1st gen gettin some mods!

flecker · 07-08-2003, 08:34 PM

Decided to upgrade! Going to install a new cam(trd class1), new rear springs (downey), header, exhaust(2/14"), and still trying to figure the front end out... know anything about the ifs set up from downey? may just go with that! Looking for some travel here. Oh... also a locker for the rear (detroit gearless). Do any "experts" out there see a flaw in my plan as of yet???

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89-4run · 07-08-2003, 09:19 PM

how do you get springs on a 1st gen in the back? expensive project? If not let me know.

flecker · 07-08-2003, 09:25 PM

Well.... I guess I should have said LEAF springs for the rear. Not too expensive...:pat:

Erich_870 · 07-08-2003, 11:14 PM

Are you getting a lift kit from Downey?

If you aren't, I don't think I would go for a set of new springs. Chances are you will want a lift before you need new springs again and that would be wasted money. I need to fix my 1 gen rear end sag too, but I think I'm going to go with an add-a-leaf so I don't spend a lot twice. I know they say the add-a-leafs make it stiffer, but frankly, my whole set of leaves are perfectly flat, sitting on my over load bar.

In my case anything would be better. Don't know if yours are to that point.

Just my .02

Let us know what you decide.

Erich

flecker · 07-09-2003, 03:41 AM

No, not really going for all out lift.... I am fine with 31's. Just wanted to get a little more flex out of the ifs and be gone of the sag in the rear. Yeah, mine are already on the overloads right now and need help of some kind, just figured new springs might do the job.

livelarg · 07-09-2003, 08:16 AM

Have you looked at the thread about putting the airshocks to relieve the rear sag? If you are not going for a lift anyway. that would be a cool way of doing it.

flecker · 07-09-2003, 06:08 PM

Yeah... thought about the airshock fix but figured it might eventually sag again once the shocks took a dump. Leaf replacement seems to be a better idea to permanently fix the sag
and I might just do some stout torsion bars up front. I will take some pics as I do the work to show you guys what all I am doin and how it all turns out!!! Also haven't made up my mind yet on a locker or posi yet... I want onroad handling as well as offroad. Can't afford an ARB or Electric locker so I will compromise on maybe a Detroit gearless or a NoSlip from trutrack. What do you guys think would be best???

livelarg · 07-09-2003, 06:41 PM

I am just dealing with the sag until I can afford a lift. the full kit as about $700, and I can install (most likely screw up) it myself.
The kit comes with the rear leafs.
Then all I will have to get is better torsion bars.

I would love to get the new ARB for front IFS. But that will be a while. At least until my pimp pays me what he owes me.
I would go with the limited slip from trutrack. It will do all you need unless you are a serious rock crawler.

Be sure to get before and after pics.

07-08-2003, 11:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
Erich_870 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Juneau, AK Posts: 973	Are you getting a lift kit from Downey? If you aren't, I don't think I would go for a set of new springs. Chances are you will want a lift before you need new springs again and that would be wasted money. I need to fix my 1 gen rear end sag too, but I think I'm going to go with an add-a-leaf so I don't spend a lot twice. I know they say the add-a-leafs make it stiffer, but frankly, my whole set of leaves are perfectly flat, sitting on my over load bar. In my case anything would be better. Don't know if yours are to that point. Just my .02 Let us know what you decide. Erich __________________ 99' Black Highlander 4runner / Garage Profile Black powder coated 8x16 Wheeler Off-Road allow wheels / Husky floor liners / Thule MOAB rack / Custom Sub Enclosure / Back-up lights "I don't high-light my hair, I've still got a pair, yeah honey, I'm still a guy. My eye brows aint plucked, there's a gun in my truck, Oh thank GOD, I'm still a guy!" Brad Paisley

07-09-2003, 08:16 AM	#6 (permalink)
livelarg Contributing Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Oklahoma city Posts: 308	Have you looked at the thread about putting the airshocks to relieve the rear sag? If you are not going for a lift anyway. that would be a cool way of doing it. __________________ LIfe's short, Drive Hard! 88' 4Runner. ISR Mod, Airbox Mod. Kenwood CD with Hardwired Ipod 40 gig Infinity 6.5 seperates with Infinity Basslink Sub 91' Landcruiser 80 series 2" body lift 32-12.5 Swampers Hi-lift Jack Kenwood CD with Hardwired Ipod 40 gig

07-09-2003, 06:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
livelarg Contributing Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Oklahoma city Posts: 308	I am just dealing with the sag until I can afford a lift. the full kit as about $700, and I can install (most likely screw up) it myself. The kit comes with the rear leafs. Then all I will have to get is better torsion bars. I would love to get the new ARB for front IFS. But that will be a while. At least until my pimp pays me what he owes me. I would go with the limited slip from trutrack. It will do all you need unless you are a serious rock crawler. Be sure to get before and after pics. __________________ LIfe's short, Drive Hard! 88' 4Runner. ISR Mod, Airbox Mod. Kenwood CD with Hardwired Ipod 40 gig Infinity 6.5 seperates with Infinity Basslink Sub 91' Landcruiser 80 series 2" body lift 32-12.5 Swampers Hi-lift Jack Kenwood CD with Hardwired Ipod 40 gig

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07-08-2003, 09:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
89-4run Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 509	how do you get springs on a 1st gen in the back? expensive project? If not let me know.

07-08-2003, 09:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
flecker Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: White Mountains, Arizona (Yes it does snow in AZ) Posts: 505	Well.... I guess I should have said LEAF springs for the rear. Not too expensive...:pat:

07-09-2003, 03:41 AM	#5 (permalink)
flecker Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: White Mountains, Arizona (Yes it does snow in AZ) Posts: 505	No, not really going for all out lift.... I am fine with 31's. Just wanted to get a little more flex out of the ifs and be gone of the sag in the rear. Yeah, mine are already on the overloads right now and need help of some kind, just figured new springs might do the job.

07-09-2003, 06:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
flecker Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: White Mountains, Arizona (Yes it does snow in AZ) Posts: 505	Yeah... thought about the airshock fix but figured it might eventually sag again once the shocks took a dump. Leaf replacement seems to be a better idea to permanently fix the sag and I might just do some stout torsion bars up front. I will take some pics as I do the work to show you guys what all I am doin and how it all turns out!!! Also haven't made up my mind yet on a locker or posi yet... I want onroad handling as well as offroad. Can't afford an ARB or Electric locker so I will compromise on maybe a Detroit gearless or a NoSlip from trutrack. What do you guys think would be best???