285's with a body lift?

HuskyRunner · 11-26-2006, 11:42 AM

So, Ive got some plans for my 98 sr5, but need some help. Will 285/75/16's fit with only a body lift? If so, how big? 1" or2"? I realize that a body lift won't improve clearance or performance, but my tires are shot and I would like to go up to 285's now, and when finances allow get a Sonoran Steel system 1 lift. Also I know that if the tires will fit I'll need either spacers or new wheels, but what backspacing or spacer size? Thanks for your help.

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d0ubledown · 11-26-2006, 11:52 AM

i think you can get away with an inch spacer, or 4.5 BS'd wheels. they will tuck nicely in the wells. stock is 4.3ish(i think? someone correct me). some run stockers with 285's, but i think theyre lifted. alot of steelies are about 3-3.75ish and stick out a bit more (which is what most run). a BL should also clear 285's...id go with a 1.5" just to be safe though. its an easy install. which 285's you thinking about going with? when ya get em on...lets go out wheelin! err..maybe not in this much snow..

and your wrong..BL WILL give clearance...for your tires

Angus1 · 11-26-2006, 12:05 PM

Ive got an 04 taco I used front top load sring spacers 2" and cleared 285's with a little triming.

HuskyRunner · 11-26-2006, 12:45 PM

Thanks for the quick reply Doubledown. Where would I begin to look for spacers in the lower mainland? I like the looks of the stock wheels, but if black steelies are cheaper... As for tires I'm leaning towards BFG A/T's. Yeah, too much snow right now...my truck is a white mound in the driveway. we've got about 10" since 6pm last night.

d0ubledown · 11-26-2006, 12:52 PM

talk to taran over at bigcountrycustoms.com. i just got a quote from him. 1.5" are on sale $95+ tax/pair and in stock. im sure you could get a good deal on 2 pair if you want to run all 4. i think 1" are a tiny bit more, but he'd have to get em for ya.

steelies are cheap. im sure if youre getting a set of bfg's you should be able to get a good deal on steelies all at one shop. if you can spring for steelies instead of spacers..do that. then you'd have your stockers for a backup set if you need.

and yes... a rear diff locked in 2WD with MT/R's on snow is NOT the ideal winter setup..but it sure is fun!

**waskillywabbit** · 11-26-2006, 03:50 PM

2" body lift will clear 285s for onroad use...you'll need more lift to wheel them and not rub like a fat woman in cordoroy pants.

HuskyRunner · 11-28-2006, 06:02 PM

Would it rub only on the pinch weld? or would there have to be trimming and beating? It would only be temporary but...don't really want to destroy the truck or the tires.

**waskillywabbit** · 11-28-2006, 06:21 PM

Without a body lift...you'll rub means you won't be able to turn.

HuskyRunner · 11-29-2006, 04:12 AM

But WITH a body lift, where would it rub? It looks like a little pinch weld pounding should fix the majority of it, right?

tacoma728 · 11-29-2006, 04:49 AM

IMO, six inches of lift is minimum for this size tire? My 33x12.50s still rub and i have a six inch lift. It is better to be safe than sorry.

AH64ID · 11-29-2006, 04:50 AM

Do you wheel the truck or just on the street?

A 2" BL allows for a 4" taller tire, so you should have no rubbing issues there, unless its on the aarm or frame.. A 1" BL allows for 2" bigger tires, so that should also work, and maybe just barely kiss at full turn and full stuff on the pinchweld.

A spacer or spring lift that isnt a bracket lift wont provide the clerance you need if you wheel the truck, you will need it and a BL to not rub. The BL is actually what provides the clearance, the springs/spacers just provide the added ride height and clearance under the frame...

tacoma728 · 11-29-2006, 04:58 AM

I wheel it in the mud and muck and up hills and everywhere, lots of flexing and turning. I have 3" spacer + 3" body.

KyleT · 11-29-2006, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by tacoma728

I wheel it in the mud and muck and up hills and everywhere, lots of flexing and turning. I have 3" spacer + 3" body.

You are most likey rubbing because you have a 12.5" wide tire. 285's are what, 11.4" wide? close to that though. width kills us vs. height.

AH64ID · 11-29-2006, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by tacoma728

I wheel it in the mud and muck and up hills and everywhere, lots of flexing and turning. I have 3" spacer + 3" body.

You have to remember that when you flex you take out the 3" spacer lift since you compress to the stock location.... so the 3" BL is providing the clearance, and the width is what is killing you, and possibly your BS on your rims. A friend of mine has a 6" on his taco and the 33's rub the plasitc liner... nothing a little trimming wouldnt fix, but still, He could probally run a 35x10.50 and not touch anywhere.

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Originally Posted by KyleT

You are most likey rubbing because you have a 12.5" wide tire. 285's are what, 11.4" wide? close to that though. width kills us vs. height.

Yeah, its amazing how much room you loose with wider tires..

HUTCHSTACO · 11-29-2006, 08:30 AM

width can be trouble, i don;t know but 3 inch body lift is a lot

04 Rocko Taco · 11-29-2006, 08:33 AM

its gotta be the width, on our trucks 3" will clear 33's for on road...off road you will rub a little "like a fat woman in courdory pants" (thanks Wabbit)

HUTCHSTACO · 11-29-2006, 09:11 AM

i like that, "like a fat woman in courdory pants", haha, its funny because its true

tacoma728 · 11-29-2006, 09:22 AM

Yeah, next set i will go with might be 34x10.50. Although they are wider, i really like these tires and they do great off road. 33x12.50 BFG All Terrains.

HuskyRunner · 11-29-2006, 03:57 PM

Excellent! Thank you for your help guys. It's settled - not done or paid for, but decided - 2" BL, wheels and 285's soon, and a Sonoran Steel kit when money allows. It's nice not to have to do it all at once. And it would look retarded to do the lift and BL first, then the tires. Now where's my wallet...funny, it's smoking and there is a hole where there used to be money. hmm.

tacoma728 · 11-30-2006, 04:40 AM

yeah, looks like you have modifitis, he he. Good luck with the lift and tires when funds allow!

11-26-2006, 11:52 AM	#2 (permalink)
d0ubledown Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: vansterdam BC. Posts: 1,432	i think you can get away with an inch spacer, or 4.5 BS'd wheels. they will tuck nicely in the wells. stock is 4.3ish(i think? someone correct me). some run stockers with 285's, but i think theyre lifted. alot of steelies are about 3-3.75ish and stick out a bit more (which is what most run). a BL should also clear 285's...id go with a 1.5" just to be safe though. its an easy install. which 285's you thinking about going with? when ya get em on...lets go out wheelin! err..maybe not in this much snow.. and your wrong..BL WILL give clearance...for your tires __________________ sonny ------- 1998 4Runner LTD. Fabtech CO fronts, OME/Pro Comp rears, SS rear links, Revtek diff drop, oem elocker, ARB RD90, 4.88's, 315/75/16 MT/R's on FZJ-80's, Trail Gear sliders, ARB Prado Bar, 1.5" 4Crawler BL, Tundra Brakes, wabfab disco's, IPF's...satoshi'd deckplated & ISR'd. SOLD!!! new ride: 1997 FZJ80. ome/arb/bfg/etc. when clinton lied..nobody died

11-26-2006, 12:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
d0ubledown Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: vansterdam BC. Posts: 1,432	talk to taran over at bigcountrycustoms.com. i just got a quote from him. 1.5" are on sale $95+ tax/pair and in stock. im sure you could get a good deal on 2 pair if you want to run all 4. i think 1" are a tiny bit more, but he'd have to get em for ya. steelies are cheap. im sure if youre getting a set of bfg's you should be able to get a good deal on steelies all at one shop. if you can spring for steelies instead of spacers..do that. then you'd have your stockers for a backup set if you need. and yes... a rear diff locked in 2WD with MT/R's on snow is NOT the ideal winter setup..but it sure is fun! __________________ sonny ------- 1998 4Runner LTD. Fabtech CO fronts, OME/Pro Comp rears, SS rear links, Revtek diff drop, oem elocker, ARB RD90, 4.88's, 315/75/16 MT/R's on FZJ-80's, Trail Gear sliders, ARB Prado Bar, 1.5" 4Crawler BL, Tundra Brakes, wabfab disco's, IPF's...satoshi'd deckplated & ISR'd. SOLD!!! new ride: 1997 FZJ80. ome/arb/bfg/etc. when clinton lied..nobody died

11-26-2006, 03:50 PM	#6 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,548	2" body lift will clear 285s for onroad use...you'll need more lift to wheel them and not rub like a fat woman in cordoroy pants. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

11-28-2006, 06:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,548	Without a body lift...you'll rub means you won't be able to turn. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

11-29-2006, 04:50 AM	#11 (permalink)
AH64ID Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Idaho Posts: 4,638	Do you wheel the truck or just on the street? A 2" BL allows for a 4" taller tire, so you should have no rubbing issues there, unless its on the aarm or frame.. A 1" BL allows for 2" bigger tires, so that should also work, and maybe just barely kiss at full turn and full stuff on the pinchweld. A spacer or spring lift that isnt a bracket lift wont provide the clerance you need if you wheel the truck, you will need it and a BL to not rub. The BL is actually what provides the clearance, the springs/spacers just provide the added ride height and clearance under the frame... __________________ -John '05 Dodge 3500 SRW 4x4 SLT 5.9 Cummins QC LB NV5600 2003 SR5 4Runner, V6 4WD. 1" cornfed lift Previous Toyota's '92 Red Truck NALA Speed doesn't kill, its the sudden stop that hurts.

11-26-2006, 12:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
Angus1 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: N.E. Pa. Posts: 207	Ive got an 04 taco I used front top load sring spacers 2" and cleared 285's with a little triming.

11-26-2006, 12:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
HuskyRunner Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chilliwack, B.C. Posts: 702	Thanks for the quick reply Doubledown. Where would I begin to look for spacers in the lower mainland? I like the looks of the stock wheels, but if black steelies are cheaper... As for tires I'm leaning towards BFG A/T's. Yeah, too much snow right now...my truck is a white mound in the driveway. we've got about 10" since 6pm last night.

11-28-2006, 06:02 PM	#7 (permalink)
HuskyRunner Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chilliwack, B.C. Posts: 702	Would it rub only on the pinch weld? or would there have to be trimming and beating? It would only be temporary but...don't really want to destroy the truck or the tires.

11-29-2006, 04:12 AM	#9 (permalink)
HuskyRunner Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chilliwack, B.C. Posts: 702	But WITH a body lift, where would it rub? It looks like a little pinch weld pounding should fix the majority of it, right?

11-29-2006, 04:49 AM	#10 (permalink)
tacoma728 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 698	IMO, six inches of lift is minimum for this size tire? My 33x12.50s still rub and i have a six inch lift. It is better to be safe than sorry.

11-29-2006, 04:58 AM	#12 (permalink)
tacoma728 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 698	I wheel it in the mud and muck and up hills and everywhere, lots of flexing and turning. I have 3" spacer + 3" body.

11-29-2006, 08:30 AM	#15 (permalink)
HUTCHSTACO Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bellevue, Washington Posts: 1,044	width can be trouble, i don;t know but 3 inch body lift is a lot __________________ 2006 Tacoma 4x4 TRD Sport with 20's and 285 Goodyear Furtura's and 2 inch cornfed lift 2002 Tacoma Extra Cab V6 (SOLD)

11-29-2006, 08:33 AM	#16 (permalink)
04 Rocko Taco Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 4,070	its gotta be the width, on our trucks 3" will clear 33's for on road...off road you will rub a little "like a fat woman in courdory pants" (thanks Wabbit) __________________ -Chris Tread Lightly! 04 Double Cab PreRunner. 3.4 - Auto 84 4Runner 4WD. 22R - 5 spd Lifted, Locked, 33x12.50 Disclaimer:My Photobucket is being revamped. If there are broken links, shoot me a PM. Thanks. ~Chris Great Toyota Tech

11-29-2006, 09:11 AM	#17 (permalink)
HUTCHSTACO Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bellevue, Washington Posts: 1,044	i like that, "like a fat woman in courdory pants", haha, its funny because its true __________________ 2006 Tacoma 4x4 TRD Sport with 20's and 285 Goodyear Furtura's and 2 inch cornfed lift 2002 Tacoma Extra Cab V6 (SOLD)

11-29-2006, 09:22 AM	#18 (permalink)
tacoma728 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 698	Yeah, next set i will go with might be 34x10.50. Although they are wider, i really like these tires and they do great off road. 33x12.50 BFG All Terrains.

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11-29-2006, 03:57 PM	#19 (permalink)
HuskyRunner Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chilliwack, B.C. Posts: 702	Excellent! Thank you for your help guys. It's settled - not done or paid for, but decided - 2" BL, wheels and 285's soon, and a Sonoran Steel kit when money allows. It's nice not to have to do it all at once. And it would look retarded to do the lift and BL first, then the tires. Now where's my wallet...funny, it's smoking and there is a hole where there used to be money. hmm.

11-30-2006, 04:40 AM	#20 (permalink)
tacoma728 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 698	yeah, looks like you have modifitis, he he. Good luck with the lift and tires when funds allow!

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