slacker's 2nd 1983 Trekker Build-Up Thread - Page 3

slacker · 03-20-2008, 04:35 PM

ok so a little bit more today .. thank hevens , a weekend is comming ,

but I really want to get the engine secured and up off of the floor though .

so .. I yanked it off again , and started to work on cutting the stock mounts off . got them cut off , and frame ready for the new mounts .
and finally (for today)
I decided to put on the front clip , and strip it , so I will be able to check for clearances ..

you can see more pics on the Trekker board if your interested .

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yotasavg · 03-20-2008, 06:09 PM

that is going to be one awesome trekker! are you gonna make it an "fe"?

slacker · 03-20-2008, 06:27 PM

5vzFE .....

yotasavg · 03-20-2008, 06:35 PM

that's what i was saying, sorry if it was unclear but i figured you'd get it!!lol. but really, will it be blown?

slacker · 03-21-2008, 08:41 AM

we'll see .. 190hp might just be enough ..

slacker · 03-21-2008, 05:52 PM

ok .. so its not going to be as "easy" as I first thought >

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original mounts wont work ...

got the front all degreased , and cleaned and stripped

got the engine in , and leveled .. and figured this is where I wanted it .
I left some room between the alt , and the frame .. and also I was hoping to use the original motor mounts .

got the front clip on ......

NO way .. I cant have it sitting this high .. it's about 1' above the original hood line ..

so , time to start stripping the motor a bit , so I can get it down a bit .. I also think it's inevetable , I am going to have to use a body lift

..

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RunnerUp · 03-21-2008, 06:13 PM

WHATEVER YOU DO, do not give this rare vehicle that will prob. be one of a kind when its done, to a 16 year old male. that is unless you want to hear him explain just exactly HOW he managed to rip the frame from the body when he wrecks it....

im trying to find a trekker or pre 86 4runner right now, cant find one in my price range though so its gonna be awhile i guess

*SUBSCRIBED*

slacker · 03-21-2008, 06:43 PM

dont worry .. this one is mine .. i'll probabally drive it till I'm a gonner ... (unless I sell it) , everything is for sale right ?

anyway .. check out the Trekker board (in my signature) .. there are a couple of units just being sold .. and always a few here and there .

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rowdy235 · 03-21-2008, 10:12 PM

wow, that motors settin a bit high. Are you going to modify the motor mounts? I concur the body lift is inevitable at this point.

yotasavg · 03-22-2008, 02:11 PM

oh come on.........just use a 12" body lift!

4banginRunner · 03-22-2008, 02:57 PM

so how are you going to clear the motor?

slacker · 03-22-2008, 05:39 PM

ok .. so took a " step back" today , and had a look at "things"

remove a bunch of "extra accessories" I wont be using ..

I went over to a buddies place , and had a look at his /83 .. and did some measuring (I dont have a complete truck)

I found basically the engines are the same length , but the 3.4 is wider , and taller .

so I did some more "mocking up" and I think I have it now ..

so with the crossover on the passenger side .. it actually hits the frame .. it also would interfere with the slave cylinder , and clutch fork , so It MUST be modified .

using the crossover pipe means , I cant use a rad . ORS wants $370.00 + a core charge on the flanges for a crossover pipe .. Downey wants $395.00 for a set of chrome headers .

I have a feeling I'm going with the Downey headers . ??

ok ... so .. now with the crossover removed and the a/c compresser .. I can now get the engine where it should be , or where I want it .
>>> the stick indicates the firewall <<<

>>> the stick indicates the hood line <<<

and finally .... fan and rad ..

I still have a bit of room at the back , so I will move it back a little further .. + I know a guy at a fiberglass shop (

) that can build a custom hood .. and NO BODY LIFT REQUIRED .

I think I will be using the original upper mounts , and build some lowers .. not sure on the isolator yet ..

also at this height .. there seems to be lots of clearance on the oil pan .. I'm using the stock "push/pull steering" .. but if I were to go to crossover , I would need to change out the oil pan for sure ..

back to work !

Island_Yota · 03-22-2008, 09:32 PM

Maybe custom intake manifold instead of a custom hood? A bulge hood would be interesting on a first gen, Il bet it will look good though.

rowdy235 · 03-22-2008, 09:49 PM

just personal preference but i'd try anything before a custom hood. I just would want to keep it stock looking. Maybe a custom intake like I.Y. suggested, plus a 1-2" BL

ulfr · 03-22-2008, 10:15 PM

Nice work.
But one thing I don't get, why are you so afraid of a body lift, yet no prob with the push-pull steering? I'd rather be afraid of the steering mechanism rather than the body lift.

slacker · 03-23-2008, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ulfr

Nice work.
But one thing I don't get, why are you so afraid of a body lift, yet no prob with the push-pull steering? I'd rather be afraid of the steering mechanism rather than the body lift.

it's just a personal preferance .. I just dont like em! . and stock steering , NEVER had a problem . again my preferance .

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ocdropzone · 03-23-2008, 09:40 AM

Extend your front cowl a few inches, make your own High Rise-longer front fenders , kill the fan clutch and go with dual electric fans....
Kill the track bar....random thoughts

ulfr · 03-23-2008, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slacker

it's just a personal preferance .. I just dont like em! . and stock steering , NEVER had a problem . again my preferance .

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Nothin' wrong with that.

Just FYI, the reason I dislike the push-pull steering in the SFA hilux is because I've gone numerous rescue missions because of this piece broken.
But again, it's your call.

slacker · 03-23-2008, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ocdropzone

Extend your front cowl a few inches, make your own High Rise-longer front fenders , kill the fan clutch and go with dual electric fans....
Kill the track bar....random thoughts

no no no ... Robb , i'm not wanting to re-think the wheel here on this one .. and geeze Louise , I am working on a budget ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by ulfr

Nothin' wrong with that.

Just FYI, the reason I dislike the push-pull steering in the SFA hilux is because I've gone numerous rescue missions because of this piece broken.
But again, it's your call.

Thats cool .. " to each ther own " Personally I think It's a waist of money , just a "new fad" . I think the whole reason it came out in the first place was bad driving and HARD CORE rock crawlin' .. not necessary for the "average driver" .. just my opinion !

I have never had a problem .. many many years of HARD " rompin' " (28 years experiance) and neither I , nor 1 of my buddies ever had a problem ..

36" swampers , ARB's locked front and rear , w/ 5:29's .. 150 RWHP .
13 years I had this truck , and EVERY week I drove er' hard and put er' up wet .. not ever 1 problem with the stock steering .. EVER , and that is my reason !

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ocdropzone · 03-23-2008, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slacker

no no no ... Robb , i'm not wanting to re-think the wheel here on this one .. and geeze Louise , I am working on a budget ...

.

Just some random thoughts my friend....I don't blame you on the budget thing...My wife has been doing some math lately

that is getting me in trouble....even though all the big stuff I had permission. She was even at the U pull it today helping me look for some seatbelts to use in the back of the Trekker..

Just remember to document everything on this conversion so I can swing it too sometime

slacker · 03-23-2008, 05:16 PM

you know me .... post whore .

ocdropzone · 03-23-2008, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slacker

you know me .... post whore .

I think that you got that backwards...must be describing me

slacker · 03-23-2008, 06:10 PM

oh yeah ..

slacker · 04-02-2008, 05:57 PM

so .... wee ... progress today .

cut a couple of pieces off ..

also the brake line mounts .

ready to go ...

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phildelfino · 04-02-2008, 07:28 PM

I need more,,,

03-20-2008, 06:09 PM	#52 (permalink)
yotasavg Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chico Republic, NOR*CAL Posts: 1,625	that is going to be one awesome trekker! are you gonna make it an "fe"? __________________ -Andrew 94 4Runner 3.0 Auto. I got mods Now Back in Action!

03-20-2008, 06:27 PM	#53 (permalink)
slacker Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: BC Canada Posts: 2,114	5vzFE ..... __________________ 86 4x4 , fiberglass bed , 1/2 doors , hood ... more to come . 84 2WD "hotrod" Intercooled 7MGTE 83 Trekker SR5 CURRENT BUILD My home page MY PAGE 2WD fourm I frequent NEW Trekker forum

03-20-2008, 06:35 PM	#54 (permalink)
yotasavg Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chico Republic, NOR*CAL Posts: 1,625	that's what i was saying, sorry if it was unclear but i figured you'd get it!!lol. but really, will it be blown? __________________ -Andrew 94 4Runner 3.0 Auto. I got mods Now Back in Action!

03-21-2008, 08:41 AM	#55 (permalink)
slacker Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: BC Canada Posts: 2,114	we'll see .. 190hp might just be enough .. __________________ 86 4x4 , fiberglass bed , 1/2 doors , hood ... more to come . 84 2WD "hotrod" Intercooled 7MGTE 83 Trekker SR5 CURRENT BUILD My home page MY PAGE 2WD fourm I frequent NEW Trekker forum

03-21-2008, 05:52 PM	#56 (permalink)
slacker Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: BC Canada Posts: 2,114	ok .. so its not going to be as "easy" as I first thought > .. original mounts wont work ... got the front all degreased , and cleaned and stripped got the engine in , and leveled .. and figured this is where I wanted it . I left some room between the alt , and the frame .. and also I was hoping to use the original motor mounts . got the front clip on ...... NO way .. I cant have it sitting this high .. it's about 1' above the original hood line .. so , time to start stripping the motor a bit , so I can get it down a bit .. I also think it's inevetable , I am going to have to use a body lift .. . __________________ 86 4x4 , fiberglass bed , 1/2 doors , hood ... more to come . 84 2WD "hotrod" Intercooled 7MGTE 83 Trekker SR5 CURRENT BUILD My home page MY PAGE 2WD fourm I frequent NEW Trekker forum

03-21-2008, 06:13 PM	#57 (permalink)
RunnerUp Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 1,020	WHATEVER YOU DO, do not give this rare vehicle that will prob. be one of a kind when its done, to a 16 year old male. that is unless you want to hear him explain just exactly HOW he managed to rip the frame from the body when he wrecks it.... im trying to find a trekker or pre 86 4runner right now, cant find one in my price range though so its gonna be awhile i guess SUBSCRIBED __________________ Kyle 2002 4Runner - Lifted/Locked/Armored/Charged - 145k Miles 2007 4Runner V8 Sport Edition 4WD 20k Miles Buy My Stuff!!! http://www.yotatech.com/f109/97-4run...rt-out-151470/

03-21-2008, 06:43 PM	#58 (permalink)
slacker Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: BC Canada Posts: 2,114	dont worry .. this one is mine .. i'll probabally drive it till I'm a gonner ... (unless I sell it) , everything is for sale right ? anyway .. check out the Trekker board (in my signature) .. there are a couple of units just being sold .. and always a few here and there . . __________________ 86 4x4 , fiberglass bed , 1/2 doors , hood ... more to come . 84 2WD "hotrod" Intercooled 7MGTE 83 Trekker SR5 CURRENT BUILD My home page MY PAGE 2WD fourm I frequent NEW Trekker forum

03-21-2008, 10:12 PM	#59 (permalink)
rowdy235 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Sweet Home, OR Posts: 1,561	wow, that motors settin a bit high. Are you going to modify the motor mounts? I concur the body lift is inevitable at this point. __________________ The Daily Driver: 1998 Tacoma \| Regular Cab \| 4WD \| 2.7L \| 5-Speed Stick \| Mostly Stock The People-Hauler 1988 Grand Wagoneer \| SUV \| 4WD \| AMC 360 \| 3-Speed Auto \| All Stock The Dump Runner 1982 Pickup \| Regular Cab \| 2WD \| 22R \| 5-Speed Stick \| Custom Exhaust FER SALE! http://www.yotatech.com/f108/1982-sh.../#post51229916

03-22-2008, 02:11 PM	#60 (permalink)
yotasavg Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chico Republic, NOR*CAL Posts: 1,625	oh come on.........just use a 12" body lift! __________________ -Andrew 94 4Runner 3.0 Auto. I got mods Now Back in Action!

03-22-2008, 02:57 PM	#61 (permalink)
4banginRunner Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: With all the Ho Butts in Mount Carmel, PA Posts: 1,706	so how are you going to clear the motor? __________________ 87 Toyota 4Runner 22RE--5spd swap (W56)--4.56s--BJ spacers--Pro Comp Stage II 4" bracket lift--63" Chevys w/2" blocks--40 series--late style steering box swap--BudBuilt Dual Case X-member--V6 calipers--32s--MC rear bumper--SAS parts collecting time... *79 Toyota Longbed 4x4* Frame-off Resto time. *04 GMC Sierra 1500* the DD

03-22-2008, 05:39 PM	#62 (permalink)
slacker Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: BC Canada Posts: 2,114	ok .. so took a " step back" today , and had a look at "things" remove a bunch of "extra accessories" I wont be using .. I went over to a buddies place , and had a look at his /83 .. and did some measuring (I dont have a complete truck) I found basically the engines are the same length , but the 3.4 is wider , and taller . so I did some more "mocking up" and I think I have it now .. so with the crossover on the passenger side .. it actually hits the frame .. it also would interfere with the slave cylinder , and clutch fork , so It MUST be modified . using the crossover pipe means , I cant use a rad . ORS wants $370.00 + a core charge on the flanges for a crossover pipe .. Downey wants $395.00 for a set of chrome headers . I have a feeling I'm going with the Downey headers . ?? ok ... so .. now with the crossover removed and the a/c compresser .. I can now get the engine where it should be , or where I want it . >>> the stick indicates the firewall <<< >>> the stick indicates the hood line <<< and finally .... fan and rad .. I still have a bit of room at the back , so I will move it back a little further .. + I know a guy at a fiberglass shop ( ) that can build a custom hood .. and NO BODY LIFT REQUIRED . I think I will be using the original upper mounts , and build some lowers .. not sure on the isolator yet .. also at this height .. there seems to be lots of clearance on the oil pan .. I'm using the stock "push/pull steering" .. but if I were to go to crossover , I would need to change out the oil pan for sure .. back to work ! __________________ 86 4x4 , fiberglass bed , 1/2 doors , hood ... more to come . 84 2WD "hotrod" Intercooled 7MGTE 83 Trekker SR5 CURRENT BUILD My home page MY PAGE 2WD fourm I frequent NEW Trekker forum

03-22-2008, 09:32 PM	#63 (permalink)
Island_Yota Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Vancouver Island, B.C. Posts: 672	Maybe custom intake manifold instead of a custom hood? A bulge hood would be interesting on a first gen, Il bet it will look good though.

03-22-2008, 09:49 PM	#64 (permalink)
rowdy235 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Sweet Home, OR Posts: 1,561	just personal preference but i'd try anything before a custom hood. I just would want to keep it stock looking. Maybe a custom intake like I.Y. suggested, plus a 1-2" BL __________________ The Daily Driver: 1998 Tacoma \| Regular Cab \| 4WD \| 2.7L \| 5-Speed Stick \| Mostly Stock The People-Hauler 1988 Grand Wagoneer \| SUV \| 4WD \| AMC 360 \| 3-Speed Auto \| All Stock The Dump Runner 1982 Pickup \| Regular Cab \| 2WD \| 22R \| 5-Speed Stick \| Custom Exhaust FER SALE! http://www.yotatech.com/f108/1982-sh.../#post51229916 Last edited by rowdy235; 03-22-2008 at 09:51 PM.

03-22-2008, 10:15 PM	#65 (permalink)
ulfr Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Iceland, Seltjarnarnes Posts: 79	Nice work. But one thing I don't get, why are you so afraid of a body lift, yet no prob with the push-pull steering? I'd rather be afraid of the steering mechanism rather than the body lift. __________________ Sinc, Ulfr. Rigs: Undanfari I, 38" Mudder, 3VZ-E. 3" lift Undanfari II, 38" Mudder / 44" DC/FC, 1KZ-T. 6" lift.

03-23-2008, 09:40 AM	#67 (permalink)
ocdropzone Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR Posts: 4,705	Extend your front cowl a few inches, make your own High Rise-longer front fenders , kill the fan clutch and go with dual electric fans.... Kill the track bar....random thoughts __________________ ~Robb '81 Trekker The B4Runner Build TREKKER Forum Mini FAQ/Misc Ideas Thread TRY THESE SEARCH LINKS GOOGLE FOR TOYOTA WEBSITES LINK TO ONLINE FACTORY SERVICE MANUALS Drive a real 1st Gen Wheel Responsibly, Don't Screw It Up for Others

03-23-2008, 05:16 PM	#71 (permalink)
slacker Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: BC Canada Posts: 2,114	you know me .... post whore . __________________ 86 4x4 , fiberglass bed , 1/2 doors , hood ... more to come . 84 2WD "hotrod" Intercooled 7MGTE 83 Trekker SR5 CURRENT BUILD My home page MY PAGE 2WD fourm I frequent NEW Trekker forum

03-23-2008, 06:10 PM	#73 (permalink)
slacker Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: BC Canada Posts: 2,114	oh yeah .. __________________ 86 4x4 , fiberglass bed , 1/2 doors , hood ... more to come . 84 2WD "hotrod" Intercooled 7MGTE 83 Trekker SR5 CURRENT BUILD My home page MY PAGE 2WD fourm I frequent NEW Trekker forum

04-02-2008, 05:57 PM	#74 (permalink)
slacker Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: BC Canada Posts: 2,114	so .... wee ... progress today . cut a couple of pieces off .. also the brake line mounts . ready to go ... . __________________ 86 4x4 , fiberglass bed , 1/2 doors , hood ... more to come . 84 2WD "hotrod" Intercooled 7MGTE 83 Trekker SR5 CURRENT BUILD My home page MY PAGE 2WD fourm I frequent NEW Trekker forum

04-02-2008, 07:28 PM	#75 (permalink)
phildelfino Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 553	I need more,,, __________________ 1988 4 Runner w/225,XXX miles, 3.slow V6. A/T. 4.10s?-(G292 code) and power everything else that still works, except someone broke off my electric antenna. 1.25" BL. Used Marlin Crawler Rear Bumper, 33 x 12.50 x 15 on Steel Chromies w 3.5" BS. Has new shocks, leafs. Soon; Trail Gear Sliders, ZUK brackets & coils, rear shock brackets & flip kit, Wish List; Rear lockrite, 529's, sliders (got them for $100.oo, new in box), 5 speed swap http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3171939

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