Best Mud Tire for winter?

BIC performance · 09-29-2009, 10:50 AM

I am looking to get some new meats for my 4runner in time for winter/ snow (33's). I am looking for a good MT that is decent to good in snow/ ice as I will be driving up northern BC, Alberta for hunting and xmas. I have read all kinds of reviews online but wondering what tires you guys like for winters and all around wheelin. I am not looking for a full winter/ snow tire, just a MT that preforms well in the snow, rain and muddy trails etc..

I have used BFG MT KM's and they are decent for wheeling and good in deep snow, but not so good on hard pack snow/ ice.

Currently have MTR's and they did surprisingly well last winter, considering they have no siping. They sound like Boggers now as they wear down.

I am thinking of either the Trxus MT's, Cooper STT or Toyo MT's. A freind has the Trxus MT's and they are amazing in the snow and ice, nearly as good as full winters/ snow tires. They are also great for all around wheeling, but are on the soft side and dont last too long and tend to chunk a bit on rocks. I havent heard any personal reviews on the Coopers STT or the Toyos in the snow.

Any opinions?

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Brad. · 09-29-2009, 11:01 AM

http://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/geolandar_ats.aspx

It's all terrain, but they are killer.

brian2sun · 09-29-2009, 11:33 AM

The Cooper Discoverer STTs absolutely rock in the snow. The Trxus M/Ts are amazing, but $$$!. The Toyo's look and perform awesome, but they're pricey too (I do like that they have a 285/70R16 size though (32x11) - perfect if you have a 2-3" lift and don't have gears). Overall for $800 (4), the STTs are tough to beat. I'm getting some in 285/75R16 this winter for my rig.

My Mastercraft M/Ts look cool, but suck in snow and they're ok offroad. No siping, loud as hell on the hwy, and they shake like crazy as they wear down - even though they've been re-balanced twice.

Fo-runna · 09-29-2009, 11:39 AM

I've got Mud Kings and have put about 20k miles on them (not a lot of snow) and they have held up pretty well. The reason I mention these tires is because they accept studs on the edge of the tread pattern. I imagine there is no better way short of chains to get performance in the snow... after all, the rally racers use studs when racing in the snow, usually packed snow.

toyota4x4907 · 09-29-2009, 12:01 PM

Studs dont help in snow...only ice

BIC performance · 10-06-2009, 10:51 PM

I think I have narrowed it down to the Cooper STT and Trxus Mt's, just looking for some more first hand reviews. I will be going with 285/75/16's.

malteserunner · 10-06-2009, 11:29 PM

My Cooper STT's were awesome in the snow. They balanced nicely too, and stayed balanced. Mine weren't very noisy either. They wore a little quicker than I would have liked, but that was the only downfall.

Mstrkage · 10-07-2009, 12:20 AM

treadwrights offer a tire that has the crushed walnut in it. I used the 33x12.5 on my XJ and they were awesome(for a mud tire) on the snow and ice. And they are cheap!

4runnininMT · 10-07-2009, 02:40 AM

i'm currently using STTs in 265/75/16 and they work very well in snow, ...most mud, and just about every other condition but they're not too great on ice. but then again, which ones are? Mstrkage has got the right idea with the crushed walnut tires. those work amazingly well at increasing traction.
as for 285/75 i couldn't tell you if it'd be better than an equally tall and narrow tire(maybe 255/85s?) for winter performance, which is what i've also heard works very well in tricky conditions.

Timbo · 10-07-2009, 02:36 PM

Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ...Plus they look Great....

GodwinAustin · 10-07-2009, 02:38 PM

I would second the STTs - lots of people ran those up in new hampshire where I used to live. Good MTR in the snow.

4rx · 10-07-2009, 09:42 PM

firestone destination m/t is excellent in the snow and rain

it does better in rain than my 35" super swamper. Its pretty close what my super swamper does in snow.

miss my old tires! wish they offer in 35".

turboboost · 10-07-2009, 10:17 PM

Lots of guys up here run STT's. I hear they are amazing in snow and ice.

09-29-2009, 11:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
Brad. Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 95	http://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/geolandar_ats.aspx It's all terrain, but they are killer. __________________ '93 4Runner SR5, 3.0 Auto, 4X4; 140,000 miles Moog rear coils, 31x10.5" Geolander A/T-S Vortex Muffler, ISR mod Hella 500's Alpine HU Infinity Reference Series Speakers JL Audio Amp JL Audio 10" Sub & Custom Ported Box

09-29-2009, 11:33 AM	#3 (permalink)
brian2sun Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Mtns, CA Posts: 506	The Cooper Discoverer STTs absolutely rock in the snow. The Trxus M/Ts are amazing, but $$$!. The Toyo's look and perform awesome, but they're pricey too (I do like that they have a 285/70R16 size though (32x11) - perfect if you have a 2-3" lift and don't have gears). Overall for $800 (4), the STTs are tough to beat. I'm getting some in 285/75R16 this winter for my rig. My Mastercraft M/Ts look cool, but suck in snow and they're ok offroad. No siping, loud as hell on the hwy, and they shake like crazy as they wear down - even though they've been re-balanced twice. __________________ 97 4Runner SR5 3.4L 4x4 305/70R16 Mastercraft M/Ts on black stock 6 spokes 2.5" suspension lift ARB Bullbar ARB rear locker 4.88s Factory wood grain dash My 4th Toyota truck "If guns kill people, then pens write novels."

09-29-2009, 11:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
Fo-runna Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Richmond, Virginia Posts: 172	I've got Mud Kings and have put about 20k miles on them (not a lot of snow) and they have held up pretty well. The reason I mention these tires is because they accept studs on the edge of the tread pattern. I imagine there is no better way short of chains to get performance in the snow... after all, the rally racers use studs when racing in the snow, usually packed snow. __________________ '98 4-runner, 5-speed, 3.4, e-locker & leather. Deckplate, Toytec 3" OME 881/891, Locker mod & 285/75/R16 Mud Kings.

09-29-2009, 12:01 PM	#5 (permalink)
toyota4x4907 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska Posts: 2,336	Studs dont help in snow...only ice __________________ '95 4runner\|22re\|5spd\|130K miles\|ISR\| 2" BL\| 31x10.5 \| CompuStar Auto-start\| two 170mm LightForce\|anti-sway bars removed f/r\|Warn manual hubs\|ADD bypassed\|Diff breather extensions\|XLPerformance muffler '88 4runner\|22re\|5spd\|206K miles\|Sold '93 single cab\|22re\|5spd\|150K miles\|Sold\| Pro IFS

10-06-2009, 10:51 PM	#6 (permalink)
BIC performance Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 85	I think I have narrowed it down to the Cooper STT and Trxus Mt's, just looking for some more first hand reviews. I will be going with 285/75/16's. __________________ Why??? Because I Can !!! My wife knows the difference between a body lift and suspension lift!!!, does yours? 96 4Runner, E-locked, TRD Tundra/ FJ80 coils, Bilstien 5125's, 285/75/16 MTR's. Lots more custom parts coming. 87 Supra 1jz 420 hp Check out my website: www.bicperformance.com

10-06-2009, 11:29 PM	#7 (permalink)
malteserunner Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ca Posts: 520	My Cooper STT's were awesome in the snow. They balanced nicely too, and stayed balanced. Mine weren't very noisy either. They wore a little quicker than I would have liked, but that was the only downfall. __________________ 87 4Runner, 22re, 5 spd, 4.88, ARB rear, Mile Marker PE8000, Downey Header, TG Sliders, 3" BL, Home Fab Front and Rear Bumper, WabFab Bikini Top, Rustoleum OD Green. Build Thread 98 Tacoma Prerunner, 2.7, 340k. 91 4Runner, V6. 5 speed, Pro Comp lift, 33's, Rock Crawlers. Sold. Parting Out- 97 T-100

10-07-2009, 12:20 AM	#8 (permalink)
Mstrkage Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Warrensburg, MO Posts: 35	treadwrights offer a tire that has the crushed walnut in it. I used the 33x12.5 on my XJ and they were awesome(for a mud tire) on the snow and ice. And they are cheap!

10-07-2009, 02:40 AM	#9 (permalink)
4runnininMT Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: MT Posts: 12	i'm currently using STTs in 265/75/16 and they work very well in snow, ...most mud, and just about every other condition but they're not too great on ice. but then again, which ones are? Mstrkage has got the right idea with the crushed walnut tires. those work amazingly well at increasing traction. as for 285/75 i couldn't tell you if it'd be better than an equally tall and narrow tire(maybe 255/85s?) for winter performance, which is what i've also heard works very well in tricky conditions. __________________ 3rd gen 4runner 3.4 manual SR5 sport RR diff lock

10-07-2009, 02:36 PM	#10 (permalink)
Timbo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Asheville NC Posts: 13	Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ...Plus they look Great.... __________________ 1997 4runner SR5 OME Lift 33" MT MTZ Rear ARB Locker On board Air

10-07-2009, 02:38 PM	#11 (permalink)
GodwinAustin Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Eagle County Colorado Posts: 1,149	I would second the STTs - lots of people ran those up in new hampshire where I used to live. Good MTR in the snow. __________________ -Jon Red 88 4runner - 5Spd - 22re

10-07-2009, 09:42 PM	#12 (permalink)
4rx Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada, EH! Posts: 201	firestone destination m/t is excellent in the snow and rain it does better in rain than my 35" super swamper. Its pretty close what my super swamper does in snow. miss my old tires! wish they offer in 35". __________________ 1999 Toyota 4Runner 4x4 5-spd 35x10.50x16 Super Swamper Radial 3" 4Crawler BL 5.29's front/rear Bushwacker fender flares Interior: Eclipse CD5000 head unit Orion 2500d amp Two Orion 15H2 subs in 6 cubes tuned to 40hz Infinity References front/rear speakers Last edited by 4rx; 10-07-2009 at 09:48 PM.

10-07-2009, 10:17 PM	#13 (permalink)
turboboost Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 386	Lots of guys up here run STT's. I hear they are amazing in snow and ice. __________________ 1990 Toyota 4Runner - SR5, 22RE, 5 speed, 35" Mud King XT, a bunch of mods. 1986 Mazda B2000 - 5 speed, carb'd 2.0, the winter beater. 1979 Datsun 280zx - 2 seater, 5 speed, stripped interior, etc. 1998 Nissan Altima - 5 speed, 1981 280zx turbo snowflake rims. 1985 Toyota Pickup - SR5, 22RE, 5 speed, Xtra cab, lifted 2", 35" boggers, etc - Sold 1983 Datsun 280zx - Turbo Intercooled L28ET - Crushed. 1985 Nissan 300zx - 5 speed, race prepped, etc - Crushed. IFS Club #7

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