Mud Terrian Tires for my new Runner

Stump1883 · 07-23-2003, 08:51 PM

Hey guys I need to know your experiances with mud tires. I need to get a new set of shoes forthe new Runner, my main concern with the tires is milage, I know almost any mud tire will be good for the wheel'n I do.

So for the pole we are talking about milage more or less. But if you would please drop me some comments here about the milage you have got or expect to get. Thanks in advance.

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prolax13 · 07-23-2003, 09:32 PM

Dunlops are alot cheaper. Thats as far as my knowledge goes.

**4x4Fink** · 07-23-2003, 09:52 PM

BFG all the way...my cousin has the M/T's on his P.U and they look good and most of all there performance is OUT OF THIS WORLD!!

The road noise is high but you will be doing mostly wheeling probably...

My cousin has had those tires for about 20-30k miles and there is some wear on them but still plenty to grip REAL well! They only do a little worse than my A/T's...I mean they definately aren't as good but BFG's tend to last a long, long, long time!!!!!!!

Go for the BFG man!!! :rockband:

***midiwall*** · 07-23-2003, 10:17 PM

I just had a set of Avon MT SXT's installed today at Les Schwab. I started a thread here:

http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.p...threadid=14530

And a straight pic of the tire is here:

http://www.lesschwab.com/tires/light_suv/mt_sxt.html

I won't have a chance to play with them in the dirt until the first weekend in August, but I can't imagine that they're gonna be anything short of fun-tastic.

doink · 07-23-2003, 10:27 PM

currently, i have the pro comp muds, i wouldnt go for them again, they run small, and the tread is wearing pretty fast. i would go with bfg my .02

MNBOY · 07-24-2003, 06:13 AM

I have the new BFG MT km's and really like them. A lot less road noise than the old BFG MTs. My mileage seems to be better than almost everyone on this forum, so I'm not sure what I'm doing right but I hope it stays that way. The difference on my truck between running 235/70/15 light truck tires and the 31x10.5 BFGs is about 6 or 7 MPG, not taking into account the larger tire size. If you account for the tire size to correct my odometer, I'm guessing I drop about 3 or 4 MPG from the wider tire and more aggressive tread. I have no complaints on their performance off road in any conditions.

Gbost · 07-24-2003, 09:18 AM

I have been happy with my bfg mt km's. I have the 33x12.50's on my taco and they are wearing well. I drive 42 miles one way to work on the highway and they are quite unless I am hauling something but even then they are not very noisy. I've got about 25k miles and expect to get atleast that much more out of them. They are a little slick on wet pavement and that took some getting used to. I will by them again when the time comes.

Greg

NJ · 07-24-2003, 07:15 PM

My BFG Mud (not KM's I don’t think they were out yet) only lasted 13,500 Miles. They are quite smooth now and desperately in need of changing. I even Sipied what was left of the lugs about a month ago to give them a little more traction on wet asphalt.

The only good thing about worn out Mudders is that they don't fling **it all over your vehicle when you get stuck in the sticky stuff, and have to winch your way out.

Then again if they were in good condition I probably would not have had to winch out :pat:

Anyone have an online source for BFG's at a good price. I think this time I will go with AT's seeing how quickly the Mud wore out on me... Looking for 265 75 R16.

Thanx

FUGGRWE · 07-24-2003, 07:50 PM

I'm gonna go with BFG's or Goodyear. Both of which I have good experiences with. I had Dunlop Radial Rovers on my Explorer and they were really crappy. They only lasted a year. I know you are looking at a different tread, but I still will never buy any Dunlops ever again.

dragr1 · 07-24-2003, 08:18 PM

Here's my $.02. I run the Bridgestone Dueler MT"'s (32x11.5x15) on my '99 4Runner. After 12k miles they show very little wear, they'll go at least 50k. I have had Bridgestone Dueler MT's on my Z-71 also, in a 285 size. I got 70k miles out of them. Currently I have Mud Kings in a 285 on the Z-71 and they are worn out with 85k miles, yes that is correct 85k miles. They don't handle good for the first 5k miles, but after that they are great offroad and not real noisy onroad. I'll probably get another set of Mud Kings for it b/c in 285 they are $596, mounted, balanced, tax included. Oh yeah, the Z-71 sees plenty of abuse, it goes offroad everyday, pulls heavy trailers frequently and goes about 60k miles a year, so the tires I run on it are well tested.

kyle_22r · 07-24-2003, 08:28 PM

i heard cavalier mud kings are pretty good performing and long lasting, price doesn't seem too bad

i currently have buckshot mudder radials on my truck and they work great. they're a little noisy though

NCSU-4runner · 07-24-2003, 09:24 PM

ive got about 2k miles on my dunlops and they show almost no sign of wear yet. id challenge a set of BFGs in the mudd anyday. they are also roughly 50 bucks a tire cheaper, so you have to calculate that into your "mileage" debate. thats like buy 2 get 1 free

a set of 4 will cost you ~390 instead of over ~ 600! with the bfgs you pay extra for the name cause they have good marketing strategy

when we find some mudd at Uwharrie you'll see how well they work

Mytyota · 07-24-2003, 09:40 PM

watch out for these guys bought a set of swampers with warranty, sliced a tire on a rockgot a little mud inside the tire> Took it back to schwab they broke the tire down then told me because ti had been used offroadit was not under warranty.

Stump1883 · 07-25-2003, 12:13 PM

Thanks guys, the votes are splt 50 50 b/w the BFGs and the MT/Rs yet none of the Goodyear crew spoke up. Oh well guess that will teach me to try a poll, everyone I have ever posted has been split almost down the middle. But I will have to shop around and see what I can get out of my old BFG AT's with the wheels, if I can get enough I might be able to go hih $$$ but not until I seethe $$$ from the sale.

NCSU I can't wait to see your rig perfom, I'll be spotting and watching with the camera so make sure not to get stuck. Nah but serisouly I asked off from work today and I'm getting anxious about the trip already. I'll let you know ASAP if I'm ging to need a ride or not.

L33T35T 4Runner · 07-25-2003, 12:18 PM

goodyear all the way

Sac State · 07-25-2003, 12:28 PM

NCSU-Runner: Are your Dunlop Mud Runner's loud on the pavement/highway? What about rain/wet stability? Thanks

dragr1 · 07-25-2003, 07:36 PM

Oh yeah, I also briefly owned some Goodyear MTR's, but I sold them right after I got them b/c they are terrible in the mud. They may good in the rocks, I don't know that for sure b/c there are no rocks in Central Alabama, but they are not good in the mud.

keisur · 07-26-2003, 07:22 AM

BFG's, because I run them.

**4x4Fink** · 07-26-2003, 08:15 AM

BFG's ALL THE WAY!!

I have three sets of them(3 vehicle's all with BFG's!)

I have one Radial All Terrain set (on my Runner), one BFG M/T on my Silverado, and one A/T KO set on my Dad's 2003 Ram. AWESOME TIRES!!!

They have NEVER let me down! And those M/T's!!!

NOTHING STOPS THEM!!! Not even a 3 1/2" Decking Screw...I found it jabbed into the sidewall but it only went in a little because of the INCREDIBLE sidewall protection these things have on them!!!

BFG M/T's all the way!

Well there are my .02!

NCSU-4runner · 07-26-2003, 11:10 AM

Quote:

NCSU-Runner: Are your Dunlop Mud Runner's loud on the pavement/highway? What about rain/wet stability? Thanks

exact same in every respect as the BFGs except the PRICE. with the windows up and quiet radio you cant hear them at all, even at highway speeds. they might be a little softer compound and therefore wear faster but after almost 3k miles i cant tell almost any wear at all. only time will tell . . . as far as wet handing, they are mud tires, you cant expect alot. the 3.0 doesnt have enough power to worry about breaking them loose under acceleration (but you wait till the I6 goes in

) but you do have to be careful with the brakes or you might get a little loose ( i wish i had ABS :pat: ) .

NCSU-4runner · 07-26-2003, 11:36 AM

i just posted some updated pics if you wanna see the tread look at the second one

http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.p...threadid=14692

Sac State · 07-26-2003, 04:36 PM

Nice! You must have been at the coast when those pics were taken?

NCSU-4runner · 07-26-2003, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Nice! You must have been at the coast when those pics were taken?

yea i was visiting my family in charleston SC

AznSky · 09-21-2003, 07:06 AM

I think you really need to take into concideration how much wheelin you do. Because your mileage greatly depends on that. If you wheel a lot, then of course your tread will detiorate a lot faster than if you just do city and highway driving mostly.

I hear everybody saying that the bfg a/t's lasting for at least 40k, but after a few wheelin trips, my bfg a/t's don't look like they'll last for 40k, I hope they do, but I'm not sure

So I think you should think about that too and all the responses you get

Yoter · 09-21-2003, 07:49 AM

I have Wild Country TXRs but also may be in the market to get better tires for mud purposes. My TXRs hold up in the dirt just fine but I have yet to play in the mud due to the dry summer weve had. Anyone have an opinion on TXRs?

View Poll Results: Which Mud Tire gette best milage from what you know or have heard?
Goodyear MT/Rs	24	36.36%
BFGoodrich MTs	27	40.91%
Dunlop Mud Rovers	3	4.55%
Bridgestone Dueler MTs	12	18.18%
Voters: 66. You may not vote on this poll

07-23-2003, 09:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
prolax13 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 602	Dunlops are alot cheaper. Thats as far as my knowledge goes. __________________ 2000 4Runner Ltd. Performance: Funtional Borla Dual Exhaust, Deck-Plate Mod... Suspension: SAW Coilovers, Downey 3.5" HD Springs, OME 881 Shocks... Exterior: None (grill guard removed) Wheels/Tires: Mickey Thompson Classic II 16x8, BFGoodwrench 285/75/16 A/T KOs...

07-23-2003, 09:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
4x4Fink Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Centerton, AR Posts: 5,952	BFG all the way...my cousin has the M/T's on his P.U and they look good and most of all there performance is OUT OF THIS WORLD!! The road noise is high but you will be doing mostly wheeling probably... My cousin has had those tires for about 20-30k miles and there is some wear on them but still plenty to grip REAL well! They only do a little worse than my A/T's...I mean they definately aren't as good but BFG's tend to last a long, long, long time!!!!!!! Go for the BFG man!!! :rockband: __________________ 1985 4Runner 22RE 4WD "Ratchet" 2007 Tacoma Double Cab SB 4x4 V6 TRD Sport AR-TTORA "My work number is 9-1-1."

07-23-2003, 10:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
*midiwall* Sponsoring Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Seattleish, WA Posts: 9,078	I just had a set of Avon MT SXT's installed today at Les Schwab. I started a thread here: http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.p...threadid=14530 And a straight pic of the tire is here: http://www.lesschwab.com/tires/light_suv/mt_sxt.html I won't have a chance to play with them in the dirt until the first weekend in August, but I can't imagine that they're gonna be anything short of fun-tastic. __________________ ~ Mark '96 4Runner Limited S/C MI - 370cc injectors, Air! horns, Airaid MIT, ATS A-arms, 285/75/R16 BFG MTs, Bored TB, Brembo slotted, Cobra 75 WXST, Deckplate, Downey headers, Hayden cooler, IPT valve body, Level 10 torque convertor, Meanstreak exhaust, OME/OME rears, On-board PC (XM, Nav, WiFi, etc), Port 'n Polish, Remote Start, SAW fronts, Hilux console, SMT-5, Stubb's sliders, Supra MAF, TJM-17, 2.0" pulley, Viair 450c, Walbro 190, Weasy2k cams

07-23-2003, 10:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
doink Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Atl. Georgia Posts: 3,078	currently, i have the pro comp muds, i wouldnt go for them again, they run small, and the tread is wearing pretty fast. i would go with bfg my .02 __________________ -m. buy my bands record on iTunes LISTEN TO MY BAND PLEASE

07-24-2003, 06:13 AM	#6 (permalink)
MNBOY Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 786	I have the new BFG MT km's and really like them. A lot less road noise than the old BFG MTs. My mileage seems to be better than almost everyone on this forum, so I'm not sure what I'm doing right but I hope it stays that way. The difference on my truck between running 235/70/15 light truck tires and the 31x10.5 BFGs is about 6 or 7 MPG, not taking into account the larger tire size. If you account for the tire size to correct my odometer, I'm guessing I drop about 3 or 4 MPG from the wider tire and more aggressive tread. I have no complaints on their performance off road in any conditions. __________________ ____________________ Greg 93 4x4 pickup

07-24-2003, 09:18 AM	#7 (permalink)
Gbost Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Puyallup, WA. Posts: 300	I have been happy with my bfg mt km's. I have the 33x12.50's on my taco and they are wearing well. I drive 42 miles one way to work on the highway and they are quite unless I am hauling something but even then they are not very noisy. I've got about 25k miles and expect to get atleast that much more out of them. They are a little slick on wet pavement and that took some getting used to. I will by them again when the time comes. Greg

07-24-2003, 07:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
NJ Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Caribbean Posts: 77	My BFG Mud (not KM's I don’t think they were out yet) only lasted 13,500 Miles. They are quite smooth now and desperately in need of changing. I even Sipied what was left of the lugs about a month ago to give them a little more traction on wet asphalt. The only good thing about worn out Mudders is that they don't fling *it all over your vehicle when you get stuck in the sticky stuff, and have to winch your way out. Then again if they were in good condition I probably would not have had to winch out :pat: Anyone have an online source for BFG's at a good price. I think this time I will go with AT's seeing how quickly the Mud wore out on me... Looking for 265 75 R16. Thanx __________________ 1996 Hilux Surf KZN185 3.0L 1KZ-TE Turbo Diesel, 5-Speed* BFG AT's 265 70R16, SAW's, 2.5 Cornfed & OME N86C shocks, Sway Bars Removed, Rear Diffbreather, Amsoil. ARB Prado Bar/Warn XD9000, Optima Batteries, Recaro Seats, Husky Liners, Whip Antenna, Hi-Lift Jack. Webshots Pictures

07-24-2003, 07:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
FUGGRWE Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: South Florida Posts: 1,252	I'm gonna go with BFG's or Goodyear. Both of which I have good experiences with. I had Dunlop Radial Rovers on my Explorer and they were really crappy. They only lasted a year. I know you are looking at a different tread, but I still will never buy any Dunlops ever again. __________________ 2006 Tacoma Double Cab 4x4 I do not like green eggs and ham. I do not like them, Sam I am.

07-24-2003, 08:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
dragr1 Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Auburn, AL Posts: 3,627	Here's my $.02. I run the Bridgestone Dueler MT"'s (32x11.5x15) on my '99 4Runner. After 12k miles they show very little wear, they'll go at least 50k. I have had Bridgestone Dueler MT's on my Z-71 also, in a 285 size. I got 70k miles out of them. Currently I have Mud Kings in a 285 on the Z-71 and they are worn out with 85k miles, yes that is correct 85k miles. They don't handle good for the first 5k miles, but after that they are great offroad and not real noisy onroad. I'll probably get another set of Mud Kings for it b/c in 285 they are $596, mounted, balanced, tax included. Oh yeah, the Z-71 sees plenty of abuse, it goes offroad everyday, pulls heavy trailers frequently and goes about 60k miles a year, so the tires I run on it are well tested. __________________ 1985 4Runner Dual e-lockers, dual cases, yada yada 1996 4runner, lifted, 2 lockers, 315 KM2's, IFS and more '00 Suburban 2500 4x4 '07 Tacoma Double Cab 4wd TRD '02 Lexus IS300 1991 Tiffin Allegro 31' Class A

07-24-2003, 08:28 PM	#11 (permalink)
kyle_22r Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Lacey, WA Posts: 3,992	i heard cavalier mud kings are pretty good performing and long lasting, price doesn't seem too bad i currently have buckshot mudder radials on my truck and they work great. they're a little noisy though __________________ 1998 tacoma, 3RZ-FE, 5 speed, 30x9.5R15 M/Ts past toys: 1984 4x2 1979 4x4 1991 4x4

07-24-2003, 09:24 PM	#12 (permalink)
NCSU-4runner Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Raleigh NC Posts: 1,597	ive got about 2k miles on my dunlops and they show almost no sign of wear yet. id challenge a set of BFGs in the mudd anyday. they are also roughly 50 bucks a tire cheaper, so you have to calculate that into your "mileage" debate. thats like buy 2 get 1 free a set of 4 will cost you ~390 instead of over ~ 600! with the bfgs you pay extra for the name cause they have good marketing strategy when we find some mudd at Uwharrie you'll see how well they work __________________ Jeremy, 94 4Runner Turbo Leaf Spring SAS front - Coilover 4link rear (starts December) / Supra Swap My Truck is featured on Supracharged.com - Home of the original Supra swap and Forum One of two things will happen, I will die, or the truck will be finished. I'm not sure which will be first. Last edited by NCSU-4runner; 07-24-2003 at 09:28 PM.

07-24-2003, 09:40 PM	#13 (permalink)
Mytyota Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Tacoma Wa. Posts: 141	les schwab watch out for these guys bought a set of swampers with warranty, sliced a tire on a rockgot a little mud inside the tire> Took it back to schwab they broke the tire down then told me because ti had been used offroadit was not under warranty. __________________ Larry 86 4runner given to me by a member of this board. it was a stolen recovery. It's done! 85 shortbed frame chevy springs in rear , 44044's up front, 15" travel shocks, custom rear shock mounts, ford mounts up front ,3"body lift, 3"drivetrain lift. 36" tsl sx welded in the rear and easy locker up front cutsom bumpers and sliders

07-25-2003, 12:13 PM	#14 (permalink)
Stump1883 Contributing Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: High Point NC Posts: 2,150	Thanks guys, the votes are splt 50 50 b/w the BFGs and the MT/Rs yet none of the Goodyear crew spoke up. Oh well guess that will teach me to try a poll, everyone I have ever posted has been split almost down the middle. But I will have to shop around and see what I can get out of my old BFG AT's with the wheels, if I can get enough I might be able to go hih $$$ but not until I seethe $$$ from the sale. NCSU I can't wait to see your rig perfom, I'll be spotting and watching with the camera so make sure not to get stuck. Nah but serisouly I asked off from work today and I'm getting anxious about the trip already. I'll let you know ASAP if I'm ging to need a ride or not. __________________ 97' 4Runner LTD -With a few toys

07-25-2003, 12:18 PM	#15 (permalink)
L33T35T 4Runner Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Fountain Valley, CA (so cali) Posts: 2,005	goodyear all the way __________________ 95 4Runner SR5 3.0l. V6 2 wheel drive baby! 31" Bridgeston Dueler A/T Revos. Downey 1.5 Coils. Doetsch MV-12 Shocks. Brembo Rotors. Performance Friction Pads. Pioneer head unit with 1 12" Pioneer woofer. XM Radio. RB Headlight Harness w/ Sylvania SilverStars New to the family: 85 4Runner 22RE, 4x4, 5 spd, SFA. 31" BFG All Terrain T/A KOs, genuine Walmart seat covers, "Dual" stereo, XM Radio, RB Headlight Harness w/ Sylvania SilverStars. Onboard air. Has been seafoamed to hell

07-26-2003, 07:22 AM	#18 (permalink)
keisur Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 5,376	BFG's, because I run them. __________________ Front: 4.88's w/ ARB Locker Rear: 4.88's w/ ARB Locker Lift: Suspension - F: Sway-A-Way Coilovers; R: OME Coils/Shocks Body - 2" HDPE Pucks w/ higher strength bolts Recovery: TJM T15 Bull Bumper w/ Warn M8000 Winch Lighting: Lightforce Striker 170's Multimedia: Kenwood DNX5120 DVD/GPS/USB/iPod/SAT Sound: Focal 165A1 Component Front w/ Focal 130CA1 Rear Infiniti Kappa Perfect 10.1 Sub 500W RMS amp for fronts and rears; 500W RMS amp for sub Power: Optima Blue Top 1400 Watt Power Inverter

07-25-2003, 12:28 PM	#16 (permalink)
Sac State Contributing Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Piedmont, North Carolina Posts: 828	NCSU-Runner: Are your Dunlop Mud Runner's loud on the pavement/highway? What about rain/wet stability? Thanks __________________ 2003 Sport V8 4x4 Black/GC Borla Dual exhaust, Black Pearl Emblems, aFe intake, Full Husky's, WeatherTech vent visors, OBX pedals, Revo's.

07-25-2003, 07:36 PM	#17 (permalink)
dragr1 Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Auburn, AL Posts: 3,627	Oh yeah, I also briefly owned some Goodyear MTR's, but I sold them right after I got them b/c they are terrible in the mud. They may good in the rocks, I don't know that for sure b/c there are no rocks in Central Alabama, but they are not good in the mud. __________________ 1985 4Runner Dual e-lockers, dual cases, yada yada 1996 4runner, lifted, 2 lockers, 315 KM2's, IFS and more '00 Suburban 2500 4x4 '07 Tacoma Double Cab 4wd TRD '02 Lexus IS300 1991 Tiffin Allegro 31' Class A

07-26-2003, 08:15 AM	#19 (permalink)
4x4Fink Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Centerton, AR Posts: 5,952	BFG's ALL THE WAY!! I have three sets of them(3 vehicle's all with BFG's!) I have one Radial All Terrain set (on my Runner), one BFG M/T on my Silverado, and one A/T KO set on my Dad's 2003 Ram. AWESOME TIRES!!! They have NEVER let me down! And those M/T's!!! NOTHING STOPS THEM!!! Not even a 3 1/2" Decking Screw...I found it jabbed into the sidewall but it only went in a little because of the INCREDIBLE sidewall protection these things have on them!!! BFG M/T's all the way! Well there are my .02! __________________ 1985 4Runner 22RE 4WD "Ratchet" 2007 Tacoma Double Cab SB 4x4 V6 TRD Sport AR-TTORA "My work number is 9-1-1."

07-26-2003, 11:36 AM	#21 (permalink)
NCSU-4runner Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Raleigh NC Posts: 1,597	i just posted some updated pics if you wanna see the tread look at the second one http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.p...threadid=14692 __________________ Jeremy, 94 4Runner Turbo Leaf Spring SAS front - Coilover 4link rear (starts December) / Supra Swap My Truck is featured on Supracharged.com - Home of the original Supra swap and Forum One of two things will happen, I will die, or the truck will be finished. I'm not sure which will be first.

07-26-2003, 04:36 PM	#22 (permalink)
Sac State Contributing Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Piedmont, North Carolina Posts: 828	Nice! You must have been at the coast when those pics were taken? __________________ 2003 Sport V8 4x4 Black/GC Borla Dual exhaust, Black Pearl Emblems, aFe intake, Full Husky's, WeatherTech vent visors, OBX pedals, Revo's.

09-21-2003, 07:06 AM	#24 (permalink)
AznSky Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 2,796	I think you really need to take into concideration how much wheelin you do. Because your mileage greatly depends on that. If you wheel a lot, then of course your tread will detiorate a lot faster than if you just do city and highway driving mostly. I hear everybody saying that the bfg a/t's lasting for at least 40k, but after a few wheelin trips, my bfg a/t's don't look like they'll last for 40k, I hope they do, but I'm not sure So I think you should think about that too and all the responses you get __________________ Rob

09-21-2003, 07:49 AM	#25 (permalink)
Yoter Guest Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,048	I have Wild Country TXRs but also may be in the market to get better tires for mud purposes. My TXRs hold up in the dirt just fine but I have yet to play in the mud due to the dry summer weve had. Anyone have an opinion on TXRs?

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