22RET internals vs. 22RE internals
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I'm planning on converting my 22RE to a 22RET and I was curious to what the internal differences were between the two engines. If it's just the pistons, I'm in good shape.
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Originally Posted by desert whomper
would u get a power increae by switching the internals to make it a 22ret?
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Originally Posted by desert whomper
would u get a power increae by switching the internals to make it a 22ret?
I think that converting a 22RE to a 22RET would be way too much effort for the gain it would provide. Besides the internal engine parts, you're going to need a turbo, the computer, wiring, and all that crap. The toyota turbo sucks anyway, from what I've read; you'd probably want to swap in a better turbo while you're at it. Why not just go all out and put a Chevy 4.3 in there, if more power is what you're looking for?
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Originally Posted by Nathan Buchanan
I think that converting a 22RE to a 22RET would be way too much effort for the gain it would provide. Besides the internal engine parts, you're going to need a turbo, the computer, wiring, and all that crap. The toyota turbo sucks anyway, from what I've read; you'd probably want to swap in a better turbo while you're at it. Why not just go all out and put a Chevy 4.3 in there, if more power is what you're looking for?
Has anyone done this before? Thanks.
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A 350 might be a little big. I think they are too long to put under the hood. I know it can be done, but the 4.3 seems to be a lot more common. Plus, a 350 may tear stuff up that a 4.3 wouldn't. This is from pirate: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=293888 ; it's a little helpful for the 4.3 swap.
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I dunno. Would a 4.3 swap be easier than a turbo converison? I would be running low boost, like 4-6. Would I have to do much more work, like higher cc injectors, fuel and ignition managment, etc?
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Well, a 4.3 will make more easy power than a turbo'd 22RE. Any sort of engine swap is going to be a pain in the ass. If you're looking for power, I don't think you're ever going to be happy with a 22RE. You could just tell yourself, "I drive a Toyota pickup, I'm not looking for power" and be happy with the gas mileage. If you want a 350, you might as well get an old Camaro; they are cooler than a Toyota. That's how I look at it anyway.
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Originally Posted by Nathan Buchanan
Well, a 4.3 will make more easy power than a turbo'd 22RE. Any sort of engine swap is going to be a pain in the ass. If you're looking for power, I don't think you're ever going to be happy with a 22RE. You could just tell yourself, "I drive a Toyota pickup, I'm not looking for power" and be happy with the gas mileage. If you want a 350, you might as well get an old Camaro; they are cooler than a Toyota. That's how I look at it anyway.
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Aw heck, I'd take my yota over a Camaro any day. I'll bet you can come up with more fun stuff to spend money on than a engine swap or turbocharging a 22RE. On the engine swap issue though, I wonder how hard it would be to put V6 motor mounts in and swap in a toyota 3.4? That may (or may not) be easier/cheaper than a chevy swap.
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Here is a cut and paste from the RTE guys at the yahoo group. I am in the process of building a RTE engine. I am swapping in a CT26 turbo(Supra/MR2). Once you make the holes longer in the manifold, it bolts right up. You would need a custom downpipe though.
The head is different on the turbo. Alot of guys put a RE head on their RTE to bump up compression and make a little better low end power.
The Exhaust manifold is different, of course.
The Air Intake Tube (from turbo to throttle body) is different.
The Throttle body (upper intake assembly) is different.
The Pistons are different (dished).
The clutch is different, heavy duty.
The radiator is different (port added for turbo cooling on top).
The Block is different (ports added for oil pressure and return
lines, although some 22RE blocks may be modified to be used on turbo).
The lower radiator hose assembly has been changed, the turbo has a 2
piece hose (the main large hoses, there are also smaller hoses on the
turbo) to accommodate the turbo cooling.
The gasket set is different.
-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-
Some similar items are:
The camshaft is the same.
The piston rods are the same.
The water pump is the same.
The crankshaft is the same.
The alternator power steering and AC compressor and mounting brackets
are the same.
The upper radiator hose is the same.
By the way it is RTE, not RET..
The head is different on the turbo. Alot of guys put a RE head on their RTE to bump up compression and make a little better low end power.
The Exhaust manifold is different, of course.
The Air Intake Tube (from turbo to throttle body) is different.
The Throttle body (upper intake assembly) is different.
The Pistons are different (dished).
The clutch is different, heavy duty.
The radiator is different (port added for turbo cooling on top).
The Block is different (ports added for oil pressure and return
lines, although some 22RE blocks may be modified to be used on turbo).
The lower radiator hose assembly has been changed, the turbo has a 2
piece hose (the main large hoses, there are also smaller hoses on the
turbo) to accommodate the turbo cooling.
The gasket set is different.
-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-
Some similar items are:
The camshaft is the same.
The piston rods are the same.
The water pump is the same.
The crankshaft is the same.
The alternator power steering and AC compressor and mounting brackets
are the same.
The upper radiator hose is the same.
By the way it is RTE, not RET..
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Originally Posted by jscarrozzo
Here is a cut and paste from the RTE guys at the yahoo group. I am in the process of building a RTE engine. I am swapping in a CT26 turbo(Supra/MR2). Once you make the holes longer in the manifold, it bolts right up. You would need a custom downpipe though.
The head is different on the turbo. Alot of guys put a RE head on their RTE to bump up compression and make a little better low end power.
The Exhaust manifold is different, of course.
The Air Intake Tube (from turbo to throttle body) is different.
The Throttle body (upper intake assembly) is different.
The Pistons are different (dished).
The clutch is different, heavy duty.
The radiator is different (port added for turbo cooling on top).
The Block is different (ports added for oil pressure and return
lines, although some 22RE blocks may be modified to be used on turbo).
The lower radiator hose assembly has been changed, the turbo has a 2
piece hose (the main large hoses, there are also smaller hoses on the
turbo) to accommodate the turbo cooling.
The gasket set is different.
-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-
Some similar items are:
The camshaft is the same.
The piston rods are the same.
The water pump is the same.
The crankshaft is the same.
The alternator power steering and AC compressor and mounting brackets
are the same.
The upper radiator hose is the same.
The head is different on the turbo. Alot of guys put a RE head on their RTE to bump up compression and make a little better low end power.
The Exhaust manifold is different, of course.
The Air Intake Tube (from turbo to throttle body) is different.
The Throttle body (upper intake assembly) is different.
The Pistons are different (dished).
The clutch is different, heavy duty.
The radiator is different (port added for turbo cooling on top).
The Block is different (ports added for oil pressure and return
lines, although some 22RE blocks may be modified to be used on turbo).
The lower radiator hose assembly has been changed, the turbo has a 2
piece hose (the main large hoses, there are also smaller hoses on the
turbo) to accommodate the turbo cooling.
The gasket set is different.
-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-
Some similar items are:
The camshaft is the same.
The piston rods are the same.
The water pump is the same.
The crankshaft is the same.
The alternator power steering and AC compressor and mounting brackets
are the same.
The upper radiator hose is the same.
Originally Posted by jscarrozzo
By the way it is RTE, not RET..