BFG Mud Terrains Vs. Nitto Mud Grapplers

wcc_71 · 02-11-2008, 11:13 AM

i dont know weater to get BF goodrich mud terrains or nitto mud grapplers any advice?

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Jay351 · 02-11-2008, 11:17 AM

What kind of weather do you experience?
What kind of terrain will you be using them on?

wcc_71 · 02-11-2008, 11:18 AM

just rain. it never snows in south carolina. and mainly just on road

X-AWDriver · 02-11-2008, 11:35 AM

How much off roading will you see?

wcc_71 · 02-11-2008, 11:37 AM

probably not alot

WFO · 02-11-2008, 11:50 AM

Ive heard the Mud grapplers are loud.
I like both of them, The BFGs have proved themselves but the Nittos look cool and from what I hear are pretty good off road.

wcc_71 · 02-11-2008, 11:51 AM

i heard the mud grapplers wear down quick what about the BF goodrichs

Yodaforce · 02-11-2008, 12:00 PM

BFG's are good tires. They have been designed to cancel out harmonics on the highway to reduce the noise. They wear good, and have great traction.
But, I guess since you don't offroad, you are building a "mall crawler" so the Nittos would look good on some dubs eh.

Allstar93088 · 02-11-2008, 12:45 PM

wcc 71 if u live in SC you should know about BUCKSHOT MUDDERS, I live in NC and go to Mrytle Beach and Sumter bout 4-5 times a year. Every 4wd truck i see has buckshot mudders, dont know if u guys down there just get them cheaper or what but they must be decent because alot of people run them. Plus they have a real aggressive look.

Jay351 · 02-11-2008, 12:49 PM

Why not just get a AT tire? The BFG m/t's are not very good in the rain (or snow). Other then that they are a great tire.

Matt16 · 02-11-2008, 12:51 PM

If you don't go off road, then how about an all terrain tire. It will be quieter, get better fuel economy and sounds like it would suit your needs far better than a mud tire. Or is it for looks?

tommy316 · 02-12-2008, 05:08 AM

The grapplers are gona be outrageously priced. Go with the BFG's. If you are looking to save money go with buckshots, they are cheap. If you are gona be going thru mud, dont get all terains. The AT's dont clean out at all and are as useful as some drag slicks here in SC.

tc · 02-12-2008, 06:16 AM

If you're "probably not" gonna do much 'wheeling with it, then why do you need muds? The answer to that is the answer to your question:

looks - the Nitto. Definitely

anything else - the BFG, or better yet an all terrain. Even an "aggressive" AT like the Cooper STT2 or Goodyear MTR will be better than even the BFG on the road.

tiresrus · 02-12-2008, 06:26 AM

I run a tire store here in metter georgia. I have sold Way more nittos than bfgs. The nittos pull awesome and ride the same. The bfgs everybody is used to have changed to the new tread. They are starting to sell more and more though.

Yodaforce · 02-12-2008, 06:37 AM

Buckshots are the absolute noisiest tires made. I think they actually build them to make more noise on purpose. Yes, they are great in mud, but hell, so are tractor tires. He said he does not offroad. I can understand (a little) why someone with a four wheel drive would want the aggressive look of a mud tire. Do you see "full show" 4x4's with big 'ol street tires? NO! And how the hell does a mud tire get worse gas mileage? Rolling resistance? What is that supposed to mean? Who is feeding this crap? C'mon.

wcc_71 · 02-12-2008, 07:44 AM

yeah i will prob just go with the BFG's mud terrains

tc · 02-12-2008, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yodaforce

And how the hell does a mud tire get worse gas mileage? Rolling resistance? What is that supposed to mean? Who is feeding this crap? C'mon.

all the energy to make that noise has to come from somewhere - the louder the tire, the more the rolling resistance (or vice versa, however you want to look at it)

X-AWDriver · 02-12-2008, 01:20 PM

I wouldn't compromise pavement performance and safety just to have a mud tire.

I recommend the Nittos since thye are much better behaved on pavement in the dry or wet than the BFGs and cost a fair amount less and off-road I've never encountered a situation where the BFGs were a clear cut winner but they probably have a slight edge in the dirt but on a DD the Nittos are a solid choice.

tc · 02-12-2008, 03:48 PM

X - are you referring to the mud grappler or the terra grappler? Cuz mud grapplers are pricey and I would hardly consider the mud grappler "pavement friendly"

Matt16 · 02-12-2008, 03:57 PM

I kind of figured anyone who thought about it would figure out that a mud tire is heavier, and has more rolling resistance. Both of those factors will hurt your fuel economy. So before calling it crap, give those neurons a work out.

Or did the Prius hybrid come with a Interco Swamper option I'm not aware of?

Kt426 · 02-21-2009, 03:49 PM

If your not gonna be wheelin alot i'd get all terrains.. ive been contemplating this question for a while now and decided on bfg all terrains. I have them now and will be getting some more soon and they have been good to me on the road but i havent gotten a chance to go offroad yet but im sure they will do just fine if your not going to be doing much wheelin.The bfg mud terrains are definately a good tire but just consider how much you are going to be on the road..The all terrains seem to wear really well, you should consider that if your gonna be on the road alot.. just my opinion.

302Toyota · 03-05-2009, 09:10 PM

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302Toyota · 03-05-2009, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yodaforce

Buckshots are the absolute noisiest tires made. I think they actually build them to make more noise on purpose. Yes, they are great in mud, but hell, so are tractor tires. He said he does not offroad. I can understand (a little) why someone with a four wheel drive would want the aggressive look of a mud tire. Do you see "full show" 4x4's with big 'ol street tires? NO! And how the hell does a mud tire get worse gas mileage? Rolling resistance? What is that supposed to mean? Who is feeding this crap? C'mon.

Are you feeling ok man BUCKSHOTS THE LOUDEST TIRE MADE hahah have you heard boggers, Thornturd ,Mud grapplers any Kind of Interco TSL ....You really think they make the tire to be loud ...haha ....Buckshots suck in the mud Buy you a set of swampers ....Mud tires are heavier the Lugs on the tread cause wind resistance ...take a all terrain just the tire and a TSL Bogger and roll the beside each other and see which one will go farther and smoother the all terrain (Rolling resistance)

X-AWDriver · 03-06-2009, 07:09 AM

This thread is from last year so it might not be relavent now.

02-11-2008, 11:17 AM	#2 (permalink)
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02-11-2008, 12:00 PM	#8 (permalink)
Yodaforce Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: West NC Posts: 284	BFG's are good tires. They have been designed to cancel out harmonics on the highway to reduce the noise. They wear good, and have great traction. But, I guess since you don't offroad, you are building a "mall crawler" so the Nittos would look good on some dubs eh. __________________ "Diverse-Customs" Hot Rods, Street Rods, Custom audio and video installation, sheet metal fabrication, tube work, bumpers, lift kits, just about any kind of custom work imaginable! Visit us at Diverse-Customs.com Last edited by Yodaforce; 02-11-2008 at 12:02 PM.

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Allstar93088 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 139	wcc 71 if u live in SC you should know about BUCKSHOT MUDDERS, I live in NC and go to Mrytle Beach and Sumter bout 4-5 times a year. Every 4wd truck i see has buckshot mudders, dont know if u guys down there just get them cheaper or what but they must be decent because alot of people run them. Plus they have a real aggressive look. __________________ 1995 22re Toyota Pickup -Pro Comp ES 9000 Shocks -31 x 10.50 Firestone AT's -Grant Steering Wheel -Kenwood EQ -Pioneer Head Unit -Sunpro Tach -Magnaflow XL Turbo Muffler -15x8 Steelies -Marlin HD Clutch -Pro Comp Pre Runner Light Bar To go on: 130w Pro Comp Stainless Steel Lights

02-11-2008, 12:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
Jay351 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,635	Why not just get a AT tire? The BFG m/t's are not very good in the rain (or snow). Other then that they are a great tire. __________________ 91 Pickup - xcab - 5sp - 3.0 - SR5 - 4x4 - 250k \|2.25" catback w/ magnaflow cat + glasspack \| Weasy2k cams \| Aisin manual hubs \| Diff breather mod\| Marlin HD clutch \|3" BL \| es3000's \|2" AAL \|1.5" bj spacers \| ISR \| Alpine headunit \| 4" Infinity fronts/5" rears \| 4.88's \|Rear lockright \| 33x12.50" BFG M/T on 15x8" steelies \|Hella 500's \|4" reverse lights\| Grant GT \|idler arm brace\|hella E-codes\| Marlin armor \|SS IFS brace \| %100 Amsoil synthetic http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2572486

02-11-2008, 11:18 AM	#3 (permalink)
wcc_71 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 54	just rain. it never snows in south carolina. and mainly just on road

02-11-2008, 11:37 AM	#5 (permalink)
wcc_71 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 54	probably not alot

02-11-2008, 11:50 AM	#6 (permalink)
WFO Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 496	Ive heard the Mud grapplers are loud. I like both of them, The BFGs have proved themselves but the Nittos look cool and from what I hear are pretty good off road.

02-11-2008, 11:51 AM	#7 (permalink)
wcc_71 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 54	i heard the mud grapplers wear down quick what about the BF goodrichs

02-12-2008, 05:08 AM	#12 (permalink)
tommy316 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lugoff-Elgin SC Posts: 71	The grapplers are gona be outrageously priced. Go with the BFG's. If you are looking to save money go with buckshots, they are cheap. If you are gona be going thru mud, dont get all terains. The AT's dont clean out at all and are as useful as some drag slicks here in SC. __________________ 93 pickup ext cab 3.0 5speed (swapped) 4.56's 31x10.50 Dayton timberline MT's - Custom paint - Lowprofile Cam-locker Toolbox - Front and rear lock rights

02-12-2008, 06:16 AM	#13 (permalink)
tc Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 8,376	If you're "probably not" gonna do much 'wheeling with it, then why do you need muds? The answer to that is the answer to your question: looks - the Nitto. Definitely anything else - the BFG, or better yet an all terrain. Even an "aggressive" AT like the Cooper STT2 or Goodyear MTR will be better than even the BFG on the road. __________________ Check out www.coTTORA.org to hook up with great Toyota 'wheelin' folks! Current - 93 4Runner: 3VZ 33"x10.50" no lift ARB F/R 96 Impala SS: My own personal cop car Previous - 89 2WD Pickup 22R, Fabtech "Ivan Dan" lift, 31x10.50, IASCA World Finals 4th Place Stop with the mods and get on the trail! Pix at www.4wheelingoh.shutterfly.com/action

02-12-2008, 06:26 AM	#14 (permalink)
tiresrus Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 41	I run a tire store here in metter georgia. I have sold Way more nittos than bfgs. The nittos pull awesome and ride the same. The bfgs everybody is used to have changed to the new tread. They are starting to sell more and more though. __________________ 1984 Toyota SR5 pickup 6'' lift 33 14.00 15 Boggers camo factory power windows

02-12-2008, 06:37 AM	#15 (permalink)
Yodaforce Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: West NC Posts: 284	Buckshots are the absolute noisiest tires made. I think they actually build them to make more noise on purpose. Yes, they are great in mud, but hell, so are tractor tires. He said he does not offroad. I can understand (a little) why someone with a four wheel drive would want the aggressive look of a mud tire. Do you see "full show" 4x4's with big 'ol street tires? NO! And how the hell does a mud tire get worse gas mileage? Rolling resistance? What is that supposed to mean? Who is feeding this crap? C'mon. __________________ "Diverse-Customs" Hot Rods, Street Rods, Custom audio and video installation, sheet metal fabrication, tube work, bumpers, lift kits, just about any kind of custom work imaginable! Visit us at Diverse-Customs.com

02-12-2008, 07:44 AM	#16 (permalink)
wcc_71 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 54	yeah i will prob just go with the BFG's mud terrains

02-12-2008, 01:20 PM	#18 (permalink)
X-AWDriver Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton,CO Posts: 10,176	I wouldn't compromise pavement performance and safety just to have a mud tire. I recommend the Nittos since thye are much better behaved on pavement in the dry or wet than the BFGs and cost a fair amount less and off-road I've never encountered a situation where the BFGs were a clear cut winner but they probably have a slight edge in the dirt but on a DD the Nittos are a solid choice. __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander 4wd E-locker,rear diff and deckplate mod * 265/75/16 Nitto TerraGrapplers * Yakima Load Warrior rack * clear corners/signals * Tacoma skidplate * Silverstar lamps/fogs Alpine CDA-9831,Bazooka EL Series 250w amp,MTX 10" sub

02-12-2008, 03:48 PM	#19 (permalink)
tc Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 8,376	X - are you referring to the mud grappler or the terra grappler? Cuz mud grapplers are pricey and I would hardly consider the mud grappler "pavement friendly" __________________ Check out www.coTTORA.org to hook up with great Toyota 'wheelin' folks! Current - 93 4Runner: 3VZ 33"x10.50" no lift ARB F/R 96 Impala SS: My own personal cop car Previous - 89 2WD Pickup 22R, Fabtech "Ivan Dan" lift, 31x10.50, IASCA World Finals 4th Place Stop with the mods and get on the trail! Pix at www.4wheelingoh.shutterfly.com/action

02-21-2009, 03:49 PM	#21 (permalink)
Kt426 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Deering, NH Posts: 11	If your not gonna be wheelin alot i'd get all terrains.. ive been contemplating this question for a while now and decided on bfg all terrains. I have them now and will be getting some more soon and they have been good to me on the road but i havent gotten a chance to go offroad yet but im sure they will do just fine if your not going to be doing much wheelin.The bfg mud terrains are definately a good tire but just consider how much you are going to be on the road..The all terrains seem to wear really well, you should consider that if your gonna be on the road alot.. just my opinion.

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X-AWDriver Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton,CO Posts: 10,176	This thread is from last year so it might not be relavent now. __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander 4wd E-locker,rear diff and deckplate mod * 265/75/16 Nitto TerraGrapplers * Yakima Load Warrior rack * clear corners/signals * Tacoma skidplate * Silverstar lamps/fogs Alpine CDA-9831,Bazooka EL Series 250w amp,MTX 10" sub

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