad pull the V6 out of his Runner...trying to get it wedged off to the side without kinking any lines and findung a place to bungee it. I dunno about easyness when we pulled his we pulled the transmission and tcase but it you've got sdomething to hold the transmission up then id leave it in.
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Yeh I got AC. Gotta big floor jack to hold the tranny up so it shouldn't be a problem as far as that is concerned. Should I unbolt the manifolds from the heads before I take it out or just take it loose from the drivers side exhaust? As far as unbolting the tranny from the motor I just gotta get all the bellhousing bolts out right? Bet thats a pain to get to the top bolts. Just gotta good lead on a motor that a guy down the road put in his 90 4runner that is $1995 and $425 core which the price of the motor has shipping to me and my old core shipped to them included. The place is called Orient Engines out of Kentucky which they specialize in foreign motors. Also checking into new injectors not unless I can have them sent somewhere to be cleaned out by someone else for a much smaller charge than new injectors. Any inputs on the injectors? I know I'm putting new seals in them before they go back in.
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http://www.cruzinperformance.com/ does it also look locally for a place that does ultrasonic cleaniong and flow testing/balancing. I think mine was $75-80 here locally, but i guess those ultrasonic cleaning machine things are kinda rare. If you can't find a place then you can send em my way if you need to (its acorss the country tho...kinda last resort on your side im guessing) and I'll get em cleaned up and shipped back. On the exhaust my dads had the factory exhaust so we just took a sawzall to it as the bolts were all seized in and pulled the motor with the manifolds and cross over on it. Put in headers while its out....that's the best advice I can give you as it does make a lot of difference (engine runs cooler, more power, better fuel economy etc.) and its ALOT easier with the motor out then with it all back in and put back together. I'm pretty sure its just the bellhousing bolts just watch the clutch line when you pull the motor.
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No problem...just let me know when you want to. I dunno about the tranny cooler as I've got a manual. Ya once everything is unbolted it should slide right apart. See how it goes budget wise but i you can swing it then do the headers. Let me know if you need any help along the way, although I can't really lend a hand I can try to help you out with any probs.
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-Geoff *1991 Toyota Pickup Ext. Cab SR5 4x4 V6 5 spd K&N intake, port & polished heads with OS valves, port & polished intake manifold and plenum, NWOR headers and crossover, NWOR catback, Denso Iridium plugs, Redline Fluids, 4.88s, Rear LockRight, Aisin hubs, Chevy springs, BJ spacers, 2" RB body lift, 34x10.5 Swamper LTBs, WolphisWorks Sliders and bumpers, 400,000 mi. |
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I appreciate it
One last question about the header crossover...did you guys go with a crossover from the header manufacturer or have one custom made? I have 2.25" brand new exhaust and high flow cat and flowmaster so it should compliment it great. So I guess Downey makes the best headers? I've heard NWOR is crappy all around and I will deal heavily with people that are great in customer service! Also I am doing the denso Iridium plugs too...how are they working out for ya? Thinking about some good MSD wires too to give me a little better spark too.
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Hey...on my truck I went with the NWOR one that came with the headers mainly due to time constraints trying to get my truck done...it works great and has taken a pretty good beating with no leaks but I may rework it to get more clearence. My dad is getting one custom made to go with ihs NWOR headers. I dunno about Downey making the best headers I've heard bad things about em, but I 've heard bad things about NWORs service...from experience I can say that I've never had a problem with their service and have been quite helpful whenever I needed it. My dad knows one of the guys there and now that they don't have the retail store anymore the guy will pick up stuff for my dad and meet him somewhere wo that we don't have to pay shipping ( we live about 2 miles from their warehouse). Its your call, the quality on the NWOR headers look to be very good and they don't leak and they fit well (no clearence issues at all) but again these are just my experiences. I like the plugs dunno if i noticed much but they seem to burn cleaner (less crap in my exhaust pipe) and I'm sure they'd work better if I fed em some more power...also look into Jacobs ignition they dynoed an 3vze and got like 8hp just with their ignition setup.
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Try these guys http://www.orientengine.com/ $1999 exchange 3yr unlimted miles. My cousin had one installed and run great!
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Isn't the Jacobs ignition used in conjunction with a higher flowing motor for gaining them results? Kinda bombarding ya with questions but I want to get this straightened out before I start this project.
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Here's the Jacobs dyno test page: http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/reviews/jacobs/ thats over the stock stuff. The NWOR ones are $444.95 but this is last years catalog so I dunno if they're the same, I think so tho. No problem on the questions, I'll try and help ya with whatever other ones you have.
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