22r head gasket qustion

dr3wstar · 03-20-2005, 12:22 PM

so water is leaking out of my exhaust and the other day it was having issues starting... i have also had oil leaking/burning issues.

I am looking at getting a gasket set of for my 22r just to hold it over until i can rebuild a new one or swap something else in... just looking on ebay I found a few sets for cheap, I was just wondering if anyone had any opinions/experience with any of the the brands

1. ITM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT

2. Felpro

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT

should i aviod any of these??

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jimbo74 · 03-20-2005, 12:24 PM

well if price is an issue..... personally from all the research i have done, the aftermarket companies people either say about a 50% good bad margin..... but no one i ever saw when i was researching for mine ever said anything bad about the toyota OEM hg... i got one and couldnt be happier... most people think yeah aftermarket is better than OEM, but the OEM one costs a little bit more but is a lot more durable and beefy...i have the OEM on my truck

DudeBud · 03-20-2005, 12:27 PM

get the FELPRO kit better gaskets but just to hold you over the ITM kit will be fine

kyle_22r · 03-20-2005, 12:38 PM

get one of engnbldr's head gaskets. has metal around the fire rings as well as a LOT of other spots. he's very reasonable with his prices.

from what i hear, avoid felpro like the plague for 22R motors...

DudeBud · 03-20-2005, 12:48 PM

never had a problem with felpro best gaskets out there

jimbo74 · 03-20-2005, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimabena74

personally from all the research i have done, the aftermarket companies people either say about a 50% good bad margin

haha, i called that one

Yamaha+Toyota=Fun · 03-20-2005, 01:00 PM

I used engnbldr's head gasket set when i did my HG. No problems yet, and my water jackets on my head are corroded about 3 mm from the fire ring and it hasnt start leaking yet.

dr3wstar · 03-20-2005, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyle_22r

get one of engnbldr's head gaskets. has metal around the fire rings as well as a LOT of other spots. he's very reasonable with his prices.

from what i hear, avoid felpro like the plague for 22R motors...

can anyone else confirm this?

jimbo74 · 03-20-2005, 09:41 PM

i have also heard felpro have problems, and i did tons of researching before i did mine... i havent heard 1 bad thing about engnbldr's stuff from anyone... also engnbldr is a member on this site... he responds here to emails on his site, postings on this board if he sees them and also PMs from this board... that says a lot when looking for customer service, this is part of the reason 4crawler offroad has had repeat business with me

dr3wstar · 03-20-2005, 09:43 PM

one other questions for a gasket set.

my yota is a 84 pu with a carbed 22r is there a difference in the 85+ gasket kits? or would i be fine?

jimbo74 · 03-20-2005, 09:47 PM

ah, this part gets tricky... contact engnbldr and ask, as i am not completely sure... because the 85+ 22r is differnt from the 84 and earlier... but depending on the build date of your truck and motor may play an issue in this.....

dr3wstar · 03-20-2005, 11:15 PM

thanks for the info I will besure to contact him

engnbldr · 03-20-2005, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dr3wstar

one other questions for a gasket set.

my yota is a 84 pu with a carbed 22r is there a difference in the 85+ gasket kits? or would i be fine?

>>>*See? I am around....*LOL** *Would have been sooner but I was pretending to be bowling this evening...*Don't ask about the score.....Yep, 1983-1984 uses a different set, mostly due to the exhaust manifold port shape. HGS908 early, HGS900 for 85 & later.

We use aftermarket head gaskets, the surprise will be how many gaskets in the sets are exactly the same as original. (Toyota doesn't make gaskets, they buy them from good companies, too)

Felpro is a very good gasket with just one flaw, it is very hard. Best to use them with a decked block and a surfaced head, if so, you should have no problems. *Bet I have sold 1000 sets of them, but that good family owned company sold out to Federal-Mogul, now they are packed with items I no longer recognize so I dropped the line. *Just MHO there...still a good set..

I will say their failure rate is higher than the graphite impregnated core designs, and I am now VERY partial to the new "slipper plate" gaskets. The success rate is excellent, that tells this old man everything I need to know.

All that is is a full metal shield, this means when the machine shop screws up the micro-inch pattern on your head, it still can't grip the actual seal and defeat it.....So it is forgiving, a nice edge for those who don't have a lot of experience with engines......*EB

dr3wstar · 03-21-2005, 07:30 PM

before i go a head and order the wronge part i have one more questions.. what year is my yota? lol....

my title says 85 my door tag say nov 84?

DudeBud · 03-21-2005, 07:35 PM

nov of 84 would make your truck an 85

dr3wstar · 03-21-2005, 07:46 PM

alright just making sure, Thanks for the info

engnbldr -

could you give me the info for the 85 gasket set i will go a head an place and order with you

My email is a_epstein_@hotmail.com

Cell 661 4728381

Thanks
Drew

Yamaha+Toyota=Fun · 03-21-2005, 07:47 PM

I'd say go with engnbldr's stuff. Very good stuff and as you can tell, he knows what he is talking about.

Thanks again Ted for the gaskets!!

DudeBud · 03-21-2005, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dr3wstar

alright just making sure, Thanks for the info

engnbldr -

could you give me the info for the 85 gasket set i will go a head an place and order with you

My email is a_epstein_@hotmail.com

Cell 661 4728381

Thanks
Drew

might want to get a hold of him this way http://www.engnbldr.com/

jimbo74 · 03-21-2005, 08:18 PM

he answers pms here as well, but he isnt on the site everyday like most of us... when i sent him an inquiry email, he replied t oit within 6 hours....

03-20-2005, 12:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
DudeBud Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: WA ,monroe Posts: 1,886	get the FELPRO kit better gaskets but just to hold you over the ITM kit will be fine __________________ Dan 95 4runner 3vze A/T 84 4runner sr5 Ford 302 T-18 4spd yota t-case yota front and rear both open 37X13.00 boggers 88 4runner 22re 5spd

03-20-2005, 12:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
kyle_22r Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Lacey, WA Posts: 3,992	get one of engnbldr's head gaskets. has metal around the fire rings as well as a LOT of other spots. he's very reasonable with his prices. from what i hear, avoid felpro like the plague for 22R motors... __________________ 1998 tacoma, 3RZ-FE, 5 speed, 30x9.5R15 M/Ts past toys: 1984 4x2 1979 4x4 1991 4x4

03-20-2005, 12:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
DudeBud Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: WA ,monroe Posts: 1,886	never had a problem with felpro best gaskets out there __________________ Dan 95 4runner 3vze A/T 84 4runner sr5 Ford 302 T-18 4spd yota t-case yota front and rear both open 37X13.00 boggers 88 4runner 22re 5spd

03-20-2005, 01:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
Yamaha+Toyota=Fun Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bellingham, Washington and Ketchikan, Alaska Posts: 1,081	I used engnbldr's head gasket set when i did my HG. No problems yet, and my water jackets on my head are corroded about 3 mm from the fire ring and it hasnt start leaking yet. __________________ 92 pickup... sold 90 integra- b18b turbo, intercooled, 10 lbs of boost, 240 whp... blown up 79 2wd yota pickup

03-21-2005, 07:35 PM	#15 (permalink)
DudeBud Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: WA ,monroe Posts: 1,886	nov of 84 would make your truck an 85 __________________ Dan 95 4runner 3vze A/T 84 4runner sr5 Ford 302 T-18 4spd yota t-case yota front and rear both open 37X13.00 boggers 88 4runner 22re 5spd

03-20-2005, 12:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
jimbo74 Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Nor*Cal Posts: 6,582	well if price is an issue..... personally from all the research i have done, the aftermarket companies people either say about a 50% good bad margin..... but no one i ever saw when i was researching for mine ever said anything bad about the toyota OEM hg... i got one and couldnt be happier... most people think yeah aftermarket is better than OEM, but the OEM one costs a little bit more but is a lot more durable and beefy...i have the OEM on my truck

03-20-2005, 09:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
jimbo74 Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Nor*Cal Posts: 6,582	i have also heard felpro have problems, and i did tons of researching before i did mine... i havent heard 1 bad thing about engnbldr's stuff from anyone... also engnbldr is a member on this site... he responds here to emails on his site, postings on this board if he sees them and also PMs from this board... that says a lot when looking for customer service, this is part of the reason 4crawler offroad has had repeat business with me

03-20-2005, 09:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
dr3wstar Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 18	one other questions for a gasket set. my yota is a 84 pu with a carbed 22r is there a difference in the 85+ gasket kits? or would i be fine?

03-20-2005, 09:47 PM	#11 (permalink)
jimbo74 Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Nor*Cal Posts: 6,582	ah, this part gets tricky... contact engnbldr and ask, as i am not completely sure... because the 85+ 22r is differnt from the 84 and earlier... but depending on the build date of your truck and motor may play an issue in this.....

03-20-2005, 11:15 PM	#12 (permalink)
dr3wstar Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 18	thanks for the info I will besure to contact him

03-21-2005, 07:30 PM	#14 (permalink)
dr3wstar Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 18	before i go a head and order the wronge part i have one more questions.. what year is my yota? lol.... my title says 85 my door tag say nov 84?

03-21-2005, 07:46 PM	#16 (permalink)
dr3wstar Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 18	alright just making sure, Thanks for the info engnbldr - could you give me the info for the 85 gasket set i will go a head an place and order with you My email is a_epstein_@hotmail.com Cell 661 4728381 Thanks Drew Last edited by dr3wstar; 03-21-2005 at 07:50 PM.

03-21-2005, 07:47 PM	#17 (permalink)
Yamaha+Toyota=Fun Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bellingham, Washington and Ketchikan, Alaska Posts: 1,081	I'd say go with engnbldr's stuff. Very good stuff and as you can tell, he knows what he is talking about. Thanks again Ted for the gaskets!! __________________ 92 pickup... sold 90 integra- b18b turbo, intercooled, 10 lbs of boost, 240 whp... blown up 79 2wd yota pickup

03-21-2005, 08:18 PM	#19 (permalink)
jimbo74 Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Nor*Cal Posts: 6,582	he answers pms here as well, but he isnt on the site everyday like most of us... when i sent him an inquiry email, he replied t oit within 6 hours....

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