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Old 09-11-2008, 09:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Tires good in snow?

I need to replace the rubber on my 93 4runner. Do a lot of driving in the snow but dont really see the need/want to spend the cash for snow tires as im 4x4. So what cheap tires will work well in snow and still do decently off road? also im running 31's right now and getting amazing gas mileage for an old runner(about 20), so would a switch to 32 or 33 by 10.5's effect that a bunch?
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im running 31's right now and getting amazing gas mileage for an old runner(about 20), so would a switch to 32 or 33 by 10.5's effect that a bunch?
yes, anytime you increase your rolling diameter it will affect it
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Anyone run BFG AT's in the snow? I have 33x12.50 BFG muds right now and they are horrible in the snow, I was thinking of getting some 33x10.50's and was wondering about the BFG AT's or anyonther times for that matter.
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I have these, they're wearing kind of fast it seams. The grip is alright, but I kind of expected better. They're the only tires I've ever driven with on the 4Runner, and only in a 31x10.5- but I expected better never-the-less.
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Anyone run BFG AT's in the snow? I have 33x12.50 BFG muds right now and they are horrible in the snow, I was thinking of getting some 33x10.50's and was wondering about the BFG AT's or anyonther times for that matter.
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i ran some 285/75/17 BFG A/T's on my fullsize chevy and they worked really well and i pulled a bunch of people out with them. i even pulled a car up hill while pushing snow with my front bumper!! but i had alittle more weight to the tire than you do so i cant tell you for sure it will translate directly but i had good luck with them.

I actually run TSL's that have been siped on my toy right now and it is a littyle sketchy on ice but loves the loose snow. But i dont know of a tire that is 39.5x15 that would grip the ice on a toyota!

I am probably the only obne who has driven snow and ice in the last week huh?

haha gotta love glaciers!!
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I ran these tires because, living in Vancouver, I'd read they were great in wet conditions. However, they were the same tires I kept on my vehicle when I headed out to Alberta for a winter season on the rigs and I didn't think they were that great on the snow.

Nokian does make a kick-ass snow tire though called the Hako-somethingorother.
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bfg A/T KO awesome tires
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Anyone run BFG AT's in the snow? I have 33x12.50 BFG muds right now and they are horrible in the snow, I was thinking of getting some 33x10.50's and was wondering about the BFG AT's or anyonther times for that matter.
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I really liked the way my 33x10.50 BFG AT/KOs worked in the snow:

http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/BFG_AT_KO.shtml
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I bought some cooper atrs because some people in a snow plowing forum seemed to think they were ok. I hope it turns out ok. My old tires were really old, either '89 or '99 and they were dangerous on ice. Snow doesn't last long around here. Cars are constantly packing it down and it becomes some sort of a snow/ice mixture real quick like.

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I ran these tires because, living in Vancouver, I'd read they were great in wet conditions. However, they were the same tires I kept on my vehicle when I headed out to Alberta for a winter season on the rigs and I didn't think they were that great on the snow.

Nokian does make a kick-ass snow tire though called the Hako-somethingorother.

Ok, same opinion exactly (as written above), its good to know that tires can be better, cause they're the only tires I've used on the 4Runner. I just wasn't impressed with them in the snow- thought the tire width was the factor though (31x10.5 R15)/ Wish you could buy a 32x9.5 from the big name brands.
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My advice:
Dueler Revo At.
If you want to run 33's then the only other choice is
BFG AT. 9.5 inches wide.
It snowed more on me in one week than it does at most Colorado Yuppie Resorts in a season. I'll take the cascade cement any powder day over the crowds.
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well if your looking for a great tire in the snow and off-road and for the size your looking for 39".. i would recomend the super swamper i-roks they are the ultimate tire and hook in any conditions.. like them very well buddy runs them on his yota.
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well if your looking for a great tire in the snow and off-road and for the size your looking for 39".. i would recomend the super swamper i-roks they are the ultimate tire and hook in any conditions.. like them very well buddy runs them on his yota.


He says he likes good mileage. All he wants is a tire for snow, not a suspension lift, SAS swap, body lift and re-engineer his entire vehicle.
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i ran some 285/75/17 BFG A/T's on my fullsize chevy and they worked really well and i pulled a bunch of people out with them. i even pulled a car up hill while pushing snow with my front bumper!! but i had alittle more weight to the tire than you do so i cant tell you for sure it will translate directly but i had good luck with them.

Personally I've had the opposite experience with the BFG all-terrains. I've known a couple people who've ran them on full-sizes in the winter and found they get plugged up with snow really quickly Although that could be entirely because the snow we got last winter was very very wet. On my truck I run the Fuzion XTi. Overall, they aren't too bad, I find they function alright in the snow and ice; however, off-road I find that almost anything gets them plugged up with mud and dirt A friend of mine has had good luck with Toyo MT's in the snow, but he said once he hits any ice he slips all over the place.
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Not sure if they're available in bigger sizes but my friend ran some Firestone Winterforce tires on his truck, those literally owned in the snow. I'd highly recommend them, and they're pretty cheap.
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get the green diamond and then sipe em. I runn 33x12.50s and they work pretty well for the money. My 94 22RE runner gets 22MPG avg with my tires. if I get a heavy foot its 20


if you cant tell by my icon i like to snow wheel. in fact I only wheel in snow.. lol

BFG ATs work well too, but spendy - better on ice, not so on wet stuff

Firestone Destination MT's are awesome, but spendy

Goodyear MTR's are pretty good, but spendy


good rule of thumb is if you ever drive in snow deeper than your hubs you want 12.5" wide tires bare minimun, but if you pretty much only drive in snow a few inches deep or less youre fine with 9.5" or 10.5" wide tires



and airing down is the most important thing in the world in snow. 4-8PSI is best, fully inflated will get you nowhere fast.


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According to an article I read in 4 wheeler the wider the tread pattern on the tire the better it does in the snow, because the snow caught in the tread will grab to the snow on the ground. However, I have 32" goodyear MTR's, and I really really hate them in the snow. I have heard a lot of good things about the toyo M/T
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Anyone run BFG AT's in the snow? I have 33x12.50 BFG muds right now and they are horrible in the snow, I was thinking of getting some 33x10.50's and was wondering about the BFG AT's or anyonther times for that matter.
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yes I ran BFG AT's last winter and they where great I will be buying them again when these wear down or the longtrails wear out on the 4runner
they also worked very well mudding and offroading at a local spot.
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I had the toyo m/t on my 82 toy and it did great in snow, even when I drove it through a super deep little snowmobile single track with jumps and stuff. However, I drive a mountain pass to jackson and they do terrible on ice. In fact about a month ago I crashed into the guard rail when I was driving over on a super cold night and hit a patch of ice. Now im trying to find some 16 inch rims to fit some studded hankook dynapro ipike tires that were on my ex girlfriends rwd trailblazer that allowed us to make it to work everyday last winter regardless of 16 inches of snow and icy conditions. They are a stock sized tire but absolutely kill it on one of the most dangerous roads in the u.s.
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i ran some 285/75/17 BFG A/T's on my fullsize chevy and they worked really well and i pulled a bunch of people out with them. i even pulled a car up hill while pushing snow with my front bumper!! but i had alittle more weight to the tire than you do so i cant tell you for sure it will translate directly but i had good luck with them.

I actually run TSL's that have been siped on my toy right now and it is a littyle sketchy on ice but loves the loose snow. But i dont know of a tire that is 39.5x15 that would grip the ice on a toyota!

I am probably the only obne who has driven snow and ice in the last week huh?

haha gotta love glaciers!!
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