NITROGEN in your tires

ozziesironmanoffroad · 11-05-2009, 09:16 PM

i know, i know, hear me out. we just got a nitrogen tank at my work a week or so ago, so when i changed my oil (for free) the other night, i decided to drain the air out of my tires and replace it with nitrogen. so far im noticing a slightly smoother ride, more even tire wear, and get this.. heres the kicker, something i wasnt expecting in a million years: my gas mileage improved. i went from 19-20 highway to 22-24 on the highway! and the best part? i got it all for FREE. sometimes i like working at a oil change/tire shop

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elblako91 · 11-05-2009, 09:25 PM

Hmmmmmm

ozziesironmanoffroad · 11-05-2009, 09:28 PM

maybe the ride quality is me feelin somethin non existant, but the tread wear (as confirmed by the chalk test) and gas mileage are for certain. a guy at work claimed he got an extra 100 miles to a tank in his tundra by going to nitrogen. who knows. *scratches head*. just wanted to put that out there.

elblako91 · 11-05-2009, 09:33 PM

It's not that i don't believe you its just that I want to know the science behind it. Why? lol

olharleyman · 11-05-2009, 09:38 PM

Nitrogen keeps a more consistent and accurate pressure in the tires maybe that's what it is but 100 miles to a tank NOW THAT'S HARD TO BELIEVE

davo247d · 11-05-2009, 09:44 PM

hey not to change the subject but you should post a pic of ur baja bar, but i wanted to try that for a while but how much does it cost ?

ozziesironmanoffroad · 11-05-2009, 09:50 PM

baja bar?
and yeah, its hard to believe, an extra 100 miles to a tank. as i said it didnt happen to me personally, but i am getting 1-3mpg better than i was before.

Gnarly4X · 11-06-2009, 12:39 AM

This subject has been dissected over and over... nitrogen filled tires don't do anything over just plain ol' regular air. 78% of the Earth's atmosphere is nitrogen!!

But.... if it makes you feel good.... it' OK.

gNARLs.

Matt90V6SR5 · 11-06-2009, 12:47 AM

75% ? if that was true the whole planet would have been incinerated when the first caveman struck 2 rocks together to make fire LMAO just kidding,but sounded funny in my head

Matt90V6SR5 · 11-06-2009, 01:21 AM

Nitrogen is an asphixiant,causes displacement of oxygen.Fascinating stuff,to much nitrogen is what causes the bends in deep sea divers if they dont decompress.Can be fatal if released into an enclosed space.But on a liter note I was told when used in tires you dont have to worry about changes in pressure due to temperature changes.

ESQ · 11-06-2009, 11:09 AM

Nitrogen, N2 as present in our atmosphere, is pretty inert stuff....

Gnarly4X · 11-06-2009, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ESQ

Nitrogen, N2 as present in our atmosphere, is pretty inert stuff....

OK, if I fill my tires with "pretty inerts" will it help anything??

gNARLS.

ESQ · 11-06-2009, 11:29 AM

No.

I was responding to the comment above that seemed to think nitrogen was explosive.

Gnarly4X · 11-06-2009, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt90V6SR5

..But on a liter note I was told when used in tires you dont have to worry about changes in pressure due to temperature changes.

The question is... Who "told" you??? Were they "selling" nitrogen??

Since 78% of the earth atmosphere is nitrogen and 21% is oxygen -- which means that "air" is 99% made up of these two elements AND since the thermal conductivity properties of both are identical... I doubt you can effectively measure any difference between air filled or nitrogen filled tires in "changes in pressure due to temperature changes".

Again, that's just my worthless opinion.

gNARLS.

Gnarly4X · 11-06-2009, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ESQ

No.

I was responding to the comment above that seemed to think nitrogen was explosive.

Geezz.. I guess if it were explosive... the first time the caveman discovered fire, he'd been B-B-Q'd!!

gNARLs.

Matt90V6SR5 · 11-06-2009, 04:40 PM

Funny huh,hahaha...seriously though a tire shop in minie-sota told me that 2 yrs ago.That tire pressure is better regulated with nitrogen,but people will say anything to sell a product.Supposed to extend tire life to.

helidriver · 11-08-2009, 05:25 PM

1-3 better mpg after oil change and a reset of poper tire pressure (no matter what they're filled with)..... sounds about right to me...

davo247d · 11-08-2009, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozziesironmanoffroad

baja bar?
and yeah, its hard to believe, an extra 100 miles to a tank. as i said it didnt happen to me personally, but i am getting 1-3mpg better than i was before.

the deal on the front of your truck with the lights on it lol

**waskillywabbit** · 11-08-2009, 05:47 PM

cough cough bull crap cough cough

Flippy02 · 11-08-2009, 08:33 PM

nitrogen is less, susceptible to change pressure as the temperature changes, as in an example in the morning when it's cold the air will be more dense, and pressure will drop in the tire, in later the afternoon, when it's warmer, aire will be less dense, raising the pressure in the tire. an oil change and proper tire pressure through out the day would increase MPG, and 1-2 sounds about right

Gnarly4X · 11-08-2009, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flippy02

nitrogen is less, susceptible to change pressure as the temperature changes, as in an example in the morning when it's cold the air will be more dense, and pressure will drop in the tire, in later the afternoon, when it's warmer, aire will be less dense, raising the pressure in the tire. an oil change and proper tire pressure through out the day would increase MPG, and 1-2 sounds about right

REPEAT....

Since 78% of the earth atmosphere is nitrogen and 21% is oxygen -- which means that "air" is 99% made up of these two elements AND since the thermal conductivity properties of both are identical... I doubt you can effectively measure any difference between air filled or nitrogen filled tires in "changes in pressure due to temperature changes".

gNARLS.

ESQ · 11-08-2009, 09:15 PM

x 10^99

It's pure BS. Plain and simple.

TOYOTA 1 · 11-08-2009, 09:46 PM

what about helium? :l

Gnarly4X · 11-08-2009, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOYOTA 1

what about helium? :l

Yes, but it will make the exhaust pitch REALLY high!!

TOYOTA 1 · 11-08-2009, 09:52 PM

^^haha

11-05-2009, 09:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
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ozziesironmanoffroad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Spring Valley, CA Posts: 5,676	maybe the ride quality is me feelin somethin non existant, but the tread wear (as confirmed by the chalk test) and gas mileage are for certain. a guy at work claimed he got an extra 100 miles to a tank in his tundra by going to nitrogen. who knows. scratches head. just wanted to put that out there. __________________ The 22r series engines are made from the fires of hell, and will fight tooth and nail to not be sent back. 1988 Toyota P/U 4x4 22re, 1200 miles on the rebuild engine builder .268 cam pioneer CD deck 31x10.50x15 BFG A/T BAJA 100W lights on prerunner bumper KC Daylighters 100W rancho rs5000 MUD IS A VALID PAINT JOB! If not living life to the fullest, why live it? my trucks official buildup thread

11-05-2009, 09:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
elblako91 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 299	It's not that i don't believe you its just that I want to know the science behind it. Why? lol __________________ '92 Yota 5 Speed V6 4X4 5,000 ORIGINAL MILES New 32X11.50 all terrains and some Bright lights. :)

11-05-2009, 09:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
olharleyman Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: maryland Posts: 3,291	Nitrogen keeps a more consistent and accurate pressure in the tires maybe that's what it is but 100 miles to a tank NOW THAT'S HARD TO BELIEVE __________________ 1990 4 runner 5 Speed Pro Comp Stage II 4" Lift 6" coils rear Aussie Locker front 5.29's Front And Rear 35 x 12.5 x 15 MT's Micky Thompson Classic II Wheels Super Charged 3.4 on the way 1993 SAS 4runner 22re 5 speed 4" front 5"rear 5.29's 35 x 12.5 BFG KM'S Dick cepek DC 1's 88 stock 4runner 3.0 auto for now 1955 Harley Davidson Springer Stock 1955 Hardtail Frame 4 Speed Kick Start Only 1998 Harley Custom Dresser 107 rwhp 139 ft.lbs.trq.

11-05-2009, 09:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
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ozziesironmanoffroad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Spring Valley, CA Posts: 5,676	baja bar? and yeah, its hard to believe, an extra 100 miles to a tank. as i said it didnt happen to me personally, but i am getting 1-3mpg better than i was before. __________________ The 22r series engines are made from the fires of hell, and will fight tooth and nail to not be sent back. 1988 Toyota P/U 4x4 22re, 1200 miles on the rebuild engine builder .268 cam pioneer CD deck 31x10.50x15 BFG A/T BAJA 100W lights on prerunner bumper KC Daylighters 100W rancho rs5000 MUD IS A VALID PAINT JOB! If not living life to the fullest, why live it? my trucks official buildup thread

11-06-2009, 12:39 AM	#8 (permalink)
Gnarly4X Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Casa Grande, AZ, USA Posts: 335	This subject has been dissected over and over... nitrogen filled tires don't do anything over just plain ol' regular air. 78% of the Earth's atmosphere is nitrogen!! But.... if it makes you feel good.... it' OK. gNARLs. Last edited by Gnarly4X; 11-06-2009 at 11:45 AM.

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Matt90V6SR5 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Firestone,Co. Posts: 302	75% ? if that was true the whole planet would have been incinerated when the first caveman struck 2 rocks together to make fire LMAO just kidding,but sounded funny in my head Last edited by Matt90V6SR5; 11-06-2009 at 12:50 AM.

11-06-2009, 01:21 AM	#10 (permalink)
Matt90V6SR5 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Firestone,Co. Posts: 302	Nitrogen is an asphixiant,causes displacement of oxygen.Fascinating stuff,to much nitrogen is what causes the bends in deep sea divers if they dont decompress.Can be fatal if released into an enclosed space.But on a liter note I was told when used in tires you dont have to worry about changes in pressure due to temperature changes.

11-06-2009, 11:09 AM	#11 (permalink)
ESQ Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: British Columbia Posts: 179	Nitrogen, N2 as present in our atmosphere, is pretty inert stuff.... __________________ My Build Thread The 4Cruiser: 98 4Runner SR5, 5VZ-FE, Sonoran Steel 1.2, BCC custom swing-arm rear armour, full Budbuilts, 285/75R16 Goodyear Duratracs, extended diff breather, airbox deckplate, red LED cluster, console,Wabfab front discos, Warn M8000 winch, Shrockworks full hoop, PIAA 520s and 510s, Stubbs HD-SKO Sliders, External tran cooler, tundra brakes and 5.29s and ARB lockers next

11-06-2009, 11:29 AM	#13 (permalink)
ESQ Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: British Columbia Posts: 179	No. I was responding to the comment above that seemed to think nitrogen was explosive. __________________ My Build Thread The 4Cruiser: 98 4Runner SR5, 5VZ-FE, Sonoran Steel 1.2, BCC custom swing-arm rear armour, full Budbuilts, 285/75R16 Goodyear Duratracs, extended diff breather, airbox deckplate, red LED cluster, console,Wabfab front discos, Warn M8000 winch, Shrockworks full hoop, PIAA 520s and 510s, Stubbs HD-SKO Sliders, External tran cooler, tundra brakes and 5.29s and ARB lockers next

11-06-2009, 04:40 PM	#16 (permalink)
Matt90V6SR5 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Firestone,Co. Posts: 302	Funny huh,hahaha...seriously though a tire shop in minie-sota told me that 2 yrs ago.That tire pressure is better regulated with nitrogen,but people will say anything to sell a product.Supposed to extend tire life to.

11-08-2009, 05:25 PM	#17 (permalink)
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Flippy02 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Santa Clarita, CA Posts: 24	nitrogen is less, susceptible to change pressure as the temperature changes, as in an example in the morning when it's cold the air will be more dense, and pressure will drop in the tire, in later the afternoon, when it's warmer, aire will be less dense, raising the pressure in the tire. an oil change and proper tire pressure through out the day would increase MPG, and 1-2 sounds about right __________________ 2000 Mazda Miata- dedicated toy 1995 4Runner - my stock, toy hauler

11-08-2009, 09:15 PM	#22 (permalink)
ESQ Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: British Columbia Posts: 179	x 10^99 It's pure BS. Plain and simple. __________________ My Build Thread The 4Cruiser: 98 4Runner SR5, 5VZ-FE, Sonoran Steel 1.2, BCC custom swing-arm rear armour, full Budbuilts, 285/75R16 Goodyear Duratracs, extended diff breather, airbox deckplate, red LED cluster, console,Wabfab front discos, Warn M8000 winch, Shrockworks full hoop, PIAA 520s and 510s, Stubbs HD-SKO Sliders, External tran cooler, tundra brakes and 5.29s and ARB lockers next

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