Sun screen

***Corey*** · 08-03-2008, 11:24 AM

Heading up camping for a one week trip in about a week, and I am in need of a good sun screen.

Elevation will be around 5,000 to 5,500'.
I will not be going in any water up there, as the only water up there is a few small cold lakes, and the White River which starts up there from a glacier, and the water is swift enough to carry you away to your death up there.

So what is a good sun screen to buy that will stay on for several hours if out hiking and sweating some?

Wipes, creams, what do you recommend?
I normally do not use sun screen around the home, as I am not out in the sun that much.

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TOYOTA 1 · 08-03-2008, 11:36 AM

i like this stuff, http://www.walgreens.com/store/produ...sku=sku2991780

works well and you dont get that greasy fealing on your skin.

also real easy to apply.

EWAYota · 08-03-2008, 11:52 AM

During baseball season, we always used bullfrog. Seemed to work well and didn't loose its effect with the amount of sweat we produced. We just made sure to reapply every couple hours.

1985 4Runner · 08-03-2008, 12:05 PM

Second the bullfrog. Good stuff.

***Corey*** · 08-03-2008, 12:13 PM

Cool, I have seen the Bull Frog stuff on TV, and I also like the spray idea:
Coppertone Sport Continuous Spray Breathable Sunscreen
that Toyota 1 posted/

I have a Walgreens just down the road from me, I will have to see what they have there.

**aviator** · 08-03-2008, 02:05 PM

I only ever use banana boat SPF4 but then I tan easily...

Justinvd · 08-03-2008, 02:50 PM

Who uses sun screan? haha i evened it out that day though

TOYOTA 1 · 08-03-2008, 03:50 PM

lol is that where the term "redneck" comes from?

EWAYota · 08-03-2008, 05:47 PM

I could post pics of my back shedding like a snake, but I won't. Got the Bullfrog on a bit too late last weekend during the boat races.

Corey, I'd suggest that whatever you get though that its waterproof/sweatproof. Just that little added bonus.

Godzilla · 08-03-2008, 05:57 PM

Though many claim to be waterproof , it is best to re-apply after excessive perspiration and swimming. Also sprays are ok for conveinence however full coverage may not be totally achieved due it being a mist. Also anything past SPF30 is only approx 1.5% more effective so save your cash. Focus on UVA protection. Most sunscreens will do UVB, however it is important to ensure UVA protection. UVB will damage your epidermis, whereas UVA actually goes right down to your dermis. Both are not DNA friendly.

***Corey*** · 08-04-2008, 01:34 AM

My last bad burn was from a run we went on July of 2002.
The sun was not out much, lots of cloud cover.
But we were up around 4,500', so the UV got through the clouds.

Everyone else noticed I was getting a red forehead, and later that night this was the result.
Blisters, then mass peeling, and light fever.

If I had worn a hat even I would have been protected enough.
The clouds can really fool you, even when you think there is not enough sun to burn you.

**aviator** · 08-04-2008, 01:14 PM

Yeah you have to watch out for those light cloud/hazy days they are actually the worst for bad burns generally speaking.
as for spf I read that even anything over a 15 was potentially more harmful chemically speaking. All you need to use is a lower rating but apply it more often... and personally the more massage applications you can give/recieve the better... imo... heh heh heh...

X-AWDriver · 08-04-2008, 01:32 PM

I like any of the sport type sprays since they are so easy to apply and can be sprayed over thinning hair to protect our sensitive heads.

nc994run · 08-04-2008, 01:35 PM

Neutrogena makes an SPF 70 spray that works well. The main way to get sunscreen to work well is to apply heavily and often (My mom is a dermatologist, so I hear this all the time). The Neutrogena is a good bet and comes in a spray can similar to the Coppertone posted above and is available at any drug store/ supermarket. Being a light skinned ginger (redhead), I swear by this stuff and it has kept me protected (currently working at 6500 feet or so).

X-AWDriver · 08-05-2008, 06:28 AM

Nooooo,not a Ginger!!!!!

dlbrunner · 08-05-2008, 04:45 PM

I tried the spray stuff on my trans NV expedition. Runs out really fast.

Go with the bullfrog.

Also get a new bottle, they do expire.

The only thing with bullfrog, is if you already have a burn, it stings like a WOW, when you apply. I think it has some alcohol base. Could have been the expired bottle though.

08-03-2008, 11:52 AM	#3 (permalink)
EWAYota Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Richland, Washington Posts: 4,597	During baseball season, we always used bullfrog. Seemed to work well and didn't loose its effect with the amount of sweat we produced. We just made sure to reapply every couple hours. __________________ DJ 1994 Pickup 22RE, Engnbldr 261 cam, 5 speed. Tires that go around and around... Preping for SAS...... Originally Posted By Fustercluck "Proof that Gangus did not spontaneously generate....he has relatives." Originally Posted By Tacoclimber "My two year old better get a job, soon..." Reply Posted By Oly884 "I hear coal mining is a great career." Myspace

08-03-2008, 12:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,071	Cool, I have seen the Bull Frog stuff on TV, and I also like the spray idea: Coppertone Sport Continuous Spray Breathable Sunscreen that Toyota 1 posted/ I have a Walgreens just down the road from me, I will have to see what they have there. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser Built for 4wheelin', expedition, camping, and overlanding use PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse Part II ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge Blog About Roof Top Tents ☺ FJC Magazines Online Review Of My Tent ☺ 2009 Specialized Rockhopper Pro

08-03-2008, 02:05 PM	#6 (permalink)
aviator Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: COTKU,Ontario,Canada Posts: 7,469	I only ever use banana boat SPF4 but then I tan easily... __________________ Silver 1994 Hilux Xtra cab 4x4 3.0 K&N cone filter, ported MAF, advanced timing, oversize exhaust, free flow cat, "rumble" muffler custom covered SR5 seats, map lights, factory AC tv4184 style black interior conversion started mods to come... header, custom centre console, stereo upgrade tinted windows Founding member 1972TLC fan club - Get well soon Mary Toyota Hilux... Get in or Get out of the way.

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08-03-2008, 05:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
EWAYota Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Richland, Washington Posts: 4,597	I could post pics of my back shedding like a snake, but I won't. Got the Bullfrog on a bit too late last weekend during the boat races. Corey, I'd suggest that whatever you get though that its waterproof/sweatproof. Just that little added bonus. __________________ DJ 1994 Pickup 22RE, Engnbldr 261 cam, 5 speed. Tires that go around and around... Preping for SAS...... Originally Posted By Fustercluck "Proof that Gangus did not spontaneously generate....he has relatives." Originally Posted By Tacoclimber "My two year old better get a job, soon..." Reply Posted By Oly884 "I hear coal mining is a great career." Myspace

08-03-2008, 05:57 PM	#10 (permalink)
Godzilla Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 2,151	Though many claim to be waterproof , it is best to re-apply after excessive perspiration and swimming. Also sprays are ok for conveinence however full coverage may not be totally achieved due it being a mist. Also anything past SPF30 is only approx 1.5% more effective so save your cash. Focus on UVA protection. Most sunscreens will do UVB, however it is important to ensure UVA protection. UVB will damage your epidermis, whereas UVA actually goes right down to your dermis. Both are not DNA friendly.

08-04-2008, 01:34 AM	#11 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,071	My last bad burn was from a run we went on July of 2002. The sun was not out much, lots of cloud cover. But we were up around 4,500', so the UV got through the clouds. Everyone else noticed I was getting a red forehead, and later that night this was the result. Blisters, then mass peeling, and light fever. If I had worn a hat even I would have been protected enough. The clouds can really fool you, even when you think there is not enough sun to burn you. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser Built for 4wheelin', expedition, camping, and overlanding use PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse Part II ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge Blog About Roof Top Tents ☺ FJC Magazines Online Review Of My Tent ☺ 2009 Specialized Rockhopper Pro

08-04-2008, 01:14 PM	#12 (permalink)
aviator Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: COTKU,Ontario,Canada Posts: 7,469	Yeah you have to watch out for those light cloud/hazy days they are actually the worst for bad burns generally speaking. as for spf I read that even anything over a 15 was potentially more harmful chemically speaking. All you need to use is a lower rating but apply it more often... and personally the more massage applications you can give/recieve the better... imo... heh heh heh... __________________ Silver 1994 Hilux Xtra cab 4x4 3.0 K&N cone filter, ported MAF, advanced timing, oversize exhaust, free flow cat, "rumble" muffler custom covered SR5 seats, map lights, factory AC tv4184 style black interior conversion started mods to come... header, custom centre console, stereo upgrade tinted windows Founding member 1972TLC fan club - Get well soon Mary Toyota Hilux... Get in or Get out of the way.

08-04-2008, 01:32 PM	#13 (permalink)
X-AWDriver Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton,CO Posts: 10,174	I like any of the sport type sprays since they are so easy to apply and can be sprayed over thinning hair to protect our sensitive heads. __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander 4wd E-locker,rear diff and deckplate mod * 265/75/16 Nitto TerraGrapplers * Yakima Load Warrior rack * clear corners/signals * Tacoma skidplate * Silverstar lamps/fogs Alpine CDA-9831,Bazooka EL Series 250w amp,MTX 10" sub

08-04-2008, 01:35 PM	#14 (permalink)
nc994run Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: blacksburg,va for school chapel hill, nc for home Posts: 981	Neutrogena makes an SPF 70 spray that works well. The main way to get sunscreen to work well is to apply heavily and often (My mom is a dermatologist, so I hear this all the time). The Neutrogena is a good bet and comes in a spray can similar to the Coppertone posted above and is available at any drug store/ supermarket. Being a light skinned ginger (redhead), I swear by this stuff and it has kept me protected (currently working at 6500 feet or so). __________________ Rob 1999 4Runner Limited 4x4, retrofitted e-locker/ ARB front locker with 4.88 Precision Gears, Tundra/LC lift, 2" 4Crawler BL, Nitto Mud Grappler 35's on 16x8, Marlin sliders, TJM T-15, Warn M8000 w/ synthetic line, Mad Mike's custom rear Bumper, deckplate and ISR mods, Vortex Muffler, custom made tube doors pictures here I support Banned Neliconcept

08-05-2008, 06:28 AM	#15 (permalink)
X-AWDriver Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton,CO Posts: 10,174	Nooooo,not a Ginger!!!!! __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander 4wd E-locker,rear diff and deckplate mod * 265/75/16 Nitto TerraGrapplers * Yakima Load Warrior rack * clear corners/signals * Tacoma skidplate * Silverstar lamps/fogs Alpine CDA-9831,Bazooka EL Series 250w amp,MTX 10" sub

08-05-2008, 04:45 PM	#16 (permalink)
dlbrunner Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: phoenix Posts: 1,141	I tried the spray stuff on my trans NV expedition. Runs out really fast. Go with the bullfrog. Also get a new bottle, they do expire. The only thing with bullfrog, is if you already have a burn, it stings like a WOW, when you apply. I think it has some alcohol base. Could have been the expired bottle though. __________________ Duncan -------------------------------------------------- Current: 95 4X4 SR5 V6, Yakima tracks/rack installed. Aisin hubs. Sonoran Steel IFS Truss. Cobra CB(finally!) Desired: 66 FJ45 shorty EX's: 89 4X4 V6 Downey'd 72 FJ40 W 350/SM465 powertrax, "Billy"

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