Noobie Needs Help

Ryan · 07-28-2008, 04:17 PM

I bought a 86 IFS 4Runner. The front control arm bushing are so shot to heck that the local shop will not do a front end alignment until I replace them. Does anyone know where I can find some bushing? I was hoping to find the stiffest ones available like polyurethane or something if it is available so I do not have to buy factory ones. Or if someone knows where to find some affordable after market control arms with bushing that are not too much $$ then that would be great too.

I am a noob to the site and have no idea where to get started. All I know is that I want to get back on the trails ASAP. Thank you everyone for your help. Please someone PM where I can get these bushings. Thanks again!

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Ryan · 07-28-2008, 05:19 PM

All these views and not one suggestion? Oh well. I have a few leads and wondering which bushing is the better and stiffer one between the two to use: Polygraphite and Polyurethane

Here are the Polygraphite Ones for sale for $65.00
http://www.p-s-t.com/showproduct.asp...iliateid=10050
Here are the Polyurethane Ones for sale for $38.95
http://www.suspensionconnection.com/...n/18-204T.html

I have never heard of this Polygraphite material and need to know if this is better than the common Polyurethane bushings or not. Thanks everyone for your help.

89dlx · 07-28-2008, 05:32 PM

http://www.energysuspension.com/pages/toyt1.html

(Make sure you read the footnotes before you order something)

Ryan · 07-29-2008, 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 89dlx

http://www.energysuspension.com/pages/toyt1.html

(Make sure you read the footnotes before you order something)

Are these just part numbers?

89dlx · 07-29-2008, 03:50 AM

Yes, they are part numbers. I believe you need part numbers 8.3104 (upper bushings) and 8.3105 (lower bushings). You can do a search on google for "energy suspension 8.3104". You'll come up with a couple of places online to order them.
I went to my local performance/speed shop with part numbers off of the ES website and had them order the parts. I got the parts the next day. I didn't want to order the parts online because I didn't know any of the companies listed, so I spent my money locally.

Ryan · 07-30-2008, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 89dlx

Yes, they are part numbers. I believe you need part numbers 8.3104 (upper bushings) and 8.3105 (lower bushings). You can do a search on google for "energy suspension 8.3104". You'll come up with a couple of places online to order them.
I went to my local performance/speed shop with part numbers off of the ES website and had them order the parts. I got the parts the next day. I didn't want to order the parts online because I didn't know any of the companies listed, so I spent my money locally.

Thats great info and I really appreciate it bud. I have bought polyurethane bushings from them before for Honda related builds over the years. I am still looking for a good company that I might be able to just buy control arms from. I have seen these awesome Billet Control Arms offered by www.iconvehicledynamics.com but they do not make them for my 86 4Runner.

And I have seen this full front end suspension kit with longer axles and 2" wider control arms offered by www.downeyoff-road.com but I just can not justify paying $2562.00 for something like this.

So does anyone know where to get some sweet billet or any nice after market control arms for the first generation 4Runner's?

Ryan · 08-25-2008, 01:36 AM

I still have not found affordable performance after market IFS components. So I have decided to replace most of it with OEM parts until I can get something better. The good news is that I have received the Energy Suspension Polygraphite upper control arm bushings and the lowers are on the way. I also ordered new inner and outer tie rods, and tie rod sleeves. Along with these parts I ordered all upper and lower ball joints, pitman arm, idle arm, all four bump stops, and drop stops. All these parts should be here in the next day or two. I have also ordered new 33" Tires. Today I went out and paid $900 for a new air compressor and air tools, plus a bunch of other related tool goodies for all this. I am sure I will break even doing the work myself+tools, considering what a shop will charge to do all the work in labor. The only thing I have left to figure out is what 4" lift suspension I will use for the front since these ones are well ready to be replaced. Any one have any recommendations for the front 4" lift shocks?

Ron Helmuth · 09-12-2008, 10:07 PM

following along Ryan -you seem like someone who sets his mind to something and gets it done.Nice to see a guy answer his own questions wish more of us could be of some help.

Sorry I don't know the 1st gens. just a little about 2nds and more about 3rds. good luck with bike sale

glad to give you a bump on both

Jrod · 09-14-2008, 09:52 PM

Try DaveZ Off Road Performance

Ask for Dave or John for sales or just check out the site.

http://www.davezoffroadperformance.com/contact.html

Cheers!
J-Rod

(530) 622-2148
4603 Enterprise Ct
Diamond Springs, CA 95619

Ryan · 09-21-2008, 02:14 AM

Thanks guys. I actually did all the work myself and I need to post up some picks. I sand blasted every part and air sprayed every parts to a perfect finish. I also replaces just about every moving part and bushing on the truck now. I had the whole truck torn down to bolts and washer for just over a month and now it is all done. I am just waiting for my custom hydraulic bump stop to show up then I can hit the trails again. I have replaced everything, even all the tie rods, ball joints, and even all new brakes and tires etc. Pics coming soon

07-28-2008, 05:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ryan Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 119	All these views and not one suggestion? Oh well. I have a few leads and wondering which bushing is the better and stiffer one between the two to use: Polygraphite and Polyurethane Here are the Polygraphite Ones for sale for $65.00 http://www.p-s-t.com/showproduct.asp...iliateid=10050 Here are the Polyurethane Ones for sale for $38.95 http://www.suspensionconnection.com/...n/18-204T.html I have never heard of this Polygraphite material and need to know if this is better than the common Polyurethane bushings or not. Thanks everyone for your help. Last edited by Ryan; 07-28-2008 at 05:25 PM. Reason: Forgot to ad the links for everyone to view.

08-25-2008, 01:36 AM	#7 (permalink)
Ryan Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 119	I still have not found affordable performance after market IFS components. So I have decided to replace most of it with OEM parts until I can get something better. The good news is that I have received the Energy Suspension Polygraphite upper control arm bushings and the lowers are on the way. I also ordered new inner and outer tie rods, and tie rod sleeves. Along with these parts I ordered all upper and lower ball joints, pitman arm, idle arm, all four bump stops, and drop stops. All these parts should be here in the next day or two. I have also ordered new 33" Tires. Today I went out and paid $900 for a new air compressor and air tools, plus a bunch of other related tool goodies for all this. I am sure I will break even doing the work myself+tools, considering what a shop will charge to do all the work in labor. The only thing I have left to figure out is what 4" lift suspension I will use for the front since these ones are well ready to be replaced. Any one have any recommendations for the front 4" lift shocks? __________________ 1986 4Runner SR5, Stock 22RE w/5speed, Rear Detroit Locker, Front LSD, 4:88 Gears, 4" Lift, New Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ 33X12.50X15 Tires on the way. Mtn Bike For Sale: http://www.yotatech.com/f110/cannond.../#post50888473

09-12-2008, 10:07 PM	#8 (permalink)
Ron Helmuth Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Denver metro area-CO Posts: 1,339	following along Ryan -you seem like someone who sets his mind to something and gets it done.Nice to see a guy answer his own questions wish more of us could be of some help. Sorry I don't know the 1st gens. just a little about 2nds and more about 3rds. good luck with bike sale glad to give you a bump on both __________________ 99 4Runner SR5 4wd 3.4/5 spd- Fact. Rr. Locker/Diff Breather Ext. Old Man Emu lift springs- 881 fronts/890 rears O/M/E shocks- N91s fr./N86 rr. All Pro Off Road welded sliders-prevent body damage! ARB"Taco"bumper/Gamiviti clear lenses/Hella 500s Redline Tuning hood struts/Bushwacker Extend a Fenders all my photos are over on Facebook now-I gave up on photo hosting sorry.... http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...5&l=5795132731

09-14-2008, 09:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
Jrod Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Shingle Springs Posts: 12	Try DaveZ Off Road Performance Ask for Dave or John for sales or just check out the site. http://www.davezoffroadperformance.com/contact.html Cheers! J-Rod (530) 622-2148 4603 Enterprise Ct Diamond Springs, CA 95619 __________________ HooKed oN CrawLiN!

09-21-2008, 02:14 AM	#10 (permalink)
Ryan Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 119	Thanks guys. I actually did all the work myself and I need to post up some picks. I sand blasted every part and air sprayed every parts to a perfect finish. I also replaces just about every moving part and bushing on the truck now. I had the whole truck torn down to bolts and washer for just over a month and now it is all done. I am just waiting for my custom hydraulic bump stop to show up then I can hit the trails again. I have replaced everything, even all the tie rods, ball joints, and even all new brakes and tires etc. Pics coming soon __________________ 1986 4Runner SR5, Stock 22RE w/5speed, Rear Detroit Locker, Front LSD, 4:88 Gears, 4" Lift, New Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ 33X12.50X15 Tires on the way. Mtn Bike For Sale: http://www.yotatech.com/f110/cannond.../#post50888473

07-28-2008, 05:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
89dlx Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Branford, CT. Posts: 932	http://www.energysuspension.com/pages/toyt1.html (Make sure you read the footnotes before you order something)

07-29-2008, 03:50 AM	#5 (permalink)
89dlx Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Branford, CT. Posts: 932	Yes, they are part numbers. I believe you need part numbers 8.3104 (upper bushings) and 8.3105 (lower bushings). You can do a search on google for "energy suspension 8.3104". You'll come up with a couple of places online to order them. I went to my local performance/speed shop with part numbers off of the ES website and had them order the parts. I got the parts the next day. I didn't want to order the parts online because I didn't know any of the companies listed, so I spent my money locally.

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