BF Goodrich A/T and GoodYear Wrangler MT/R's...SOooo sick of these pieces of crap

Alpine114 · 06-10-2005, 12:25 PM

I have a set of Crap 265/75/16 Firestone Steeltex A/T that came with my runner when i bought it brand new, so i left them on until i could muster up some money to pick up some real tires. They are terrible, i live in a college town and there are redlights at the top of every hill. When it rains, my back end sits and spins while i try to get through the redlight....worst thing ever. I do a little bit of off roading, and its mostly mucky thick mud, so im looking for a decently aggressive tire, but also one that wont wear too quickly...thoughts on both....and how much you like them....thanks in advance

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rimpainter.com · 06-10-2005, 12:30 PM

As soon as these tires wear out (that came with my rig) I am getting BFG KO's. I had them on my Taco and they were awesome. They never let me down, and I abused them pretty bad. Now, I may have different needs than you. I wheel in the desert a lot and rarely see mud. When I did see mud, the KO's caked the mud on pretty quickly, but did ok.

Let us know what type of wheeling you plan on doing.

Glenn · 06-10-2005, 12:31 PM

Use 4wd when leaving from a stop and shift back to 2wd once you get going again.

X-AWDriver · 06-10-2005, 12:32 PM

I've heard the GY MTRs rock off road and are still a decent on-road tire and are better in the wet than the BFGs. Bamachem has had his a while so he'll give you the straight poop,also Lee just got a set the other day.
Here's lee's new additions:
http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=60839

Alpine114 · 06-10-2005, 12:36 PM

I off road on either my own land which is farm land and woods, which we made trails on. I also have gone through power lines, and places with decent water...on trail rides for camping on tops of the mountains.....kinda describes the extent of my off roading...its just hard to get out with work and all

Glenn.....I have been shifting from 4wd, backto 2wd,...but honestly, i shouldnt have to do that...these tires i have are a 10 ply tire...they are hard as balls, i keep thinkin softer tires will help grab better. I know my runner has a slighty light rear end which adds to the loss of traction, but still.......

BADLNDS · 06-10-2005, 12:37 PM

I know u had a bad experience with firestones...but their destination mt's are really good (lil' bit squirrely on highways). but great off-road! not too loud either.

Heard good stuff too on the Toyo Open Country MT's as well.

-B

95ToyotaPU007 · 06-10-2005, 12:43 PM

try some yokahoma geolanders. heard nothing but good news about them.

FilthyRich · 06-10-2005, 12:54 PM

for the money you can't beat the Nitto Terra Grappler

**4x4Fink** · 06-10-2005, 12:59 PM

I had the BFG's on my 2nd gen for abouut 7 months and I loved them, I live on a dirt road so they saw some pretty tough stuff everyday. The rock here in Arkansas is mostly flint rock, and with my dirt road getting graded every other week or so a lot of sharp piece gets dragged to the top and give a lot of other people problems...not the case with the BFG's. Althought I will say, in the rain they CAN be a little slick, although I have been known for having a lead foot so if you were take it easy on accelerating then you should be OK with them.

I personally have no experience with the MT/R's but Brian (waskillywabbit) has and I'm sure hed be happy to give you advice on them.

Fink

X-AWDriver · 06-10-2005, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FilthyRich

for the money you can't beat the Nitto Terra Grappler

Those will be on my truck shortly since I've heard from Andy (Bama) that they're an ideal DD tire with a nice sidewall and handle mild to intermediate roading very well and I've heard these sentiments from two other guys that have them in my neighborhood.

viperdan · 06-10-2005, 03:57 PM

I just got Kumho venture MTs awesome look and performance (do a google search) and THE BEST PRICE. 104.00 each for 32x11.50s on tire tack

ChaseHeadrick · 06-10-2005, 04:05 PM

I currently have the BFG KO T/A's and they do allright on the road, but they really suck in any kind of loose dirt, mud, sand, and the like. When I can, I'm getting the Toyo Open country M/T's.

lee · 06-10-2005, 04:12 PM

i just got my mt/rs and the number one thing to realize is.. theyre NOISY.

everything else about them (look, feel, traction, etc) is awesome.

Steveh29 · 06-10-2005, 04:56 PM

I swore by my BFG All Terrains. Went through three sets of them before I cautiously tried a set of Yokohama Geolander AT II's. I will never go back to BFG. The Yoko's have MUCH better traction in any situation I've encountered. They don't slip on wet asphalt and are great off road.

Beartracker · 06-10-2005, 05:22 PM

The Yokohoma and Dunlops are hard to beat off road and on road in wet conditions. Do a search and read the reviews on them. You can't beat the price tag on them either! They also look great and wear forever.

Captain_Toyota · 06-10-2005, 05:39 PM

Personally, Im a fan of Bridgestone Dueller ATs. They are great all-around road/mud/snow tires. I had them on my '91 4Runner SR5 and that thing was UNSTOPPABLE in the snow. I often never even needed to use 4-wheel-drive untill the snow was deeper than 6".
If you need a little more aggressive tread pattern, go with a set of Dueller MTs.
Cap'n

dragr1 · 06-10-2005, 06:38 PM

If you're in the mud much stay away from MTR's, they suck in mud. Great for the rocks though.

06-10-2005, 12:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
rimpainter.com Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,797	As soon as these tires wear out (that came with my rig) I am getting BFG KO's. I had them on my Taco and they were awesome. They never let me down, and I abused them pretty bad. Now, I may have different needs than you. I wheel in the desert a lot and rarely see mud. When I did see mud, the KO's caked the mud on pretty quickly, but did ok. Let us know what type of wheeling you plan on doing. __________________ www.rimpainter.com Get your O Gasket Mod Here! My SC'd 4Runner's Profile My YouTube vids

06-10-2005, 12:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
Glenn Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ELN Posts: 1,651	Use 4wd when leaving from a stop and shift back to 2wd once you get going again. __________________ -Glenn-

06-10-2005, 12:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
X-AWDriver Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton,CO Posts: 10,176	I've heard the GY MTRs rock off road and are still a decent on-road tire and are better in the wet than the BFGs. Bamachem has had his a while so he'll give you the straight poop,also Lee just got a set the other day. Here's lee's new additions: http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=60839 __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander 4wd E-locker,rear diff and deckplate mod * 265/75/16 Nitto TerraGrapplers * Yakima Load Warrior rack * clear corners/signals * Tacoma skidplate * Silverstar lamps/fogs Alpine CDA-9831,Bazooka EL Series 250w amp,MTX 10" sub

06-10-2005, 12:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
Alpine114 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 34	I off road on either my own land which is farm land and woods, which we made trails on. I also have gone through power lines, and places with decent water...on trail rides for camping on tops of the mountains.....kinda describes the extent of my off roading...its just hard to get out with work and all Glenn.....I have been shifting from 4wd, backto 2wd,...but honestly, i shouldnt have to do that...these tires i have are a 10 ply tire...they are hard as balls, i keep thinkin softer tires will help grab better. I know my runner has a slighty light rear end which adds to the loss of traction, but still....... __________________ 99' Silver 4Runner, 3.4 V6. 5 SPd Man. SR5, 4x4, 265/75/16 BFG AT KO, Bull Guard, Off road Lights, Hyperwhite Headlamps, Alpine CD Player,Sony 1000watt amp, 2 AudioBahn 12" Subs, K & N Filter,Ams Oil and Filter, Mobil 1 Syn. Gear,Tranny,and Diff. Future MOds: Deck Plate, Clear Corners, 3" Lift, Hood Scoop, TRD CLutch, TRD Catback

06-10-2005, 12:59 PM	#9 (permalink)
4x4Fink Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Centerton, AR Posts: 5,952	I had the BFG's on my 2nd gen for abouut 7 months and I loved them, I live on a dirt road so they saw some pretty tough stuff everyday. The rock here in Arkansas is mostly flint rock, and with my dirt road getting graded every other week or so a lot of sharp piece gets dragged to the top and give a lot of other people problems...not the case with the BFG's. Althought I will say, in the rain they CAN be a little slick, although I have been known for having a lead foot so if you were take it easy on accelerating then you should be OK with them. I personally have no experience with the MT/R's but Brian (waskillywabbit) has and I'm sure hed be happy to give you advice on them. Fink __________________ 1985 4Runner 22RE 4WD "Ratchet" 2007 Tacoma Double Cab SB 4x4 V6 TRD Sport AR-TTORA "My work number is 9-1-1."

06-10-2005, 12:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
BADLNDS Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 199	I know u had a bad experience with firestones...but their destination mt's are really good (lil' bit squirrely on highways). but great off-road! not too loud either. Heard good stuff too on the Toyo Open Country MT's as well. -B

06-10-2005, 12:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
95ToyotaPU007 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Northern New Mexico Posts: 905	try some yokahoma geolanders. heard nothing but good news about them.

06-10-2005, 03:57 PM	#11 (permalink)
viperdan Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 132	I just got Kumho venture MTs awesome look and performance (do a google search) and THE BEST PRICE. 104.00 each for 32x11.50s on tire tack __________________ TOTALLED :( 1989 ext cab 22RE 4x4, 5 speed, manual hubs. Sdori BJ spacers up front \| shackles in the rear \| rancho steering stabalizer \| 32x11.50R15 Kumho Venture MTs SIPED \| K/n drop in air filter \| custom roof rack+sliders in the works.

06-10-2005, 04:05 PM	#12 (permalink)
ChaseHeadrick Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 73	I currently have the BFG KO T/A's and they do allright on the road, but they really suck in any kind of loose dirt, mud, sand, and the like. When I can, I'm getting the Toyo Open country M/T's. __________________ Chase Headrick 1996 LX450 Lockers, OME lift, 285 toyo's, and leather seats! 1985 SR5 xtra cab 3" springs, 2" BL, 35"x13.5" toyo m/t's on 15x10 steelies (more to come!) 1983 Toyota Starlet (DD) 1993 4Runner (sold)

06-10-2005, 04:12 PM	#13 (permalink)
lee Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: boston, ma Posts: 6,756	i just got my mt/rs and the number one thing to realize is.. theyre NOISY. everything else about them (look, feel, traction, etc) is awesome.

06-10-2005, 04:56 PM	#14 (permalink)
Steveh29 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 726	I swore by my BFG All Terrains. Went through three sets of them before I cautiously tried a set of Yokohama Geolander AT II's. I will never go back to BFG. The Yoko's have MUCH better traction in any situation I've encountered. They don't slip on wet asphalt and are great off road. __________________ Steve 1995 4Runner - V6 - 5 Speed Rear ARB, Manual Hubs, Front TruTrac, Marlin Transmission, ARB Front & Sonoran Steel Rear bumpers that have saved my life!!

06-10-2005, 05:22 PM	#15 (permalink)
Beartracker Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 868	The Yokohoma and Dunlops are hard to beat off road and on road in wet conditions. Do a search and read the reviews on them. You can't beat the price tag on them either! They also look great and wear forever. __________________ 2001 Tacoma SR5 4x4 , step side, 2.7 , extended cab, Auto. Mobile 1 syn 5w30 , Valvoline 75-90 syn in front and rear diffs and transfer case. Factory 16" wheels ,31" Wild Country TXR 265/75/R16, Aluminum Betterbuilt bed tool box, CB , 55W Halogen light mounted on tool box for back up, Elbow air box mod, 2 500 Hella running lights, Nissan Clinometers/Altimiter custom mounted on dash with red back lights.Red dome and mapp light.

06-10-2005, 05:39 PM	#16 (permalink)
Captain_Toyota Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 100	Personally, Im a fan of Bridgestone Dueller ATs. They are great all-around road/mud/snow tires. I had them on my '91 4Runner SR5 and that thing was UNSTOPPABLE in the snow. I often never even needed to use 4-wheel-drive untill the snow was deeper than 6". If you need a little more aggressive tread pattern, go with a set of Dueller MTs. Cap'n __________________ All the best stuff is made in Japan.

06-10-2005, 06:38 PM	#17 (permalink)
dragr1 Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Auburn, AL Posts: 3,627	If you're in the mud much stay away from MTR's, they suck in mud. Great for the rocks though. __________________ 1985 4Runner Dual e-lockers, dual cases, yada yada 1996 4runner, lifted, 2 lockers, 315 KM2's, IFS and more '00 Suburban 2500 4x4 '07 Tacoma Double Cab 4wd TRD '02 Lexus IS300 1991 Tiffin Allegro 31' Class A

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