chriso

Well I have been holding out on my yota while working on my old ford pickup but I am wanting to lift it and get new rims some low priced black steelies but I cant seem to find any "if anyone can help me out" I want to get a decent lift out of it and throw 33's on it so I have decent clearance any suggestions? by the way its a 1998 4 runner it's also got all the plastic mud guards and what not around the fenders the running boards came with it stock... how do i remove these? I don't want to spend a grip on everything I just want it to have more clearance and a nice smooth ride any help would be appreciated thanks guys!!!

Gerdo

First, do a search for 33" tires. There have been alot of people asking about the same thing lately.

Next, with 33" tires you will have some rubbing (depending on the tire, wheel and lift) If you use a skinnier tire you will have less rubbing. If you have a small backspacing you will rub more on turns. If you go with 33s you will probably want to regear but most have no problems with 32s (depending on what gears you have)

Most people that go with 33s do a 3" lift and a 1" body lift and have minimal rubbing.

(I'm not a fan of body lifts but 1" isn't too bad, more than that is just stupid)

chriso

It's just a stock 4 cylinder but I would prefer to go with 33's I like the beefier looking tires as it is now its pretty capable its my hunting and camping rig but I need more clearance. Whats one of the more common 33's as far as size? and what would I need to do to make them not rub? Also who makes a good priced lift kit or how do I go about lifting it... My father and grandfather are both mechanics and will help me with labor...

chriso

Any help???

Ed H.

search

Gerdo

Start here.
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f31/...ift-faq-44741/

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/3...-coils-167204/

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/n...-101-a-166177/

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/c...-1-2-a-167308/

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f120...ion-faq-73612/

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/3...anyone-118366/

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/2...-rig-d-151544/ his are 33.3x10x16 and his vehicle is a 4 cylinder with 4.88 gears, 3"+ of lift

33s = re-gear!

You can piece together a lift from multipule sources or get most if not all from Toytec or you can order a Sonoran.

chriso

I thought sonoran didn't ship to CA anymore or something... Also what size rims should I run with 33's? I want some black steelies The Cragars look cool and they are inexpensive...

chriso

Well I am looking on toytec the only problem I have is I don't know what exact parts I need I am wanting a 3 lift maybe even more??? who sells the stuff to get the bodylift?

crolison

For 33's id run a 255/85/16 nice tall and skinny.

With 2" in the front and 3" in the rear I only had to pound in the pinch weld and trim the rear bumper to stop it from rubbing. Full flex still doesnt rub.

I am running toytech coilovers up front and ome bilstein combo in the rear. My 4runner is a heavy sob and they lift it and provide a nice ride.

chriso

oh man Im such a newb to this stuff haha 255/85/16 im not even sure what those dimensions mean... I dont really want the tires to be super tall and skinny I want em a little wide not to wide though...

jjrgr21

tundra springs up front and LC coils out back, cheaper and flex pretty good

Gerdo

Here is another thread on another forum with almost the same problem/question.

***P.S. click on words that are underlined like "Here." because they are links to websites)***

Gerdo

The tires that Crolison is running are 255/85/16. The 285 is a measurement from bead to bead (285 is bigger than a 265). 85 is the percentage that is sidewall (an 85 is taller/narrower than a 75). 16 is the wheel size. More of an explaination. And this. These specs are close to Crolison's These are the specs on a 285/75/16. It is slightly shorter but wider. *scroll down to compare sizes* **find the tire on your truck for comparison**

(section width is not tread width, it is the tire width whan inflated, sidewal to sidewall)

As stated earler- a wider tire will rub more than a narrower one. A wheel with less backspacing will make the tire rub more on turns. A wider wheel will make the tire rub more.

Bigger tires weight more than smaller ones. Narrower tires weigh less than wider ones. Big wide tires require more power to get them spinning. (lower gears)

chriso

I told my father I wanted to lift the yota and hes got a 88 all tricked out and said that even if I lift it and do all this stuff I wont be able to touch his truck "straight axle" is there that much more of a advantage? more travel? basically can I have a rad wheeling truck without a straight axle? Is it worth lifting and putting new tires on or just putting the money towards a straight axle front end to swap? my father and grandfather are both mechanics and grandfather used to own a shop that specialized in yotas way back in the day and his yota sure can climb... haha...

Gerdo

Tell your father that he is full of $h!!^.

Ok the truth. Trucks with solid axles do flex more. They will keep the tires on the ground more. But IFS trucks can be very capable. They will lift tires on the rough stuff. That is something you have to learn and get used to. Once a wheel is in the air you need to slowly drive to rock the wheel back on the ground. You will need lockers to go where a solid axle truck can go un-locked.


True, most rock crawlers have solid axles.

Conatus

everything you want to know has been covered. search and read.

chriso

I know how to use the search function I dont need everyone getting on my A$$ about it I have read quite a bit by now and am still not to familiar... Gerdo how much lift do you have on your truck and did you just put tundra shocks up front and the OME 891's in back and thats all???

Gerdo

The search is located in the blue bar near the top of this page. The best way is to click on it and move down to the first advanced search. Then input key words and the forum you want to search. It should look like This.

Click on the tag on this reply marked "see my 4runner". Most of the specs are there. Toward the bottom are lift heights for OME coils.

The quick answer is... I used Tundra TRD coils (not shocks) in front and got ~2". I also lifted the back with OME 890 coils and gained ~3.25" (890s should lift 2.75") The rear of my truck had really sagged.

I have switched out to 891 coils in back and gained another 3/4". Now I need to add a top out spacer to the front. (Top out spacer is a thin spacer that is added to the top of the shock/coil combo.) Thin ones, 1/4", can be added without changing the studs. Thicker ones require you to use longer studs. The thicker the Top out spacer the more wheel droop, the more droop the more bind on CVs, the more bind the higher chance of poping CVs. (you gain almost twice the thickness of the top out spacer in height because of the spring placement)

steveh

Here's my situation. I have a '99 4Runner that needs tires. I do my rockcrawling (for now) with my '78 FJ40. However, I would like at some time in the near future to modify my 4wheeling experiences with AC, Pwr windows, CC ... You get the idea...

Anyway, I have some 285x75-16 AT's with most of their tread in the back yard that I figure I can put on for cheaper by lifting it than buying new tires. I also need new shocks.

I have some FZJ80 front coils for the back (figure I might need air bags to stiffen it up a little). I'm wondering what shocks (brand and #) I should use in the back. I like Bilsteins, but I'm not particular...

For the front, I guess I need new struts, or maybe just a 3" spacer for now. In a couple of years I want to put 35's or 37's on it, so I don't want to spend a lot on this interim lift - just enough to get SWMBO to liking that more than the '40.

So, what shocks and front struts would be best considering I don't want to go Sonoran Steel Full Blown lift right now?

chriso

I think Ill do the 891's out back but is their another way to straight up gain atleast 3 in front without using a spacer? Or what combination would give a 4 inch lift? I would prefer to do four without using big spacers... So when you guys say the back saggs do you mean it hands lower that it should or what? sorry im not used to the lingo guys!!!
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